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God Justifies the ungodly :Rom 4: 5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. That Justifieth the ungodly ! This speaks volumes to the matchless Love and Grace of God. Even when or while His elect were in the height of their ungodliness He justified them.. Now how does God do this ? Rom 5:10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.Now here some may say but ahy, this says He reconciled us by the death of His son and not justifieth ! But was is Justification but reconciliation..The word reconciliation is the greek word katallaso meaning,to change, exchange, as coins for others of equivalent valuea) to reconcile (those who are at variance)
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Return to favor with, be reconciled to onec) to receive one into favor Now what is Justification but being made right with God restored to His favor. ? The Greek word for justification is diakio meaning : ) to render righteous or such he ought to be2) to show, exhibit, evince, one to be righteous, such as he is and wishes himself to be considered3) to declare, pronounce, one to be just, righteous, or such as he ought to be The meaning of justification therefore is being brought back into the favor of God and on top of that being pronounced righteous !! Again how was this accomplished? Was it by our faith ? Was it by our repentance ? I say not but by the obedience of death , the death of the Lord Jesus Christ..Rom 5: 19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous that is Justified so , the elect as they were reconciled by the death of Christ , that is, his obedience unto death [ phil 2: 8] they were made righteous , that is declared or pronounced by God to be righteous , they were justified.. This truth was spoken of by the prophet Isaiah in 53: 11He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. What does the prophet mean by his knowledge shall my righteous servant shall justify many?The answer, John 10: 14 :I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. that’s right by his knowledge of the sheep , all those given him by the father in the covenant of grace, He shall bear their iniquities. Does not that agree with Christ declaration in Jn 10: 15As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep., that is I will bear their iniquitiesAmen all the sheep have been reconciled , justified , made righteous , How , by the death of His Son..In Time , at His appointed time , each elect person or sheep , who has been justified , has been reconciled , who has had their sins forgiven , God The Holy Spirit through the new birth gives the elect sheep faith to believe on Christ and to come into the experiential knowledge of their justification they have in Christ , this knowledge comes by way of the gospel the word of truth.Eph 1:In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise,That’s right they heard by having been given ears to hear, they heard the good news of their salvation….amen, so you see faith does not produce salvation but receives it and the assurance of it to the Glory f God…Believe on Him that Justifieth the ungodly…and thou shalt be saved….
 

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God Justifies the ungodly :Rom 4: 5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. That Justifieth the ungodly ! This speaks volumes to the matchless Love and Grace of God. Even when or while His elect were in the height of their ungodliness He justified them.. Now how does God do this ? Rom 5:10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.Now here some may say but ahy, this says He reconciled us by the death of His son and not justifieth ! But was is Justification but reconciliation..The word reconciliation is the greek word katallaso meaning,to change, exchange, as coins for others of equivalent valuea) to reconcile (those who are at variance)
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Return to favor with, be reconciled to onec) to receive one into favor Now what is Justification but being made right with God restored to His favor. ? The Greek word for justification is diakio meaning : ) to render righteous or such he ought to be2) to show, exhibit, evince, one to be righteous, such as he is and wishes himself to be considered3) to declare, pronounce, one to be just, righteous, or such as he ought to be The meaning of justification therefore is being brought back into the favor of God and on top of that being pronounced righteous !! Again how was this accomplished? Was it by our faith ? Was it by our repentance ? I say not but by the obedience of death , the death of the Lord Jesus Christ..Rom 5: 19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous that is Justified so , the elect as they were reconciled by the death of Christ , that is, his obedience unto death [ phil 2: 8] they were made righteous , that is declared or pronounced by God to be righteous , they were justified.. This truth was spoken of by the prophet Isaiah in 53: 11He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. What does the prophet mean by his knowledge shall my righteous servant shall justify many?The answer, John 10: 14 :I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. that’s right by his knowledge of the sheep , all those given him by the father in the covenant of grace, He shall bear their iniquities. Does not that agree with Christ declaration in Jn 10: 15As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep., that is I will bear their iniquitiesAmen all the sheep have been reconciled , justified , made righteous , How , by the death of His Son..In Time , at His appointed time , each elect person or sheep , who has been justified , has been reconciled , who has had their sins forgiven , God The Holy Spirit through the new birth gives the elect sheep faith to believe on Christ and to come into the experiential knowledge of their justification they have in Christ , this knowledge comes by way of the gospel the word of truth.Eph 1:In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise,That’s right they heard by having been given ears to hear, they heard the good news of their salvation….amen, so you see faith does not produce salvation but receives it and the assurance of it to the Glory f God…Believe on Him that Justifieth the ungodly…and thou shalt be saved….
Not all we be saved ultimately for eternal life. John 3:16. Yet it is true that God does justify the ungodly according to scripture. And yet, how can anyone's life on this earth be justified? The Good News.Romans 3:23, 24, REB. Seven truths here seem very clear for ALL humanity:.... "All ... sinned." That included you and me..... The same "all are justified." .... And they are "justified freely" (we pay nothing, we merit nothing)..... It's by grace (that means free to all undeserving people, without exception). .... And it's not only by grace, it's by grace "alone." .... The "act of liberation" is for all, because.... It's "in the person of Christ Jesus," "the Savior of the world." God does NOT make a distinction between the believer and nonbeliever regarding reconciliation. "To wit, that God was IN CHRIST, reconciling the WORLD unto Himself, NOT imputing their trespasses unto them", all have been reconciled unto God, and our mission is "the word of reconciliation" to the world. Why does He reconcile everyone to Himself, because "God so loved the world." The believer is to share such wonderful truth. The lost will be lost because they have decided not to be reconciled to God. You stated, The Greek word for justification is diakio. Actually, the word justified in Romans 5:18 is different in the Greek, (dikaiōsis), which means acquittal. The human race is marked for righteousness and the believer is made righteous. For whom is this acquittal given to? As the condemnation came upon all, so the justification comes upon all. Christ has tasted death for every man. He has given Himself for ALL. Yet, sadly, many will throw away their birthright possession. May we sound the Good News! Jake
 

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Not all we be saved ultimately for eternal life. John 3:16. Yet it is true that God does justify the ungodly according to scripture. And yet, how can anyone's life on this earth be justified? The Good News.Romans 3:23, 24, REB. Seven truths here seem very clear for ALL humanity:.... "All ... sinned." That included you and me..... The same "all are justified." .... And they are "justified freely" (we pay nothing, we merit nothing)..... It's by grace (that means free to all undeserving people, without exception). .... And it's not only by grace, it's by grace "alone." .... The "act of liberation" is for all, because.... It's "in the person of Christ Jesus," "the Savior of the world." God does NOT make a distinction between the believer and nonbeliever regarding reconciliation. "To wit, that God was IN CHRIST, reconciling the WORLD unto Himself, NOT imputing their trespasses unto them", all have been reconciled unto God, and our mission is "the word of reconciliation" to the world. Why does He reconcile everyone to Himself, because "God so loved the world." The believer is to share such wonderful truth. The lost will be lost because they have decided not to be reconciled to God. You stated, The Greek word for justification is diakio. Actually, the word justified in Romans 5:18 is different in the Greek, (dikaiōsis), which means acquittal. The human race is marked for righteousness and the believer is made righteous. For whom is this acquittal given to? As the condemnation came upon all, so the justification comes upon all. Christ has tasted death for every man. He has given Himself for ALL. Yet, sadly, many will throw away their birthright possession. May we sound the Good News! Jake
all the elect have been justified declared not guilt and declared righteous soley by the death of the Gods Son...Thats the bible...but all men are not elected only some...the bible..
 

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all the elect have been justified declared not guilt and declared righteous soley by the death of the Gods Son...Thats the bible...but all men are not elected only some...the bible..
Trying to understand your position - is it your belief that the Bible teaches that God only desires some (the elect) to be saved? And if a person were not one of the elect that God has chosen, they would not be saved?If so, how do you explain this verse (1Tim 2:4) which clearly states it is God's desiere that ALL be saved:This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
 

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Trying to understand your position - is it your belief that the Bible teaches that God only desires some (the elect) to be saved? And if a person were not one of the elect that God has chosen, they would not be saved?If so, how do you explain this verse (1Tim 2:4) which clearly states it is God's desiere that ALL be saved:This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Hi,Yes, that is his position, only "some" can be saved and come to repentance. This teaching has brought more sorrow and heartache to more "sincere" Christians than any other.When one who teaches such and witnesses to another, there can only be this conclusion. "Hi, I am the 'elect' of God and am saved. You may or may not be one of them. You can accept Christ Jesus as your personal Saviour, but you really do not have the free will to do so. And if you're lucky you'll be the elect and be in heaven, but you will never "really" know until judgment day. But I know I'm one of the saved because I "feel it" to be so through my own subjective experience, but the cross of Christ is limited to me and perhaps some others, you may or may not be one of them. Good Luck!"What a hideous and deceptive teaching, contrary to God's unconditional love. A teaching from the depths of hell. ... I rebuke that teaching in the name of Christ Jesus. Matthew 23. It is one thing to teach "error" it's another to exclude a fellow human being from God's love. God, have mercy on our pathetic self absorbing, pharisee-like souls.
 

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May I add the fact of this...John 4:42 - And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.I John 4:14 - And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.II Peter 3:9 - The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.JagLovest ye in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
 

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May I add the fact of this...John 4:42 - And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.I John 4:14 - And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.II Peter 3:9 - The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.JagLovest ye in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
Well stated Jag, I know I came across "strongly," yet, so be it if I'm kicked off the site, there comes a point when some seem to delight in letting people know that they are not loved by God and "I, I, I, I, I, I, I am. This was the teaching of the religious leaders of Christ's day, and He had few "kind" words for them. He must have been in anguish of heart when rebuking them. I feel the same kind of thing, yet surely much much less than our loving Saviour who had "perfect love." " ... whoso shall offend [entrap] one of these little ones which believe in Me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." Matt. 18:6. Jake
 

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May I add the fact of this...John 4:42 - And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.I John 4:14 - And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.II Peter 3:9 - The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.Jag Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
Well stated Jag, I know I came across "strongly," yet, so be it if I'm kicked off the site, there comes a point when some seem to delight in letting people know that they are not loved by God and "I, I, I, I, I, I, I am. This was the teaching of the religious leaders of Christ's day, and He had few "kind" words for them. He must have been in anguish of heart when rebuking them. I feel the same kind of thing, yet surely much much less than our loving Saviour who had "perfect love." " ... whoso shall offend [entrap] one of these little ones which believe in Me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." Matt. 18:6. JakeSince some people thinks God wants to save some, but not all...It makes their faith being in vain. So let's not make the Lord who died on the cross for everyone, even the Kenites (sons of Cain) becomes in vain. Not a good idea. So let's not take the back gate ok? (John 10:1)JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
 

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May I add the fact of this...John 4:42 - And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.I John 4:14 - And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.II Peter 3:9 - The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.JagLovest ye in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
Great verses Jag!
 

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Since some people thinks God wants to save some, but not all...It makes their faith being in vain. So let's not make the Lord who died on the cross for everyone, even the Kenites (sons of Cain) becomes in vain. Not a good idea. So let's not take the back gate ok? (John 10:1)JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
Jag,I chuckled a little bit, sorry, not at you precious child of God, but still don't understand the "Kenite Theory," ... For my flesh is no different and Christ will save any Kenite that says "Yes" to Christ. Oh well. Even I am a Kenite at heart. Of course, perhaps there were Kenites that accepted Christ, even to this day? Or have I missed the point of "your" understanding regarding the matter? For example, was Judas in the line of the Kenites? Can any Kenite be saved, if so, why the "Kenite" factor, and its significance? Is it a "community consensus " teaching" or something that has great impact for those who are Kenites. Does it become more difficult for them to accept Christ? Does that mean it becomes more easy for others to accept Christ if your not a Kenite? Just trying to figure it out. Jake
 

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Since some people thinks God wants to save some, but not all...It makes their faith being in vain. So let's not make the Lord who died on the cross for everyone, even the Kenites (sons of Cain) becomes in vain. Not a good idea. So let's not take the back gate ok? (John 10:1)JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
Jag,I chuckled a little bit, sorry, not at you precious child of God, but still don't understand the "Kenite Theory," ... For my flesh is no different and Christ will save any Kenite that says "Yes" to Christ. Oh well. Even I am a Kenite at heart. Of course, perhaps there were Kenites that accepted Christ, even to this day? Or have I missed the point of "your" understanding regarding the matter?For example, was Judas in the line of the Kenites? Can any Kenite be saved, if so, why the "Kenite" factor, and its significance? Is it a "community consensus " teaching" or something that has great impact for those who are Kenites. Does it become more difficult for them to accept Christ? Does that mean it becomes more easy for others to accept Christ if your not a Kenite?Just trying to figure it out.JakeOK, the Kenites are indeed the sons of Cain. Cain's father is Satan (Genesis 3:15) and not Adam like Eve says that it belongs to the Lord (Genesis 4:1) Eve had sex with Satan (Genesis 3:6, Genesis 3:13, II Corinthians 11:3) (giving birth to Cain) before she had sex with Adam (Genesis 4:1-2)The Kenites (which are the sons of Cain) are the ones that crucified Christ at the cross. And yes the Kenites existed after the flood too. Since Satan's offsprings are flesh like we are, they have the right too to accept Christ as Lord and Saviour of their lives. The only one not save is Satan himself so far (Ezekiel 28:18, John 17:12) God is fair.
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So in short Cain is Satan's childWhile Abel is Adam & Eve child.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
 

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1 Adam lay with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, "With the help of the LORD I have brought forth a man." genesis 4:1oops think I just killed the seed theory....................
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1 Adam lay with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, "With the help of the LORD I have brought forth a man." genesis 4:1oops think I just killed the seed theory....................
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Dear Ryan...not exactly. Eve was saying that on Genesis 4:1. Is Eve God?The LORD was saying that "thy seed and her seed" at Genesis 3:15.Once again. Is Eve God? or Is the LORD God?JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
 

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Dear Ryan...not exactly. Eve was saying that on Genesis 4:1. Is Eve God?The LORD was saying that "thy seed and her seed" at Genesis 3:15.Once again. Is Eve God? or Is the LORD God?JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
But if Eve were lying, why wouldn't God have rebuked her? Also, do you believe that there is an entire catagory of people alive today who are Kenites? Do you believe there is any way to know if a person is a "kenite?" Do they look different - act different? Also, you see they killed Jesus - where are they called "kenite" by name in the NT?
 

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OK, the Kenites are indeed the sons of Cain. Cain's father is Satan (Genesis 3:15) and not Adam like Eve says that it belongs to the Lord (Genesis 4:1) Eve had sex with Satan (Genesis 3:6, Genesis 3:13, II Corinthians 11:3) (giving birth to Cain) before she had sex with Adam (Genesis 4:1-2)The Kenites (which are the sons of Cain) are the ones that crucified Christ at the cross. And yes the Kenites existed after the flood too. Since Satan's offsprings are flesh like we are, they have the right too to accept Christ as Lord and Saviour of their lives. The only one not save is Satan himself so far (Ezekiel 28:18, John 17:12) God is fair.
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So in short Cain is Satan's childWhile Abel is Adam & Eve child.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
Since I believe the earth, according to the creation concept, has been around for 6000 years, can anyone "white" or very light in skin color possibly be the descendent's of Cain? Who are the Kenites? Can we recognize them by certain traits of characteristics, skin color, race, or nationality? Can anyone prove within their own lineage after 6000 years where their "roots" are from? Do we say that the Kenites are darker in color than others? Or are Kenites lighter skinned than others? Did they ever leave the middle east? Did anyone else mingle, infuse, procreate with them? Since the majority of this planet have darker skinned people, do they now have to "wonder" that they "may" have some "Kenite" blood in them? Can we really speak intelligently on this question after thousands of years? Who sets the scale to determine such distinction? Did the slaves bring over the "Kenite" factor? Did the Europeans bring over the Kenite factor? Did the Europeans ever mingle with the Kenites? Did the sons of Cain ever "hook up" with Asia Minor? Did Moses marry a Kenite? Yes. She is from the line of the Kenites. Was she a servant of Satan? Since I am white, does that eliminate me from being a Kenite? If I were very dark in color does that "possibly" mean I'm a Kenite? Could you be a Kenite, or have you separated yourself from such an idea? Just curious? Full honesty is intended. blessings in Christ to you, a sinner saved by grace,Jake
 

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Dear Ryan...not exactly. Eve was saying that on Genesis 4:1. Is Eve God?The LORD was saying that "thy seed and her seed" at Genesis 3:15.Once again. Is Eve God? or Is the LORD God?JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
Get out of here with all these myths and lies dude or what ever you are..just changing scripture to fit your diabolical teachings..:naughty:
 

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Trying to understand your position - is it your belief that the Bible teaches that God only desires some (the elect) to be saved? And if a person were not one of the elect that God has chosen, they would not be saved?
exactly..those not chosen by God have no chance nor choice to be saved...
If so, how do you explain this verse (1Tim 2:4) which clearly states it is God's desiere that ALL be saved:This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
The all men He desires to be saved consiously are those who are of the new covenent, that is the election of grace the spiritual Israel and Judah their salvation has been promised by the blood of christ the blood of the covenantNotice what paul says in vs 5 6 5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. Now notice that Christ is designated a mediator..This is because he is the mediator of the new covenent..heb 8:6But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. 7For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. 8For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: 9Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. 10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: 11And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. 12For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. 13In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.Now as mediator of this new covenant or testament notice who are the recipiants vs 88For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Thats basically saying the elect the chosen people , for Israel was a type of the election of grace..also this tells us that the new covenant blessings in which christ is mediator is resrticted to a particular group of people...the house of israel the house of judah..Jesus blood shed was in pursuance of the fulfillment of the covenent..notice matt 26: 28For this is my blood of the new testament,[ or covenent] which is shed for many[ the house of israe] for the remission of sins. for the remission of sins..now notice one of the new covenent blessings is heb 8:12For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. The same thing forgiveness of sins..also paul says in 1 tim that God desires that they will come to the knowledge of the truth..that is spiritual knowledge and look at another new covenent blessing heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. spiritual knowledge is promised in the covenant and notice from the least to the greatest meaning people of different rank in society and thats in agreement with the passag in timothy look at1 tim 21I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. So actually paul is saying pray for the salvation of Gods elect , his chosen people who may be kings men and women in leadership and all that are concerned in the covenant which christ is mediator of..paul even says in a second letter to the same recipient 2 tim 2Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.If one studys scripture and by the blessing of God truth may be discovered and a perfect symmetry of the same...
 

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Hi,Yes, that is his position, only "some" can be saved and come to repentance. This teaching has brought more sorrow and heartache to more "sincere" Christians than any other.When one who teaches such and witnesses to another, there can only be this conclusion. "Hi, I am the 'elect' of God and am saved. You may or may not be one of them. You can accept Christ Jesus as your personal Saviour, but you really do not have the free will to do so. And if you're lucky you'll be the elect and be in heaven, but you will never "really" know until judgment day. But I know I'm one of the saved because I "feel it" to be so through my own subjective experience, but the cross of Christ is limited to me and perhaps some others, you may or may not be one of them. Good Luck!"
You show your ignorance and immaturity.. A gospel witness is merely explaining the facts of the gospel that is who christ is what he has accomplished on the cross, for whom he accomlished it for, and why.. all that rubbish you saying is none sense the whole witness conversation is about christ and his accomlishments via the cross..
 
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Dear Ryan...not exactly. Eve was saying that on Genesis 4:1. Is Eve God?The LORD was saying that "thy seed and her seed" at Genesis 3:15.Once again. Is Eve God? or Is the LORD God?JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
It's not because Eve said it, it's because all babies are gifts from God. But take note how the order of Births take place. The Serpent has Sex With Eve First, so it makes since Cain comes Out. Adam sleeps with her Second, Abel Comes out. The Serpent and Adam had sex with eve the Same Day.Psalm 127:3 "Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward."It was all part of God's Plan.
 
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