Is The World Getting Better?

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blessedhope

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I'm A pre-Trib person and looking for the blessed Hope. But It seem some Christians that say thing will be getting better >your thoughts?
 

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Its not supposed to get better. Don't know why you even entertain such notions when scripture states the exact opposite. Good luck with the pre tribulation belief. Looking forward to you still being here when Apollyon, the beast from the pit starts wrecking havoc. At that point the pre tribulation foolishness will go right in the dumpster where it belongs.
 
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Not since its inception :).... Imo, morality is at an all time low.
 

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Dan57 said:
Not since its inception :).... Imo, morality is at an all time low.
You're gonna look up one day and find yourself living in the Land of Canaan, and yes I'm not making that comparison lightly. There will be child sacrifice or infanticide done under the guise of "abortion", bestiality and pedophilia will be legal, and what we call porn today will be a common occurrence on HBO and AMC. Society will be so debased that it will make it easy for Apollyon to just roll all over us, as there will be nothing left to fight for seeing the family unit is almost completely destroyed as it is.
 

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No it isn't getting better. I've seen the mark of the beast on a few people already. The time is coming and the occult faith is that faith of the beast.
 

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This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was.
10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. (2 Timothy 3)
 

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[SIZE=11pt]2 Timothy 3:1-17 Remember, the final age of this world is to be a time of turmoil! People will love nothing but self and money, they will be boastful, arrogant and abusive. Disobedient to parents, devoid of gratitude, piety and natural affection. They will be uncontrolled in their violence, hating all goodness, perfidious, foolhardy and self important. They will love their pleasures more than their God. While preserving the outward form of religion, actually, they deny its power. Have nothing to do with them.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] Persecution will indeed come to everyone who wants to lead a godly life as a follower of Christ Jesus,[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt] while evil doers and imposters will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. But for your part, stand by the truths you have learned and are assured of, because you are familiar with the Holy scriptures which have the power to make you wise and lead you into salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] All inspired scripture has its use for teaching the truth, refuting error and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be capable and equipped for good works of every kind.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]2 Timothy 4:1-5 Before God and before Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, I charge you solemnly by His coming appearing and Millennial reign – to proclaim the gospel, press it home, in season and out of season, use argument, reproof and encouragement with all the patience that teaching requires.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] For the time will come when people will not stand sound teaching, but each will follow his own ideas and will gather crowds to hear whatever they fancy. They will stop their ears to the truth and turn aside to myths[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt]. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] But, you must keep your head whatever happens; put up with hardship, work to spread the gospel and discharge all the duties of your calling.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]1 Timothy 1:3-11 I asked you, Timothy, to instruct certain people to refrain from teaching erroneous doctrines and devoting themselves to interminable myths and fruitless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculations that do nothing to further God’s plan for humans, that works through faith in Him. The goal of this Command is love, which comes from a pure heart, a good conscience and a genuine faith. Through a lack of these attributes, some have gone astray into a plethora of theories and false notions. They set out to be teachers of the Law, but they do not know what they are talking about or the true meaning of the Word. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]We all know the Law is a good thing, if it is used properly, it’s there not just for the righteous, but is necessary for the lawless and sinful, the godless and worldly, the murderers and fornicators, perverts, liars, perjurers, in fact all whose behaviour flouts the glorious Gospel of God. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=11pt]‘The end of this era, will be a time of turmoil’, Paul may be referring to the Tribulation period, but we have for the last 100 years experienced many wars and disasters. Matt. 24:6-8[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]‘Persecution will come to everyone who follows Jesus’, This totally refutes any ‘pre-wrath rapture’. 1 Peter 4:12 However, righteous Israel will be taken to a place of safety during the Great Tribulation. Rev. 12:14[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]‘While preserving the outward form of religion, they deny its power’. Many, so called Christian Churches have deviated so far from the true Gospel, they are no longer a Church of God. Isaiah 58, Jude 1-25, Rev. 3:14-22[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]‘The time has come when people refuse sound teaching’, they ignore, allegorise or place Bible prophecy into past history, so have no proper understanding of what will happen soon. Isaiah:29:13-14, Isaiah 30:8-11[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]‘False teachers are more prevalent than ever, promoting their erroneous doctrines.’ Ministries, TV shows, books, etc, on the end times are a big business. Their judgement comes, false teachers will all meet their end on the Day of wrath. Jer.14:13-16, Isaiah 56:9-12 [/SIZE]
 

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Shalom, all.

This doom-and-gloom attitude is really the wrong way a Christian should be thinking. I would suggest that you turn it around and look at the end first. While this world WITHOUT the Master Yeshua` is on a downward spiral, first look at eternity and the New Earth with the capital city, the New Jerusalem. Then, back up to the 1000 years prior to the New Earth's re-creation, and get a good picture of what the world will look like when a "wiser than Solomon" is ruling over Israel and its tributaries. THEN, come back to the mere 7 years (or 3.5 years) of problems (if you believe in that sort of thing). Eternity > 1000 years > 3.5 years. So, bring your perspective back to the time periods coming up that matter!
 

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Unfortunately, Retro, at this point in time, we are so close to the Day the Lord will take action, Isaiah 42:15, to be unaware of what over 100 Bible prophesies tell us will happen, as the Lord has planned, is sheer foolishness.
I too, look forward to the glorious time of the Millennium and then eternity with God on earth, Revelation 21:1-4, but much has to take place before that time.
 
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The crisis to come will be a time of deception. Nothing will be as it appears. Only to those walking in the Spirit, will the truth be revealed. The vast majority, (I am speaking of those who claim to be religious/Christian) will be united under the world super-church with the Pope as their head, moral laws upholding Catholic dogma being legislated, the 'fanatics' or the religious zealots/fundamentalists (those who actually believe in the scriptures) will be either dead, on the run, or in jail, and all the world will be 'wondering' (worshiping) after the beast crying "peace and safety". All will look rosy and the future secure. All the nations will be united under one head, the Pope, the one religion will be governing all and the only spanners clogging up the spokes of the otherwise smoothly rotating wheels of the last hours of human history will be a few nuisance loud-mouthed preachers who insist that the laws of man do not countermand the laws of God. They, unlike the vast majority of so-called Christendom, will be commandment keepers, and will have the faith of Jesus.
And the message they will be preaching will be an echo of Elijah and John the Baptist, and will be in the same Spirit and power.....
Revelation 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.