my definition of Christian

ScaliaFan · May 23, 2016

my definition of Christian: someone who loves Jesus, prays to Jesus, does what He says... and puts Him above all others or at least TRIES to (we all fail here & there)

by that definition, there are not many chrstians in the world

JEsus told us there wouldn't be.. said that "few" find the Way to Heaven..

see Mt 7 and Lk 13:24

Angel · May 23, 2016

John 15:16-17
You did not choose Me, but I chose you. And I appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will remain—so that whatever you ask the Father in My name, He will give you. This is my command to you: Love one another.

You have to be chosen I think. And love one another. You left that part out.

H. Richard · May 24, 2016

God loves us so much that He has made a way for people to be saved from their sinful SELF. That way, Jesus' shed blood on a cross, has wiped out all the sins of the flesh for all people. It is totally fair in that it doesn't require a person to become perfect in their sinful bodies. It only requires that people believe Him.

In this age of God's grace a person has to put all their faith, trust, belief, and confidence in what Jesus (God) did on the cross. He paid our sin debt for us.

Today. in religions, men and women place their faith, trust, belief, and confidence in their own religious theology to save them. These are self-righteous who, like the Pharisees, want to make a show of themselves as being less sinful than others.

Luke 18:9-14 ---- The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector
9 Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10 "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself,'God, I thank You that I am not like other men — extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector.
12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.'
13 And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me a sinner!'
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
NKJV

If I am saved from all the sin in the world and not saved from my sinful self then there is no salvation.

ScaliaFan · May 24, 2016

Angel said:
John 15:16-17
You did not choose Me, but I chose you. And I appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will remain—so that whatever you ask the Father in My name, He will give you. This is my command to you: Love one another.

You have to be chosen I think. And love one another. You left that part out.

are you saying that someone who chooses Christ is not necessarily "of Him" b/c Jesus has to choose him/her?

makes no sense

no one would choose Jesus unless He had chosen him/her first

ScaliaFan · May 24, 2016

H. Richard said:
God loves us so much that He has made a way for people to be saved from their sinful SELF. That way, Jesus' shed blood on a cross, has wiped out all the sins of the flesh for all people. It is totally fair in that it doesn't require a person to become perfect in their sinful bodies. It only requires that people believe Him.

not true

"Even the demons believe.. and tremble"

mjrhealth · May 25, 2016

not true

"Even the demons believe.. and tremble"

Well when HR said "believe" he meant have faith, which is very lacking in christian circles, but it is what pleases God, Demons have no faith neither do they believe Jesus can save them, ..

H. Richard · May 25, 2016

mjrhealth said:
Well when HR said "believe" he meant have faith, which is very lacking in christian circles, but it is what pleases God, Demons have no faith neither do they believe Jesus can save them, ..

It is remarkable that some do not know that the words, belief, faith, trust, and confidence all mean the same thing. In the Dictionary each of these words are used to describe the others.

But some Theologies can not stand this truth.

But what I posted is the truth and if you do not believe it you will not be in heaven. But religious people do not want what I said to be the truth because they want a religion in which they can boast of their good works. They do not want Jesus to be their good works.

FHII · May 25, 2016

When James said that devils believe an tremble, what was it that he said that they believe? The answer: that there is one God. Through other scripture we know that they also knew that Jesus was the son of God. But did they believe that Jesus was their savior? Of course not. So their belief wasn't "faith" as it pertains to Christians.

Of course, James' point that he was trying to make is that faith (or belief) isn't enough; a point I totally disagree with. But what i do agree with is that faith is more than merely believing.

ScaliaFan · May 25, 2016

FHII said:
When James said that devils believe an tremble, what was it that he said that they believe? The answer: that there is one God. Through other scripture we know that they also knew that Jesus was the son of God. But did they believe that Jesus was their savior? Of course not. So their belief wasn't "faith" as it pertains to Christians.

Of course, James' point that he was trying to make is that faith (or belief) isn't enough; a point I totally disagree with. But what i do agree with is that faith is more than merely believing.

I don't really get this

but the context was taking care of our brothers/sisters in Christ.. not telling those in need to be warm and fed but doing nothing for them

that is dead faith

Jesus said not everyone who says Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of H but only those who do the will of the Father (ie everything He says)

ScaliaFan · May 25, 2016

H. Richard said:
It is remarkable that some do not know that the words, belief, faith, trust, and confidence all mean the same thing. In the Dictionary each of these words are used to describe the others.

But some Theologies can not stand this truth.

But what I posted is the truth and if you do not believe it you will not be in heaven. But religious people do not want what I said to be the truth because they want a religion in which they can boast of their good works. They do not want Jesus to be their good works.

if by "religion" you mean people who actually believe they (we) hve to DO good things to get to Heaven, then I dont agree

because we ARE to DO things.. you can't just say Oh, Jesus, I believe in you, then go about your life doing what you want, getting rich, forgetting about helping people... etc.. and think u r still going to Heaven. Those who don't love neighbor as self don't get into Heaven.. and love is not a feeling.. If you, as James 2 says.. say you love your neighbor but do not help him/her.. you do not love at all

H. Richard · May 26, 2016

ScaliaFan said:
if by "religion" you mean people who actually believe they (we) hve to DO good things to get to Heaven, then I dont agree

because we ARE to DO things.. you can't just say Oh, Jesus, I believe in you, then go about your life doing what you want, getting rich, forgetting about helping people... etc.. and think u r still going to Heaven. Those who don't love neighbor as self don't get into Heaven.. and love is not a feeling.. If you, as James 2 says.. say you love your neighbor but do not help him/her.. you do not love at all

A good example of what am saying is what happened to Cain and Able.

God told, both Cain and Able that they were required to offer a blood sacrifice . This is what God said. Able believed what God said and offered a blood sacrifice.

But Cain did not listen to what God said and thought to himself that God would surely take his offering of the things brought about by the works of his hands.

The story is the same today. God says He has paid for all the sins of the world and you must believe it. But man does not believe God. They believe in their works in religions.

Gen 4:2-5
2 Then she bore again, this time his brother Abel. Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
3 And in the process of time it came to pass that Cain brought an offering of the fruit of the ground to the Lord.
4 Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat. And the Lord respected Abel and his offering,
5 but He did not respect Cain and his offering. And Cain was very angry, and his countenance fell.
NKJV

It is no different today in that those in religions are jealous of those that trust in God's plan of salvation.

ScaliaFan · May 28, 2016

mjrhealth said:
Well when HR said "believe" he meant have faith, which is very lacking in christian circles, but it is what pleases God, Demons have no faith neither do they believe Jesus can save them, ..

do you defy the Scriptures with your own heretical beliefs???

I take Jesus @ his word, not humans who are far more lost and fallen than they know

H. Richard · May 28, 2016

ScaliaFan said:
do you defy the Scriptures with your own heretical beliefs???

I take Jesus @ his word, not humans who are far more lost and fallen than they know

No! That which you accuse me of is that which is laid at your own doorsteps.

Paul was specifically sent, by the ascended Jesus Christ, to the Gentles with the message of grace. Do you deny that Paul is the one that Jesus sent to the Gentiles?? If you say you don't deny it then why don't you spend more time in studying Paul's message of grace that was given to us and says we are not under the law? We are under God's grace which states that Jesus has paid for all the sins of the world but a person's pardon is only in effect if that person believes it. If a person does not believe in the work Jesus accomplished on the cross God's wrath is on that person because he has refused the work of His Son, Jesus Christ.

Acts 9:15-17
15 But the Lord said to him, "Go, for he (PAUL) is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel.
16 For I will show him how many things he must suffer for My name's sake."
17 And Ananias went his way and entered the house; and laying his hands on him he said, "Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came, has sent me that you may receive your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit."
NKJVH

eb 10:28-29
28 Anyone who has rejected Moses' law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?
NKJV

mjrhealth · May 28, 2016

do you defy the Scriptures with your own heretical beliefs???

What heretical beliefs, ???

Like teh RC is teh church that Jesus instituded, no i dont believe those lies. As you said, I take Him at His word,not mens religious beliefs, Lets make make it clear there is a difference.

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