The Mark of the Beast, the Name of the Beast or the Number of its Name, and 666

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The second beast of Revelation brings forth the mark of the beast,

And I saw another beast ascending from out of the earth, and he had two horns likened to a lamb; and he spoke as a dragon. (Revelation of John 13:11 [ABP])
Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked...
(Revelation 13:16 [ESV])

A beast in prophecy symbolizes a kingdom, which is why this beast in the book of Daniel was said to symbolize a kingdom,

“He gave me this explanation: ‘The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth… (Daniel 7:23 [NIV])

As such, the second beast of Revelation symbolizes the United States. And so, as opposed to the first beast rising from the sea, which symbolizes many peoples and languages,

And he says to me, The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples and multitudes, and nations, and languages. (Revelation of John 17:15 [ABP])

The United States rose from a sparse population, which is symbolized by the second beast rising from the earth, and was thus colonized in a new world by European kingdoms descending from the first beast. And so, the mark of the beast issued by the second beast, has two distinct forms, which are the "name of the beast" or the "number of the name",

...unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name. (Revelation 13:17 [ESV])

As such, since the name that is received on the foreheads of the 144,000 chosen,

[3] saying, Injure not the earth, nor the sea, nor the trees, until we seal the bondmen of our God upon their foreheads. [4] And I heard the numbers of the ones having been sealed -- a hundred and forty four thousand having been sealed, from out of every tribe of the sons of Israel.
(Revelation of John 7:3-4 [ABP])
And I saw, and behold, a lamb standing upon mount Zion, and with him a hundred forty four thousand, having his name and the name of his father being written upon their foreheads. (Revelation of John 14:1 [ABP])

Symbolizes the holy spirit,

and who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee. (2 Corinthians 1:22 [ESV])


In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, (Ephesians 1:13 [ESV])
Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. (Exodus 23:21 [NIV])

Therefore, the mark of the beast is also symbolic. And because having the mark of the beast bears the penalty of the judgment of the lake of fire,

[9] And another angel, a third followed them, saying with a great voice, If any does obeisance to the beast and its image, and receives an imprint upon his forehead or upon his hand; [10] even he shall drink of the wine of the rage of God, the one being mixed undiluted in the cup of his wrath; and he shall be tormented by fire and sulphur before the holy angels, and before the lamb.
(Revelation of John 14:9-10 [ABP])

The mark of the beast therefore also symbolizes an actual sin, which specifically breaks a command given by God elsewhere in scripture. And just are there are two distinct forms of the mark, there are also two distinct places to receive the mark, which are on the right hand or on the forehead,

Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead,
(Revelation 13:16 [ESV])

In which case, the forehead symbolizes ownership of the person, hence why those who are sealed on the forehead with the name of God belong to God. As such, since the forehead is where the chosen receive the name of God, in likewise manner, the forehead is where the "name of the beast" is also received. In which case, above all the systems in the United States, only one is forced on everyone, great and small, rich and poor, child and adult,

And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the bondmen, that there should be given to them an imprint upon their right hand, or upon their foreheads. (Revelation of John 13:16 [ABP])

And it is the social security insurance system, which is what the "name of the beast" symbolizes. In which case, the government takes ownership of the person by branding them with a social security number, who then becomes forced to pay into this system for the rest of their life, unless they live long enough to reach a certain old age. This system is based on an abomination,

engages in usury and charges interest. Will he live? He will not! Because he has done all these abominable deeds he will certainly die. He will bear the responsibility for his own death. (Ezekiel 18:13 [NETBIBLE])
he shall not give his money with interest, and shall not take money by usury; he shall turn his hand from injustice; he shall execute a just judgment between a man and his neighbor; (Ezekiel 18:8 [ABP])

Which is the abomination of usury, which is an unjust gain of money that is not earned as a hired laborer,

For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer deserves his wages.” (1 Timothy 5:18 [ESV])

Nor money earned by renting a property or possession,

For two whole years Paul stayed there in his own rented house and welcomed all who came to see him. (Acts 28:30 [NIV])

Nor money earned by selling a property or possession,

All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. (Acts 2:44-45 [NIV])

But is money that is unjustly gained from various forms of usury, such as gambling, lotteries, stocks, insurances, pensions, annuities, all of which are based on evil schemes for the greedy to take money, to then have a profit of money predicated on chance and time. And so, just as the name of the beast is able to allow men to buy or sell,

so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name. (Revelation 13:17 [ESV])

So is social security able to indirectly allow men to buy or sell through the use of the social security number, for transactions such as mortgages to buy or sell properties, auto loans to buy or sell cars, and credit cards to buy or sell possessions. And so, as opposed to the "name of the beast" that is received on the forehead, the "number of the name" is received on the right hand, in which case the right hand is a symbol for authority, hence the authority Jesus Christ received sitting at the right hand of God,

[6] And I saw, and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, a lamb standing as being slain, having seven horns and seven eyes; which are the seven spirits of God being sent into all the earth. [7] And he came, and he took from out of the right hand of the one sitting upon the throne a scroll.
(Revelation of John 5:6-7 [ABP])
So then the Lord, after speaking with them, was taken up into the heaven, and he sat at the right of God. (Mark 16:19 [ABP])
And having come forward, Jesus spoke to them, saying, All authority was given to me in heaven and upon earth. (Matthew 28:18 [ABP])

In which case, the "number of the name" is also related to a man whose number is 666,

This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.(Revelation of John 13:18 [ESV])

As such, since all symbols in Revelation are derived from other passages in scripture, the symbol of 666 is related to this scripture,

Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was 666 talents of gold, (1 Kings 10:14 [ESV])

As such, the man whom 666 is referring to is Solomon, in which case Solomon, who was the wealthiest man on earth,

So King Solomon became greater than all the kings of the earth in riches and in wisdom. (1 Kings 10:23 [NASB])

Symbolizes the United States, which is also the wealthiest nation on earth, because just as 666 relates to the gold that Solomon received, so does 666 relate to the gold that the United States has stockpiled in what is now known as the federal reserve system, in which case, the United States is the nation with the highest gold reserves in the world. As such, the "number of the name" symbolizes the federal reserve and central banking system, which grants customers the authority to buy and sell through its system, using account numbers, checks, and debit cards. This banking system is not only forbidden in scripture because it makes profits from interest, but is also an abomination,

“You shall not charge interest on loans to your brother, interest on money, interest on food, interest on anything that is lent for interest. (Deutereonomy 23:19 [ESV])
engages in usury and charges interest. Will he live? He will not! Because he has done all these abominable deeds he will certainly die. He will bear the responsibility for his own death. (Ezekiel 18:13 [NETBIBLE])

These two forms of the mark of the beast do not just exist in the United States, but all around the world, as most nations have implemented their own social security and central banking systems as well. This is the image of the beast that the second beast tells the inhabitants of the world to make,

…deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived. (Revelation 13:14 [ESV])

Which are forms of governments that not only image the republic form of government that the Romans first were, and that the United States now is, but that also image these evil financial systems that exist in the United States. As such, the mark of the beast is already all over the world. And so, in comparison to the seal of the holy spirit that the chosen receive, which cannot be lost, hence why it is called a seal,

"As for me, this is my covenant with them," says the LORD. "My Spirit, who is on you, will not depart from you, and my words that I have put in your mouth will always be on your lips, on the lips of your children and on the lips of their descendants--from this time on and forever," says the LORD. (Isaiah 59:26 [NIV])

The mark of the beast, which is not a seal, can indeed be removed, but only by repentance, which means terminating your social security number and also closing your bank accounts, for no one bearing the mark of the beast can receive the seal of God. This is one reason why many among those who believe in Jesus Christ have not received the seal of the holy spirit, because the love of money has caused them to enter these great evils that exist today,

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. (1 Timothy 6:10 [NIV])
 

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cga said:
As such, the second beast of Revelation symbolizes the United States. And so, as opposed to the first beast rising from the sea, which symbolizes many peoples and languages,
Wait a minute, isn't the United States formed from many peoples and languages? Yeah, it is.
 

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cga said:
The United States rose from a sparse population, which is symbolized by the second beast rising from the earth, and was thus colonized in a new world by European kingdoms descending from the first beast.
The Indians numbered in the tens of millions, until they were affected by new diseases they got from the invading Europeans.

The Colonists came from a sea of peoples.

What does a "sparse" population have to do with the identity of the second beast from the land?
 

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As such, the man whom 666 is referring to is Solomon, in which case Solomon, who was the wealthiest man on earth,
Which is why John couldn't name him centuries later when he wrote the Revelations of Christ Jesus in the first century A.D.?

No, that doesn't make sense... do you want to try again?
 

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The first beast is a system,ie NWO, The second beast is satan himself,whom shall heal the (deadly wound)first beast.....
 

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The first beast is a system,ie NWO, The second beast is satan himself,whom shall heal the (deadly wound)first beast.....
Makes no sense. The dragon is Satan, who gives his authority to the first beast, and then the first beast gives authority to the second beast. Do you people actually think things through before speaking? Be intelligent.
 

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cga said:
Makes no sense. The dragon is Satan, who gives his authority to the first beast, and then the first beast gives authority to the second beast. Do you people actually think things through before speaking? Be intelligent.
Im wondering the same thing,look at scripture and see how many and by what's the many names satan goes by,and I'll ask you what Christ always said...

Have you not read?

Rev 13:11 gives you the identity of the 2nd beast

Revelation 13:11 "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

This beast coming up out of the earth looks like a Lamb [Jesus Christ], yet he speaks like a dragon; because he is the dragon [Satan]. He claims to be Jesus, and most Christians will believe him
 

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n2thelight said:
Im wondering the same thing,look at scripture and see how many and by what's the many names satan goes by,and I'll ask you what Christ always said...

Have you not read?

Rev 13:11 gives you the identity of the 2nd beast

Revelation 13:11 "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

This beast coming up out of the earth looks like a Lamb [Jesus Christ], yet he speaks like a dragon; because he is the dragon [Satan]. He claims to be Jesus, and most Christians will believe him
Just because this beast looks like a lamb does not make this beast a lamb, nor just because it looks like a dragon does it make it a dragon. Have you never heard of a simile? "like...", "as a....", these are similes, and are declared so to relate this particular beast to what a lamb symbolizes, which is "innocence, righteousness", and what a dragon symbolizes "great authority, great power", but this beast is not itself a lamb, nor is it a dragon either.
 

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Marcus O'Reillius said:
Which is why John couldn't name him centuries later when he wrote the Revelations of Christ Jesus in the first century A.D.?

No, that doesn't make sense... do you want to try again?
The pagan Roman Empire was headed in the A.D. 60s by Caesar Nero, whose name happened to add up to 666 in the Hebrew system of letters and numbers. In Hebrew, "Caesar Nero" = "NRWN QSR" = N 50 + R 200 + W 6 + N 50 + Q 100 + S 60 + R 200 = 666!!!

Do I win???? :D

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It is Ronald Reagan- The only US president that ever pre planned an defensive plan against an invader from (outside this World- as he called it) Yes Ronald Reagan is passed away dead.. But how can this (Beast) come up from the abyss unless he is dead.. His spirit will enter into Donald Trump at some point if not already.. and they will both attack the return of Jesus Christ with the World thinking it is alien invaders from another planet.. is exactly what Christ return will look like. If you correctly add up all the letters of every US president you will find that Ronald Wilson Reagan at the end adds up to 666 letters.. It is the name of a man..A name of a man if calculated will add up to 666
 

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tom55 said:
The pagan Roman Empire was headed in the A.D. 60s by Caesar Nero, whose name happened to add up to 666 in the Hebrew system of letters and numbers. In Hebrew, "Caesar Nero" = "NRWN QSR" = N 50 + R 200 + W 6 + N 50 + Q 100 + S 60 + R 200 = 666!!!

Do I win????
No.

​Fancy letter-number games have been played many times with many people with many others being labeled as the anti-Christ because of some letter-numbering scheme.

If Nero were the anti-Christ, the sixth head of the beast of a dragon of a nation the whore of Babylon rides, then the one 'seven' already happened because the ruler who will come is the center of Daniel 9:27 as the actor who "prevails" a limited-time covenant, IS the midpoint abomination as Rev 13:14-15 reveals, and has God's Desolations poured out on him at the end of the verse.

Well none of that happened in the past.
​And John wrote Revelation after Nero.
​And Ronald Reagan died peaceably.
 

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Marcus O'Reillius said:
No.
​Fancy letter-number games have been played many times with many people with many others being labeled as the anti-Christ because of some letter-numbering scheme.

If Nero were the anti-Christ, the sixth head of the beast of a dragon of a nation the whore of Babylon rides, then the one 'seven' already happened because the ruler who will come is the center of Daniel 9:27 as the actor who "prevails" a limited-time covenant, IS the midpoint abomination as Rev 13:14-15 reveals, and has God's Desolations poured out on him at the end of the verse.

Well none of that happened in the past.
​And John wrote Revelation after Nero.
​And Ronald Reagan died peaceably.

The beast from the sea is the pagan Roman Empire of the first century and the emperor at its head. This is like Daniel’s four beasts who were described both as four kings (Dan 7:17) and four kingdoms (Dan. 7:23).

Further confirmation is found in Revelation speaking of the Jewish temple as if it were still operating (11:1), but soon to be trampled by the gentiles, along with the holy city (11:2). Shortly after Nero’s reign, the gentiles did indeed invade Jerusalem, trample it, and destroy the temple. This suggests not only that the beast corresponded to the Roman empire in general and Caesar Nero in particular but also that the book of Revelation itself was written sometime in the early A.D. 60s, during Nero’s reign, just before the Jewish War that led to the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in A.D. 70.

Nero is a very good candidate for being the Beast of Revelation since the book of Revelation applies to the first century rather than the twenty-first.


 

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Marcus O'Reillius said:
Which is why John couldn't name him centuries later when he wrote the Revelations of Christ Jesus in the first century A.D.?

No, that doesn't make sense... do you want to try again?

Both are wrong. Tell me Marcus since you have so much understanding of John, What He Did Not Know, the One that walked with Christ in flesh and in Spirit. You also can tell what he did know. I tell you He did know and told you but you lean on you own understanding so you don't know.
 

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Marcus O'Reillius said:
Which is why John couldn't name him centuries later when he wrote the Revelations of Christ Jesus in the first century A.D.?

No, that doesn't make sense... do you want to try again?
Hi Marcus,
I had a similar idea when I was new in the faith and spending a lot of time reading through the scriptures repeatedly. At some point I switched from reading the King James version to the new King James version and the first time that I read through 1 Kings chapter 10 again I was struck by verse 14 which reads: "The weight of gold that came to Solomon yearly was six hundred and sixty-six talents of gold," instead of "Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold,". As far as I can tell this is the only place in scripture where the number 666 is mentioned other than in the book of the revelation. It made me examine Solomon more closely, and he wasn't exactly a faithful man with regard to the Law, ignoring the proscriptions for kings given before Israel had a king, and offering worship to the foreign gods of his wives. His behavior was so bad that God promised to rip the kingdom away from his descendants and did. None of this qualifies Solomon as the "first beast" but I'm also bothered by the failing memories I have of occult books which attribute a great many practices in sorcery to King Solomon and the use of the "tetragrammaton" to command unclean spirits. I realize that the use of Solomon's name in sorcery is not proof of his association to it, but then there isn't a way to disprove any association. Also, when I read through scripture, I've taken to skipping over the Song of Solomon, because I don't find Jesus there (some people have, but I don't see it,)and I don't like the descriptive language which at times sounds more idolatrous than anything else (the last verses, which appear to be an add on commentary are also revealing). I've always enjoyed reading Ecclesiastes, but it has a profoundly worldly view of life with little insight into the divine. I'm actually inclined to believe that the reason Solomon's books are included in scripture was the influence of secret societies similar to the modern Freemasons that place great value on the symbolism of Solomon's works (these societies have been around at least as long as the Roman empire and possibly much longer.) What I considered is that Solomon may be a "type" or prefiguring of the anti-christ or more likely, the false prophet that serves him. Once, years ago while reading through the apocryphal wisdom literature, I was so startled by something I read that I nearly tore a page out of my old copy of the Jerusalem bible. There is a passage in one of the books that would seem to contradict some of Solomon's wisdom teachings, and though I don't recall which book it was (and don't have the paperback bible anymore) it struck me as being true and inspired. Having given it some thought now, I'd actually like to review those books, now that I'm more informed in doctrine, and look for some other reason for that particular one to have been excluded from the canon of scripture. As I recall there were even statements which seemed to have been prophetic and fulfilled by the Lord in His ministry (in the flesh.) (but I may be confusing two books, given that it's been decades since I read them.)
Unfortunately, questioning the validity of any accepted scripture will usually put you into the "enemies of God camp" in the minds of most evangelical pastors and I can't say that I blame them for their position, given that the canon has been accepted as is for nearly 2000 years, and the fact that Solomon, like all men, went through different periods of life which altered his perspective.
I'll have to add as a post note that anyone who believes that a king with hundreds of wives and concubines was an expert at love (rather than lust) is just nuts.
 
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The mark of the beast is (Only) in the United States.. It is your social security number or your Tax ID. Yes.. all prophecy will end in the USA. There are 144000 that do not have social security number or tax ID.. They are hid in rual areas of the US .. Everyone else has this mark and will go through hard times tribulation for a few months.. Does not mean you are dammed from entering paradise.. It just means you are going to be whipped within inches of your sinful life's past or present. The United States is the (Generation) Jesus spoke of that will not pass away until all things are fulfilled . God did this part of Earth's history as a (Spiritual fulfillment) The United states in Heaven is called spiritually (Israel) New york city is spiritually called (Jerusalem) by those who live in Heaven.. It is (NOT) called that here on Earth.. But in Heaven it is.. And in Heaven what the US and New york is called (IS) the reality.. It is (You) that dwell on Earth that are the ignorant ones. This is done so that the majority that live on Earth will be dammed and not see it. It keeps them from repenting so they will slide down the mouth and throat of death and hell into the digestive fires to be dissolved.
 

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A mark actually branded on a person will (Give it away) and people will rebel in a panic.. It is more tricky .. SSN is it or tax ID it (Is) the number of your name.. and you cannot buy or sell without it (unless cash is used) under the table.. Try and get a bank account. sell a house, buy a car.. even buy beer without showing one of these ID's . Get health care, enroll in school, fly on an airline.. Join the military.. you name it (You are trapped in the mark of the beast) -The US Government.. Do not worry - most have this in the US.. you will just have to get a whipping for a small quick time is all .. However there are 144 thousand human virgin gifts to Christ that do not have this in the USA .. They live somewhere (Hidden) under the table.. like Grizzly adams in the woods? in shacks or tents.. living off the land like Rambo mayby.. or just avoiding all of it in a miracle.. Good luck in your whipping to come.. take the pain soldier!