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Skypair: See .. I knew you would have another narrative .. one that I have heard before that makes a mockery of the text. One sits down to rest and stands up to ACT.

Heb 13:8: It doesn't make a mockery. The church isn't raptured until after the six seal on the Day of the Lord...

2 Thess 2:3-4 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

Skypair: The strong delusion is Mt 13:39-41. AntiChrist will claim that those taken are the tares and that he is Christ at His 2nd coming. This is written in God's word and that is how the delusion comes from God. And YOU are going to be soooo ready for that to happen, aren't you?

Heb 13:8: No, the strong delusion is God pulling away when the great tribulation begins, so they can take the mark of the beast..

Rom 1:24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.

Rom 1:26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.

Rom 1:28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.

Skypair: We know for sure who is written in the book — the 144,000.

Heb 13:8: Notice Daniel 12:1 mentions the book of life and protection. To be written in the book of life has nothing to do with the 144,000, it has to do with being born again and coming to faith in Jesus Christ.

John 17:12 NIV While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.

Skypair: I'm sorry. I am very familiar with what you are saying and it revises just enough words to ring true .. though it is not. Jesus is coming back to receive us to Himself that where He is, "there we may be also" And where I am going, you know; and the way, you know." (Jn 14:1-4) He gave John a vision of just that in Rev 4-5 which occurred just prior to the opening of the seals. If you really understood Rev 2-3, you would know that anyone left behind and converted, whether martyred or not, will have an EARTHLY existence in the Millennial Kingdom of Christ per 2:26-27.

Heb 13:8: That was a vision of the 70th week. 1 Thess 4:13-17 caught up and Rev 4:1 come up have completely different meanings in Greek text. If you had done a proper study, you would see that rapture occurs after six seal on the Day of the Lord on the Feast of Trumpets in the latter half of the 70th week.
 

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Heb 13:8 said:
So you're non-osas correct.
Once saved, always saved is a wrong idea that contradicts many scriptures saying; how we must stand firm and keep strong in our faith. Revelation 13:10

You say that a rapture happens at the Sixth Seal. I study the Bible very closely and I just cannot see that written there. Unless you can show us where it says that God will take His people to heaven, I will continue to call you and every other rapture teacher, false teachers and promoters of unscriptural theories.
 

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You say that a rapture happens at the Sixth Seal. I study the Bible very closely and I just cannot see that written there.
Rapture, God's Wrath, Day of the Lord, Sixth Seal Connection

Underline: Rapture on the Day of the Lord

Matt 24:42-44 NIV “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

1 Thess 5:2 NIV for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.

2 Thess 2:3-4 NIV Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

2 Pet 3:10 NIV But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

Underline: The Day of the Lord is rapture and also God's wrath.

Isa 13:9 NIV See, the day of the LORD is coming —a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger— to make the land desolate and destroy the sinners within it.

Eze 7:19 NIV “ ‘They will throw their silver into the streets, and their gold will be treated as a thing unclean. Their silver and gold will not be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD's wrath. It will not satisfy their hunger or fill their stomachs, for it has caused them to stumble into sin.

Zep 1:18 NIV Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to save them on the day of the LORD's wrath.” In the fire of his jealousy the whole earth will be consumed, for he will make a sudden end of all who live on the earth.

Zep 2:2 NIV before the decree takes effect and that day passes like windblown chaff, before the LORD's fierce anger comes upon you, before the day of the LORD's wrath comes upon you.

Rev 6:15-17 NIV Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can withstand it?

Underline: Rapture on the Day of the Lord after sixth seal. Sun, moon, stars, earthquake..

Isa 13:10 NIV The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light. The rising sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light.

Isa 34:4 NIV All the stars in the sky will be dissolved and the heavens rolled up like a scroll; all the starry host will fall like withered leaves from the vine, like shriveled figs from the fig tree.

Joel 2:30-31 NIV I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and billows of smoke. 31The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.

Joel 3:14-15 NIV Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision! For the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision. 15The sun and moon will be darkened, and the stars no longer shine.

Matt 24:29 NIV “Immediately after the distress of those days “ ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

Mark 13:24 NIV "But in those days, following that distress, "'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light;

Luke 21:25-28 NIV “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

Acts 2:19-20 NIV I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke. 20The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.

2 Pet 3:10 NIV But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

Rev 6:12-14 NIV I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, 13and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. 14The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.

Underline: Heavens rolled up like a scroll, fig tree, nonbelievers hiding in caves.

Isa 2:19 NIV People will flee to caves in the rocks and to holes in the ground from the fearful presence of the LORD and the splendor of his majesty, when he rises to shake the earth.

Isa 34:4 NIV All the stars in the sky will be dissolved and the heavens rolled up like a scroll; all the starry host will fall like withered leaves from the vine, like shriveled figs from the fig tree.

Rev 6:12-14 NIV I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, 13and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. 14The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. 15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the t

keras said:
Once saved, always saved is a wrong idea that contradicts many scriptures saying; how we must stand firm and keep strong in our faith. Revelation 13:10
Underline: This is just stating a fact about the fate of believers. If anyone is referring to God's people. Jesus died for all sins, and there's a transformation in the heart of the believer. Rev 3:10 is also about martyrdom.

Rev 13:10 "If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity they will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword they will be killed." This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God's people.

2 Tim 2:13 if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot disown himself.
 

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ONE verse please, that actually says God will take His people to heaven. Not verses that you think show live people in heaven:
Not Revelation 7:9, that is actually an earth scene.
Not Revelation 19:1, that is paralleled by Rev 6:10 and is the souls of the martyrs.
Not verses that say we are citizens of heaven, when we actually are on earth.
Not 1 Thess 4:15-17, that describes the gathering to where Jesus is - on earth.
Luke 21:35 and 1 Peter 4:12 say what will happen will come upon everyone the whole world over.

Re OSAS; read Ezekiel 18:24-28 and still think that a believer who turns from his righteous ways is OK?

Heb 13, I don't know you, but I suggest you reconsider what you have been taught. Otherwise you are simply in the dark about what God plans for His people.
 

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keras said:
ONE verse please, that actually says God will take His people to heaven. Not verses that you think show live people in heaven:
Not Revelation 7:9, that is actually an earth scene.
Not Revelation 19:1, that is paralleled by Rev 6:10 and is the souls of the martyrs.
Not verses that say we are citizens of heaven, when we actually are on earth.
Not 1 Thess 4:15-17, that describes the gathering to where Jesus is - on earth.
Luke 21:35 and 1 Peter 4:12 say what will happen will come upon everyone the whole world over.
Fine linen describes righteous people of God, and Rev 7:9 is a heaven scene.

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Re OSAS; read Ezekiel 18:24-28 and still think that a believer who turns from his righteous ways is OK?

Heb 13, I don't know you, but I suggest you reconsider what you have been taught. Otherwise you are simply in the dark about what God plans for His people.
Jesus died for the sins of the world. He already paid the sin debt. And proving OSAS is false by using the OT is silly. Try using the gospel of faith in the NT, like Eph 1:13-14, believed is past tense.
 

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Heb 13:8 said:
Fine linen describes righteous people of God, and Rev 7:9 is a heaven scene.


Jesus died for the sins of the world. He already paid the sin debt. And proving OSAS is false by using the OT is silly. Try using the gospel of faith in the NT, like Eph 1:13-14, believed is past tense.
I believe in once saved always saved, but I also believe that anybody claiming to be saved should show it by their fruits. If anybody thinks that you can call yourself saved while being prideful in your flaming homosexual behavior and think that's going to pass with God, then I would certainly hate to be you on the day of the Lord. When it comes down to it, God knows who his true followers are and who isn't, and he will separate the wheat's from the tares when the time comes.
 

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Heb 13:8 said:
Fine linen describes righteous people of God, and Rev 7:9 is a heaven scene.


Jesus died for the sins of the world. He already paid the sin debt. And proving OSAS is false by using the OT is silly. Try using the gospel of faith in the NT, like Eph 1:13-14, believed is past tense.
Are you happy to hang your entire rapture to heaven belief on the fact that the souls of the martyrs are given while robes to wear, Rev 6:11. the Bride of Christ, at the Return, Rev 19:8 AND the angel armies all wear white? Rev 19:14
Where is the clear scripture saying God will take His people to heaven?
Please show where Rev 7 says any of what is prophesied there is in heaven. Rev 7:16-17 describes the New heaven; on earth, as proved by Rev 21:1-4

So the OT is silly? You totally fail to see that the NT supports the truth of how a good Christian can fall from grace. You might say they were never true Christians, but I know a few personally that were good Christians, yet temptation felled them. This is why we are exhorted to stand strong in our faith and the problem with believing in a rapture, is when it doesn't happen, many will renounce God.
 

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keras said:
You say that a rapture happens at the Sixth Seal. I study the Bible very closely and I just cannot see that written there. Unless you can show us where it says that God will take His people to heaven, I will continue to call you and every other rapture teacher, false teachers and promoters of unscriptural theories.
No, this guy, who supposedly writes Bible study guides, says that the Rapture found in 1Th 4:17 is a satanic lie.
He also says that Isaiah 30:26 means the sun will explode.

Perhaps he cannot see because he is blind.
And so he then leads the blind whoever actually reads his "study guides."
If they're anything like what he writes here; anyone who relies on his "guides" is truly lost.
 

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Marcus O'Reillius said:
No, this guy, who supposedly writes Bible study guides, says that the Rapture found in 1Th 4:17 is a satanic lie.
He also says that Isaiah 30:26 means the sun will explode.

Perhaps he cannot see because he is blind.
And so he then leads the blind whoever actually reads his "study guides."
If they're anything like what he writes here; anyone who relies on his "guides" is truly lost.
He thinks the sun will explode? Really?



(Revelation 6:12-13) "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; {13} And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind."
It basically just says that the sun will no longer give off any light turning pitch black. I don't see how anybody can interpret this as an explosion. Does he believe that the Moon will explode because its color turns red? His reasoning has to follow up with the Moon as well.
 

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Dcopymope said:
When it comes down to it, God knows who his true followers are and who isn't, and he will separate the wheat's from the tares when the time comes.
Yes. Forum or no silly forum.​

keras said:
Are you happy to hang your entire rapture to heaven belief on the fact that the souls of the martyrs are given while robes to wear, Rev 6:11. the Bride of Christ, at the Return, Rev 19:8 AND the angel armies all wear white? Rev 19:14
Where is the clear scripture saying God will take His people to heaven?
Please show where Rev 7 says any of what is prophesied there is in heaven. Rev 7:16-17 describes the New heaven; on earth, as proved by Rev 21:1-4
Why would Jesus come (secretly) like a thief in the night if he wasn't rapturing His people. Why come like a thief if you have nothing to take. Jesus landing on the mount of olives will not be in secret. The rapture will.

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So the OT is silly? You totally fail to see that the NT supports the truth of how a good Christian can fall from grace. You might say they were never true Christians, but I know a few personally that were good Christians, yet temptation felled them. This is why we are exhorted to stand strong in our faith and the problem with believing in a rapture, is when it doesn't happen, many will renounce God.
Non-osas is a horrible doctrine that forces people to save themselves and not put their faith in the finished work of the cross. Believers will stand strong in the faith because the seed of God never leaves them. You say you're born again. So why do you put yourself back under the law when you're forever under grace.
 

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Marcus O'Reillius said:
Perhaps he cannot see because he is blind.
A Blind Beggar Receives His Sight

35 As Jesus approached Jericho, a blind man was sitting by the roadside begging. 36 When he heard the crowd going by, he asked what was happening. 37 They told him, “Jesus of Nazareth is passing by.” 38 He called out, “Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!” 39 Those who led the way rebuked him and told him to be quiet, but he shouted all the more, “Son of David, have mercy on me!” 40 Jesus stopped and ordered the man to be brought to him. When he came near, Jesus asked him, 41 “What do you want me to do for you?”“Lord, I want to see,” he replied. 42 Jesus said to him, “Receive your sight; your faith has healed you.” 43 Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus, praising God. When all the people saw it, they also praised God.
 

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Dcopymope said:
He thinks the sun will explode? Really?

It basically just says that the sun will no longer give off any light turning pitch black. I don't see how anybody can interpret this as an explosion. Does he believe that the Moon will explode because its color turns red? His reasoning has to follow up with the Moon as well.
Many Bible prophesies say the Lord will send fire to destroy His enemies. It's mentioned in Psalm 83, Peter says it. 2 Peter 3:7 and Isaiah 30:26-30 states that the sun will shine 7 times brighter., something that can only be explained by a Coronal Mass Ejection. Confirmed by Malachi 4:1, Isaiah 66:15-16 and Psalm 50:1-3 +
The darkening prophesied in Rev 6:12 is the ejected mass obscuring the sun and the moon blood red is the reflected flash of the CME. Also when the mass strikes the moon, it could cause a thermite reaction with the oxidized moon dust.
Despite Marcus' vehement objections, he is overruled by the truth.

Re OSAS; Denying the truth of Ezekiel 18:24, as you all do, then that chapter is rejected. So the Book of Ezekiel is not to be trusted. This makes all the Old Testament suspect and as it doesn't fit with the rapture to heaven trip you are all booked into, then its all practically worthless. Not a lot of the New Testament suits your beliefs as well, better believe Hal Lindsay and all these real teachers who say we will not face the Lord's wrath. Good luck, you are going to need it!
 

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keras said:
The darkening prophesied in Rev 6:12 is the ejected mass obscuring the sun and the moon blood red is the reflected flash of the CME. Also when the mass strikes the moon, it could cause a thermite reaction with the oxidized moon dust.
Despite Marcus' vehement objections, he is overruled by the truth.
I actually laughed out loud.
The pure fantasy of saying destruction comes on a day that the Lord heals then leads the blind writer to double up his fantasy whereby fire darkens. Truly hilarious. And a thermite reaction as truth? Really now... It just keeps getting weirder and weirder.
 

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Proverbs 26:1-5
1 Like snow on summer fruit [laid out for drying], and like rain at
harvest time,
It is not agreeable to acknowledge a fool.

2 Like a bird that migrates and a bat that flies so gratuitous abuse
gets nowhere. [but rather returns on the head of the one who gave it].

3 A whip is for the horse, a bridle for the donkey,
And a rod for the back of fools.

The word translated as "fool" in Hebrew is "casel." This connotes
surety, confidence. Someone who is too sure of themselves will often
act foolishly.

4 Do not answer a fool in his foolishness, as his folly deserves,
​or you may become like him yourself. .

5 Answer a fool as his folly deserves
lest he be wise in his own eyes.
 

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keras said:
Many Bible prophesies say the Lord will send fire to destroy His enemies. It's mentioned in Psalm 83, Peter says it. 2 Peter 3:7 and Isaiah 30:26-30 states that the sun will shine 7 times brighter., something that can only be explained by a Coronal Mass Ejection. Confirmed by Malachi 4:1, Isaiah 66:15-16 and Psalm 50:1-3 +
The darkening prophesied in Rev 6:12 is the ejected mass obscuring the sun and the moon blood red is the reflected flash of the CME. Also when the mass strikes the moon, it could cause a thermite reaction with the oxidized moon dust.
Despite Marcus' vehement objections, he is overruled by the truth.
Why would Jesus come (secretly) like a thief in the night if he wasn't rapturing His people. Why come like a thief if you have nothing to take. Jesus landing on the mount of olives will not be in secret. The rapture will.

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Re OSAS; Denying the truth of Ezekiel 18:24, as you all do, then that chapter is rejected. So the Book of Ezekiel is not to be trusted. This makes all the Old Testament suspect and as it doesn't fit with the rapture to heaven trip you are all booked into, then its all practically worthless. Not a lot of the New Testament suits your beliefs as well, better believe Hal Lindsay and all these real teachers who say we will not face the Lord's wrath. Good luck, you are going to need it!
Underline: Doesn't sin bring death. Wasn't Jesus the only sinless person to ever live..

Rom 8:33 Who shall bring any charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies.

Rom 8:38-39 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 

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Heb 13, The event that 'comes as a thief', unexpectedly; is the terrible Day of the Lord's wrath. Isaiah 29:6, Hab 3:12, Isaiah 13:9-13, Rev 6:12-17

You are clutching at straws in your attempts to fit in a rapture removal to heaven at that time. Nowhere does scripture say such a thing will happen.

Re a Coronal Mass Ejection, I suggest that you google it yourself and get the truth of what scientists say can and the Bible says will happen. ecology.com/earths greatest threat, is a good site.
 

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Heb 13, The event that 'comes as a thief', unexpectedly; is the terrible Day of the Lord's wrath. Isaiah 29:6, Hab 3:12, Isaiah 13:9-13, Rev 6:12-17

You are clutching at straws in your attempts to fit in a rapture removal to heaven at that time. Nowhere does scripture say such a thing will happen.

Re a Coronal Mass Ejection, I suggest that you google it yourself and get the truth of what scientists say can and the Bible says will happen. ecology.com/earths greatest threat, is a good site.
Harpazó means to rescue or to snatch away. Why not just leave us on earth. Why are we being rescued and taken up in the air into the clouds if there's work to be done on earth. Matt 24:30-31, 1 Thess 4:17. Clouds are a long ways away from earth keras...https://www.google.com/#q=how+far+are+the+clouds+from+the+ground
 

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Harpazó means to rescue or to snatch away. Why not just leave us on earth. Why are we being rescued and taken up in the air into the clouds if there's work to be done on earth. Matt 24:30-31, 1 Thess 4:17. Clouds are a long ways away from earth keras...https://www.google.com/#q=how+far+are+the+clouds+from+the+ground
I have always agreed that at the Return of Jesus, there will be a 'harpazo', a gathering of the Lord's people from around the world, to where He is. In Jerusalem.
The error you rapture believers make, is thinking that is in heaven. There is a precedent for a spiritual transportation between two earth locations; with Philip. Acts 8:39

Did you bother to find out the truth of how God will use the sun on His Day of wrath?
 

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[SIZE=medium]The crucial question: who is a biblical Jew? The name "Jew" is derived from the name Judah, who was a son of Jacob through whose lineage the Lord Jesus Christ came. It was also the name of the southern kingdom during the divided kingdom period. By the time of Christ, the name became synonymous with everyone living in Israel. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]In Scripture there are two types of Israelites: The physical descendants of Abraham and the Spiritual descendants of Abraham. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]God does have a special relationship with all Israel but what Jesus did and taught opened the Way for anyone who believes in Him to have eternal life. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]This is a subject which is avoided because a lot of Christians believe in a pre-trib rapture, so they must maintain a separation between Church and Israel for their theory to work. They confidently believe that Israel in the New and Old Testament is the same Israel which exists in the Middle East at present. This is a tragedy because we will see from many Scriptures, that since universal salvation was offered by Jesus, the emphasis is no longer upon ethnic Israel, but upon Spiritual Christian Israel: [/SIZE][SIZE=medium]The Israel of God.[/SIZE] [SIZE=medium]God no longer has a single nation as His people but instead His nation is worldwide: people from every tribe, race, nation and language. Matthew 8:10-12, Luke 13:28-30, John 10:16, Revelation 5:9-10, Isaiah 66:18b[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Before the Advent of Jesus, God called the ethnic nation of Israel the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, Joshua 24:3, Deut. 34:4 [/SIZE] [SIZE=medium]In this context God was dealing with Jewish Israel on a special favored status because from them would come the Messiah, so it was necessary for God to protect them and deal specially with them. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]They served three functions:[/SIZE] [SIZE=medium]First, they were chosen to bring forth the Messiah; secondly, they were a figure or a type of the worldwide church which was to come; and thirdly, their response was to serve as an example to the church today.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]In the New Testament, we plainly see that God no longer dwells upon the subject of the physical seed but upon the spiritual seed. The physical seed was important up to the point of the cross. Since Jesus’ Advent, ethnic descent was no longer needed as a type owing to the fact the church would soon be born on a universal scale.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]In John 8:38-40, we see the Lord in a hot debate with the Pharisees concerning their status of being Abraham’s seed: [/SIZE][SIZE=medium]The Pharisees are claiming they are Abraham’s seed while Christ is saying they are not[/SIZE][SIZE=medium].[/SIZE] [SIZE=medium]Keep in mind the ‘works’ of Abraham was faith. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Galatians 3:6-9:[/SIZE][SIZE=medium] Even as Abraham believed God, so it was accounted to him for righteousness.[/SIZE][SIZE=medium] Know therefore that those who have faith, the same are the children of Abraham.[/SIZE][SIZE=medium] And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles through faith, preached before the gospel to Abraham, saying, In you shall all nations be blessed.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Here are some examples of how God views the body of believers: [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]1. Assembly of the Upright - Psalm 111:1[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]2. True believers in His Name - Jeremiah 12:16[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]3. The Lord’s delight - Isaiah 62:4[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]4. Pearl of Great Price - Matthew 13:45-46[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]5. His Workmanship - Ephesians 2:10[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]6. His priests - Revelation 5:9-10, 1 Peter 2:9[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]In these verses we plainly see that now [/SIZE][SIZE=medium]a true Israelite is one who is a born again Christian [/SIZE][SIZE=medium]because only through Christ are we saved and redeemed.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Ref: Ken Matto[/SIZE]
 

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keras said:
Re a Coronal Mass Ejection, I suggest that you google it yourself and get the truth of what scientists say can and the Bible says will happen. ecology.com/earths greatest threat, is a good site.
You are clutching at straws in your attempts to fit in a coronal mass ejection on the Day of the Lord via Isaiah 30:26. Nowhere does scripture say such a thing will happen.