Rest In Your Residency

Heb 13:8 said:

where's your testimony.

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So, i am condemned as an unbeliever by you, and you do not even know my testimony?

Heb 13:8 said:

No, it's not about how good you can be. It's about how good Jesus already is. It's about believing on the finished work of the cross.

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You preach "sloppy agape" aka "cheap grace". False preachers have strengthened the hands of the wicked so that they dig in their heels and refuse to turn from their wickedness by promising eternal life to them while they yet remain in sin, as in the days of Ezekiel 13:22 KJV.

Actions demonstrate your belief. If a professing Christian continues in sin, the only thing demonstrated is his desire to continue doing the things that made it necessary for Jesus to die on the Cross in the first place. The Cross to him is merely a license to continue serving Satan, rather than the way to have victory over Satan.

Actions demonstrate your belief. If a professing Christian continues in sin,

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And you have stopped...????????

Have you.. You really dont get it do you PM. But glad u back.

bbyrd009 said:

So, i am condemned as an unbeliever by you, and you do not even know my testimony?

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lol, still no testimony.

Phoneman777 said:

You preach "sloppy agape" aka "cheap grace". False preachers have strengthened the hands of the wicked so that they dig in their heels and refuse to turn from their wickedness by promising eternal life to them while they yet remain in sin, as in the days of Ezekiel 13:22 KJV.

Actions demonstrate your belief. If a professing Christian continues in sin, the only thing demonstrated is his desire to continue doing the things that made it necessary for Jesus to die on the Cross in the first place. The Cross to him is merely a license to continue serving Satan, rather than the way to have victory over Satan.

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It's impossible for professing Christians to continue in sin because God's seed never leaves them. In your mind, they continue in sin because you have an accusing spirit.

mjrhealth said:

And you have stopped...????????

Have you.. You really dont get it do you PM. But glad u back.

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At this point he's arguing with himself, talking to himself. Accusing himself of sin? :blink: opcorn:

Heb 13:8 said:

lol, still no testimony.

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oh, i posted a testimony the day i got here. It is onsite. I just do not owe you anything, and apparently it isn't a prerequisite to garner your judgement anyway, right? Lol? Still no apology.

bbyrd009 said:

oh, i posted a testimony the day i got here. It is onsite. I just do not owe you anything, and apparently it isn't a prerequisite to garner your judgement anyway, right? Lol? Still no apology.

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You're not trying to win souls to Christ? I have to search for your testimony? :unsure:

1 - Crown 1 - Crown of Righteousness— Loved the Lord's Appearing - 2 Tim 4:8 NIV
2 - Crown 2 - Incorruptible Crown— Disciplined Bodies / Self-Control - 1 Cor 9:25-27 NIV
3 - Crown 3 - Crown of Life— Endured Patiently through Trials - James 1:12 NIV, Rev 2:10 NIV
4 - Crown 4 - Crown of Glory— Godly Leaders Who were Examples to Flock - 1 Pet 5:2-4 NIV
5 - Crown 5 - Crown of Rejoicing— Soul Winners Crown - 1 Thess 2:19 NIV, Dan 12:3 NIV

Heb 13:8 said:

You're not trying to win souls to Christ? I have to search for your testimony?

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not at all. After all that has nothing to do with why you condemned me out of hand, and now are not able to justify that or apologize; it was just a way to stall for a couple days, change the subject, etc. Worked great!

bbyrd009 said:

not at all. After all that has nothing to do with why you condemned me out of hand, and now are not able to justify that or apologize; it was just a way to stall for a couple days, change the subject, etc. Worked great!

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You stall. Your unbelief in the risen Lord condemns you. Not me.

ha and here all this time i thought there was no condemnation in those who are in Christ...

bbyrd009 said:

ha and here all this time i thought there was no condemnation in those who are in Christ...

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lol, and still no testimony. how do I obtain eternal life?

you listen to the voice of God, and do what He tells you. It's not a puzzle, little kids do it. you just have to remember how. what you did before your Cain killed your Abel

bbyrd009 said:

you listen to the voice of God, and do what He tells you. It's not a puzzle, little kids do it. you just have to remember how. what you did before your Cain killed your Abel

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what scripture do u like to use for eternal life

Heb 13:8 said:

what scripture do u like to use for eternal life

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i don't like to use just one, because it is too limiting imo. Eternal life is expressed many different ways, and the letter does not bring "life" anyway, which kind of literally means i cannot give you a writing that will bring you to eternal life. Hence why one needs Word, which is Life. I bet there is even a verse that says that--there has to be. That is a quote, and i just don't know from where. So see that the whole point kind of is no, i cannot give you a verse for that, unless you want me to go dig up that "Word is life" one.

bbyrd009 said:

you listen to the voice of God, and do what He tells you. It's not a puzzle, little kids do it. you just have to remember how. what you did before your Cain killed your Abel

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How do you know that the voice you are hearing is from God?

mjrhealth said:

very true but you dont know Jesus, your glimpse of Him is what you read, as I have said before, He has much to offer you, yet you reject His offer that is dosobedience, what would you do to have a walk with Jesus, to talk to Him to walk with Him to be taught by Him, why is it you prefer the bible to Him who is teh living word.

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MJRH, the reason why you claim I don't know Jesus is b/c my version of Jesus is different than yours. My version is a Jesus who says to the repentant, "Go and sin no more, " a direct command to us from the Almighty Himself Who paid an infinite price with His life for our sins debt.

Your version is a Jesus who says to impenitent lovers of sin, "My grace will cover you so keep on doing those things which made necessary my death on the Cross in the first place." As long as you believe in this Jesus, you will never recognize that the Word of God which we hold in our hand and read is a transcript of the character of the Word of God Who became flesh and dwelt among us, and therefore, you will remain in darkness as to what the Word of God requires of those who put their trust in the True Jesus and not your version of Jesus which is one of the many false Christs that He predicted would arise in the last days.

MJRH, the reason why you claim I don't know Jesus is b/c my version of Jesus is different than yours. My version is a Jesus who says to the repentant, "Go and sin no more, " a direct command to us from the Almighty Himself Who paid an infinite price with His life for our sins debt.

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No its not, its because if you knew Him you would be resting in Him and not so concerned with sin its all you speak off, what ever happened to the work of christ, resting in Him, putting on His rightousness, its always being about your works and none of His. Than you insist you keep the law, but we know you dont so that is a lie straight form you know who since he is the father of them, and than you epcect us to forgoe the freedom of grace so we can come under the condenation of teh law which you would love to impose upon all men so than none wotld be saved, for it has never saved anyone.Not one.

How do you know that the voice you are hearing is from God?

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Joh_10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Joh_10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

As I said if you knew Him you would know.

1st John 2.3 We know we know Him if we keep His commandments
1st John5.3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments, and they are not burdensome
1st John 2.4 those who say they know Him and keep not His commandments are LIARS and the truth is not in them.

Phoneman777 said:

How do you know that the voice you are hearing is from God?

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Well, are you seeking God? You know the commandments (edit--lol; just read post 217). And even though we are trapped, completely, in Law now, you can see the end, already, of claiming to somehow be supreme, be better than others, because you can justify that God is on your side, and somehow not on some other side, that you have separated yourself from. We live in an Empire in Decadence, stage 5, so the examples that we can apply to our personal walk are written on the world stage, which of course you are free to misinterpret according to your personal bias, if you are invested in the world in some way; if you trust a military to protect you ("so we don't have to sacrifice," i mean there it is, right in your songs), or even a doctor to keep you healthy, or an economy to keep you housed and fed, then this trust is going to be abused, just count on it, and you are going to be dependent upon a fear/scarcity model, just like the rest of the sea around you, and you are most likely willing to defend it to the death, too, convinced that God wants you to defend a border, or maintain a lifestyle, or drone bomb people you have never met and have nothing against, on the other side of the planet. This voice is from God; "I will harden their hearts." And the end of this is plainly written, too; "Your worst fears will come upon you."

So, having life and death set before us, and choosing death, is also hearing the voice of God, Who plainly tells us that the choice is ours to make. The hearing you ask about comes by the Word, and It is of course very near to you, and one would think that the choice would be a no-brainer, but hating your life is not the intuitive choice that we make, is it? It is a very hard choice, to even hear God. We build enormous edifices, Insurance, Social Security, Mutually Assured Destruction, all so that we don't have to sacrifice, right? So that we don't have to listen to God, or even try to hear Him. And we do this enthusiastically, because it seems like God would approve, so we use our knowledge to construct edifices and become righteous and know things, forgetting that Christ came for the sinners, not the righteous. If you have insurance, see, you bought it out of fear, and not trusting God, as weird as that may seem to you or someone else right now, and so you now you have insurance, and you do not need God anymore; and God is going to respect this choice.

I pick on insurance, because i used to sell it, but like 90% of the planet is not insured, and they do fine; they're actually outliving us now, in many of those places.

So anyway, i don't guess i answered your Q very well; i know what you are asking, and i guess my answer is that i don't know, lol, because the answer is different depending upon who you talk to. "There is a way that seems right to a man, that ends in death." How does one avoid this, and come to hear and obey God, rather than abuse God to justify themselves and their way of life? Unfortunately all of the answers i might give end up being kind of condemning, at least to most people.

I mean, if you are a Christian, say you are a Christian, i might ask you about your experience walking out Christ's first instructions to those He "sent," the Twelve--if you say you are an Apostle of Christ. How did that go for you? Did you physically do it, or did you accomplish this more as a spiritual exercise, wherein you can at least confidently employ and identify all of the relevant symbology...or did you even do it at all? Have you even attempted it as a thought exercise? Because i already know you have never heard a sermon on it, of course, not in a Christian church, in america. For reasons that are now kind of apparent, i guess; the models are mutually exclusive.

So, i don't mean to be condemning people who are doing their best to seek God, and going to some congregation somewhere because that is the socially accepted thing to do; but nonetheless i can read, right in Matt or Luke, about Christ sending out the 12, or even the 70, which we shy away from, i guess because we do not see what we are reading having application to us, we don't see any demons coming out of people, a la miraculously, like the picture our mind gives us when we read that, and so we don't take that first step. So i guess that is how you know--by getting hearing.

You could, alternately, ask some little kid what to do about a given situation, and do what they tell you, no matter what. Lol. Brings up interesting reflections of "hate your life" and "We don't want to hear Him again; let Him talk to you, and you tell us." Huh? Lol. Have a good day.

heretoeternity said:

1st John 2.3 We know we know Him if we keep His commandments
1st John5.3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments, and they are not burdensome
1st John 2.4 those who say they know Him and keep not His commandments are LIARS and the truth is not in them.

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cool, now we only lack one thing, most likely, and i think this is what mjr is saying, most likely, because we are all aware that keeping the commandments is not sufficient, too. It will have you in hell, and you can just go visit California anytime you start disbelieving this, for a stark lesson in the end of the Law, the results. So, you gotta have both. This is what is meant by "rejoining the broken stick" i guess.

mjrhealth said:

No its not, its because if you knew Him you would be resting in Him and not so concerned with sin its all you speak off, what ever happened to the work of christ, resting in Him, putting on His rightousness, its always being about your works and none of His. Than you insist you keep the law, but we know you dont so that is a lie straight form you know who since he is the father of them, and than you epcect us to forgoe the freedom of grace so we can come under the condenation of teh law which you would love to impose upon all men so than none wotld be saved, for it has never saved anyone.Not one.

Joh_10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Joh_10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

As I said if you knew Him you would know.

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You don't love Jesus because you yourself admit that you freely do those things which made it necessary to suffer and die an unspeakable death on the Cross. Sin is your master, not God. Accusing those of us who hate sin for what it did to Jesus as equally guilty as YOU will not deliver you in the Day of Judgment, friend. Turn from you sin NOW and by God's grace and help become an overcomer like me and all those who will be in the Kingdom.