When in Revelation the Rapture will occur

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[SIZE=medium]A lot of Christian people believe that there will be a "pre-tribulation rapture”, that is: [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]they believe that before the beast of Revelation takes over, makes war on the saints, and demands his mark on each person's body, all Christians will be "raptured".[/SIZE] [SIZE=medium]The word rapture and the idea of a removal of living people to heaven is not in the Bible. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]The Bible does not teach a pre-tribulation rapture. It teaches tribulation. Because these people believe that they will not be here for the tribulation, they are not spiritually or physically preparing themselves, or their children, for what is to come. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]They cannot see what is happening before their very eyes. They are so locked into deception that they cannot see nor hear. Not only are they deceived, they condemn anyone who does not believe in a pretribulation rapture. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]The nature of deception is that you really believe what is false and that you disbelieve what is true. The only way that someone can come out of deception is if they really love the truth. If someone truly loves the scriptures, he will change his beliefs to conform to the scriptures when he sees that he is wrong. Unfortunately, most people feel that they have too much to lose by changing their false belief system. What if a dispensationalist preacher accepted the truth that he has been preaching a lie? Do you think his preacher friends will congratulate him for leaving deception? Do you think his dispensationalist congregation [/SIZE] [SIZE=medium]will be happy with him? There is a good chance that he will lose his place and position. Because many love the praise of men more than the praise of God, they will stay in deception rather lose their position or standing in their community. [/SIZE][SIZE=medium]They cannot even afford to think that their beliefs may be wrong[/SIZE][SIZE=medium]. You have to really love the truth to run this race.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Dispensationalism and the rapture is a heresy taught all across the face of the earth in "Bible" colleges and seminaries. It is preached and taught from pulpits, in books, and videos. If you go to a dispensationalist church, the people may hand you an armload of books to read about dispensationalist doctrines. They will invite you to sit through their biased Bible studies and maybe have you watch dispensationalist teachers on videos or in conferences. They will use all kinds of sophistry in their sermons. They will take scriptures out of context and make them infer a meaning that simply isn’t there. They will say that you are not a "Bible-believer" if you refuse to believe in dispensationalism. They will also tell you that you have to, "rightly divide the word of truth" as if the scriptures will lead you to dispensationalist conclusions. Then they may send more books home with you to read. If you remain unconvinced, they may berate you, and maybe even call you a heretic and will consign you to the hell that is to come onto the earth. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]All this is really sad, because the truth of God’s Plans for His people, are for their wellbeing and He is ready to pour out His blessings upon every Christian who stands firm in their faith during the testing time to come. [/SIZE]
 
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just like when i got in a fight because somebody told me that daddy put his penis in mommy, and i knew, for a fact, that mommy ate a brownie, and then a baby grew in her tummy.
how many eggs did the chicken lay on Tuesday.
 

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so the analogy of a little kid being utterly convinced of something that was not true is opaque to you iow?
by the wind translation. how it moves west in the analogy.
 

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The bible says that the Jesus comes in plain ordinary times... Likened to a thief in the night... Likened into the days of Noah and the days of Lot... One day normality... The next day destruction!

Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. - Revelation 16:15
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. - Matthew 24:44
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. - Luke 12:40

if this was post or mid trib then this event would rather be well announced. But since it is pre-trib then it comes upon us in ordinary times, in times unexpected, in which we think not. Therefore the Christ tells us to keep our garments, lest we be surprised when our end time predictions fail us!
 

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The 'coming' of the Lord on the many prophesied Day of Destruction, is not the Return of Jesus, nor is it a rapture removal of anyone to heaven.
The Return will be an event that those who remain alive at that time will know exactly to the day it will happen. Simply allow 1260 days after the Temple is desecrated by the leader of the One World Govt.
On the Lord's terrible Day of vengeance and wrath, He is not seen, Psalms 11:4-6 puts it very well. Amos 1, as well says the Lord will send fire....

On that sudden and shocking Day, we are told what to do: to call upon the Lord for His protection. Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21 Then we Christians look forward to the great promises of God to His people to come to pass.
 

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keras said:
[SIZE=medium]A lot of Christian people believe that there will be a "pre-tribulation rapture”, that is: [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]they believe that before the beast of Revelation takes over, makes war on the saints, and demands his mark on each person's body, all Christians will be "raptured".[/SIZE] [SIZE=medium]The word rapture and the idea of a removal of living people to heaven is not in the Bible. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]The Bible does not teach a pre-tribulation rapture. It teaches tribulation. Because these people believe that they will not be here for the tribulation, they are not spiritually or physically preparing themselves, or their children, for what is to come. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]They cannot see what is happening before their very eyes. They are so locked into deception that they cannot see nor hear. Not only are they deceived, they condemn anyone who does not believe in a pretribulation rapture. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]The nature of deception is that you really believe what is false and that you disbelieve what is true. The only way that someone can come out of deception is if they really love the truth. If someone truly loves the scriptures, he will change his beliefs to conform to the scriptures when he sees that he is wrong. Unfortunately, most people feel that they have too much to lose by changing their false belief system. What if a dispensationalist preacher accepted the truth that he has been preaching a lie? Do you think his preacher friends will congratulate him for leaving deception? Do you think his dispensationalist congregation [/SIZE] [SIZE=medium]will be happy with him? There is a good chance that he will lose his place and position. Because many love the praise of men more than the praise of God, they will stay in deception rather lose their position or standing in their community. [/SIZE][SIZE=medium]They cannot even afford to think that their beliefs may be wrong[/SIZE][SIZE=medium]. You have to really love the truth to run this race.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Dispensationalism and the rapture is a heresy taught all across the face of the earth in "Bible" colleges and seminaries. It is preached and taught from pulpits, in books, and videos. If you go to a dispensationalist church, the people may hand you an armload of books to read about dispensationalist doctrines. They will invite you to sit through their biased Bible studies and maybe have you watch dispensationalist teachers on videos or in conferences. They will use all kinds of sophistry in their sermons. They will take scriptures out of context and make them infer a meaning that simply isn’t there. They will say that you are not a "Bible-believer" if you refuse to believe in dispensationalism. They will also tell you that you have to, "rightly divide the word of truth" as if the scriptures will lead you to dispensationalist conclusions. Then they may send more books home with you to read. If you remain unconvinced, they may berate you, and maybe even call you a heretic and will consign you to the hell that is to come onto the earth. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]All this is really sad, because the truth of God’s Plans for His people, are for their wellbeing and He is ready to pour out His blessings upon every Christian who stands firm in their faith during the testing time to come. [/SIZE]
much of what you say is true. i remain unconvinced that there will be no pretrib or midrib. i believe one of these to has to happen before the great trib takes place. also i have heard a version where the tribulations of life are mixed in with what happens in the great trib. i am not sure on your stance but i would like to hear it. do you have it posted somewhere? you seem pretty sensible and open. if you can remain so i would like to discuss your version.

God bless
 

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7angels said:
much of what you say is true. i remain unconvinced that there will be no pretrib or midrib. i believe one of these to has to happen before the great trib takes place. also i have heard a version where the tribulations of life are mixed in with what happens in the great trib. i am not sure on your stance but i would like to hear it. do you have it posted somewhere? you seem pretty sensible and open. if you can remain so i would like to discuss your version.

God bless
Thank you.
During the Great Trib of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls that happens in the last 3 1/2 years before Jesus Returns, those Christians who kept their faith against the Anti-Christ, Daniel 11:32, will be taken to a place of safety on earth. Rev 12:14
Take a look at all my articles on Bible prophecy and more, free at: logostelos.info
 

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if you want to discuss a subject you are going to have to tell me the subject and where i can read it in your articles. it is too long to try and find it. also so far as i have read your scriptures are good but you make a lot of assumptions. so please tell me where to start and then i can see if your assumptions are probable or not.

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7angels said:
if you want to discuss a subject you are going to have to tell me the subject and where i can read it in your articles. it is too long to try and find it. also so far as i have read your scriptures are good but you make a lot of assumptions. so please tell me where to start and then i can see if your assumptions are probable or not.

God bless
Well, the Bible has over 1000 pages. It does take effort to ascertain the truth, because Paul warned us that false teachers will fool many. 2 Timothy 4:3-4
So the reality is, we each must carefully study the Prophetic Word for the truth of God's plans for our future.
But what I have done on my website, is write out the prophesies in and easy to read format and I use other scripture, plus modern knowledge to help explain them. All the information is there, in our Bibles and what is not Written, but promoted by people you may think are sincere, is another Gospel.
 

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But what I have done on my website, is write out the prophesies in and easy to read format and I use other scripture, plus modern knowledge to help explain them. All the information is there, in our Bibles and what is not Written, but promoted by people you may think are sincere, is another Gospel.

just as you asked me to be open minded remember that you too have to be open minded also. from what you posted above it sounds like you want other to listen to you but you have no intention of listening to others open minded. so i will give this a try a see how it goes. we will start with your logos telos chapter one since you don't want to come up with a subject yourself.

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God had a dilemma. He couldn't simply wipe out those beings that He had created, because as a perfect and righteous God, to arbitrarily destroy them would not prove His just sentence against them.
What was required were witnesses - intelligent, unbiased and independent jurors to sit at this trial of Lucifer and his followers, so that the defendants could not say to God- you are unjust. you quote Job 34:10-12.

​first you verses you listed are not for proving that witnesses are necessary but prove that witnesses are not necessary because of who God is. also where do you get your assumption from that God needed witnesses to prove that He was unjust which is why satan and his followers were let loose on earth?

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And so, the first civilization gradually fell into worse and worse sin, until God wiped them out with a great flood, saving only one family.

do you understand why only God wiped them out with flood? it was not just because of their sins because scripture tells us that we are more evil now then any previous generation and we are not wiped out. and God is a God who is the same yesterday, today, and forever. so if He did it once He would do it again if that were the case. so again what was the main issue God had against those of noah's time?

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according to Bible prophesy, at the point of attack against Israel, God will intervene with a Coronal Mass Ejection (solar flare) that will affect the world, but will particularly devastate all the Middle East region. Isaiah 30:26a, Zephaniah 3:8.

​again your scriptures say nothing about a solar flare. you are trying to make scripture say something that it does not say. also your scriptures say nothing about the middle east but of the whole world. again there is a lot of assumptions going on.

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It is clear, from the graphic descriptions, that this will be a terrible devastation and the result will virtually depopulate the entire Middle East. Ezekiel 30:1-5.

your scriptures say nothing about the middle east. if you look up the countries they are in africa not the middle east. again you assumptions without facts.

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Many prophecies tell of the final judgement of Judah. Jeremiah 7:20 I will pour out My anger on Judah, man and beast, trees and crops, they will burn unquenched.

no scripture read in any translation says judah but it says upon this place. please don't add words in scripture.

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Jerusalem and the cities in Northern Israel will not be destroyed.

where does it say this in scripture?

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Note that the Lord will make Himself known to His righteous people, and to the world, but not by His presence until His Return in glory at the commencement of His Millennial reign.

again where do you come up with this assumption? there is no scriptural proof listed.

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This tremendous defeat of a very large and well equipped modern army, will have dramatic repercussions. On top of the already huge disruptions caused by the previous worldwide devastation - food and oil shortages, economic crisis, refugee problems, etc. The world's leaders will meet and the most logical way to address all the issues, is to form a One World government. Daniel 7:23-24, Revelation 17:12-13.

where do you come to this conclusion? your scriptures point to the antichrist and his reign. either you are making assumptions again on how we get to the one world government and the posting scripture about the one world government but nothing to support your conclusions up to that point.

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Meanwhile, in Jerusalem, construction of the Third Temple will be completed. Zech. 6:15.

where are you getting your scriptures from? this scripture is not referring to end time temple that i see.

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Twelve thousand missionaries will be selected from each tribe of Israel, a total of 144,000 and they will go out in pairs to every people group in the world to preach the gospel of God's Kingdom to come. The precursor to this is in Luke 10:1-20. Isaiah 66:19, Revelation 7:3-8, Isaiah 49:6.

​again your scriptures do not say what you are trying to imply. you assume that since Jesuspent out His disciples that means the 144k were going to do the same thing.

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After 3½ years, the world leader will be assassinated, but his body will be taken over by Lucifer. Rev. 13:3-4.

rev 13:3-4 say nothing about the body being taken over by satan.

sorry i am stopping here for now. until you can prove your points i am not going further. there are just too many assumptions made without actual proof that what you say is right. i look forward to seeing you replies. remember that we are supposed to look at this open mindedly so don't think that i am not open minded because i am showing you where your points are weak. i am not a new believer who will be swayed by doctrine very easily.

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Well, a real seeker of the truth, vey refreshing!

7angels said:
just as you asked me to be open minded remember that you too have to be open minded also. from what you posted above it sounds like you want other to listen to you but you have no intention of listening to others open minded. so i will give this a try a see how it goes. we will start with your logos telos chapter one since you don't want to come up with a subject yourself.

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God had a dilemma. He couldn't simply wipe out those beings that He had created, because as a perfect and righteous God, to arbitrarily destroy them would not prove His just sentence against them.
What was required were witnesses - intelligent, unbiased and independent jurors to sit at this trial of Lucifer and his followers, so that the defendants could not say to God- you are unjust. you quote Job 34:10-12.
My thesis is not a Biblical exposition, but a reasoned story of what it all about, why things are as they are, as I see it.
We are God's witnesses, Isaiah 43:10 to the world of Jesus Salvation and as Daniel 7:9-10 says; millions will be in attendance.

do you understand why only God wiped them out with flood? it was not just because of their sins because scripture tells us that we are more evil now then any previous generation and we are not wiped out. and God is a God who is the same yesterday, today, and forever. so if He did it once He would do it again if that were the case. so again what was the main issue God had against those of noah's time?
Jesus said: as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be when I come again. [to judge the world, Psalm 110:5-6] and 2 Peter 3:1-7 says this time He will punish with fire. The reason He will do this is because people today mostly deny their Creator.

again your scriptures say nothing about a solar flare. you are trying to make scripture say something that it does not say. also your scriptures say nothing about the middle east but of the whole world. again there is a lot of assumptions going on.
Isaiah 30:26 can only be explained by an explosion of the sun; a CME flare. Confirmed by Malachi 4:1, Psalms 50:1-3 and all the other prophesies about the sudden and devastating Day of fire, earthquakes, storms and tsunamis, that can and will be literally caused by a massive CME. The ME will be most severely affected.
your scriptures say nothing about the middle east. if you look up the countries they are in africa not the middle east. again you assumptions without facts.
The half of the world facing the sun at midday ME time will be struck by the initial Electro-magnetic pulse. Zephaniah 2:4-6, Amos 1
no scripture read in any translation says judah but it says upon this place. please don't add words in scripture.
The Jer 7:20 verse is in the context, all about Judah.
where does it say this in scripture?
When all the Christian people go to live in all of the holy Land, we will occupy the vacated houses there. Isaiah 6:11, Isaiah 17:9, Isaiah 54:2-3, and others say we will rebuild on the ancient foundations, Jeremiah 30:18
again where do you come up with this assumption? there is no scriptural proof listed.
2 Thess 1:10 say Jesus will be revealed to His own and we see Him on Mt Zion, Rev 14:1, where He selects the 144,000 fore the vast multitude of Christians gathered there.
where do you come to this conclusion? your scriptures point to the antichrist and his reign. either you are making assumptions again on how we get to the one world government and the posting scripture about the one world government but nothing to support your conclusions up to that point.
Yes, an OWG will happen, maybe before the Gog/Magog attack and destruction. But we Christians won't belong to it, in our new nation of Beulah. Isaiah 62:1-5 that is why the Anti-Christ come to us and makes a 7 year peace treaty.
where are you getting your scriptures from? this scripture is not referring to end time temple that i see.
Many prophesies say there will be a new Temple. Ezekiel 40 to 48 details it and Paul makes it clear in 2 Thess. 2:4
again your scriptures do not say what you are trying to imply. you assume that since Jesuspent out His disciples that means the 144k were going to do the same thing.
Revelation 14:6-7 says it is angels who proclaim the Gospel of the coming Kingdom, but that would terrify people and we know it must be the 144k from Isaiah 66:19 and Isaiah 49:6 says it is His people who are His Light to the nations and they proclaim His salvation to the ends of the earth.
rev 13:3-4 say nothing about the body being taken over by satan.
It does, actually. The leader of the OWG receives a mortal would, is killed in fact. The 'dragon' that is Satan, gives him power, takes him over and then goes on the attack and conquer God's holy people, the inhabitants of Beulah, Zechariah 14:1-2 This triggers the Great Trib that lasts for 3 1/2 years, but we see in Rev 12:6-17, that those who keep their faith are taken to a place of safety on earth. Daniel 11:32

I am happy that you question what I have presented, so many are simply not interested in Bible prophecy, or are fixed in a belief that is not supported scripturally. What will happen soon, is something so shocking that many will renounce God, it will be our test of faith. 1 Peter 4:12
But knowing the truth of God's plans, is a great comfort and we Bible believers should be aware of it all. It's all as Written and the prophesies make a coherent and logical sequence, leading up to the glorious Day that Jesus Returns for His Millennium reign and then Eternity with God dwelling on earth. Rev 21
 

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My thesis is not a Biblical exposition, but a reasoned story of what it all about, why things are as they are, as I see it.
We are God's witnesses, Isaiah 43:10 to the world of Jesus Salvation and as Daniel 7:9-10 says; millions will be in attendance.

i am one that has problem understanding bible prophesy so if i say i cannot see that verse meaning what you say it does then you will have to explain why it does so i can understand it too. but i am a person that believes in the bible and in what it says. just so you know i don't go by what others think the bible is saying but what does it actually say. so feel free to try and persuade me but it had better be biblical.

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Jesus said: as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be when I come again. [to judge the world, Psalm 110:5-6] and 2 Peter 3:1-7 says this time He will punish with fire. The reason He will do this is because people today mostly deny their Creator.
[size=NaN]first according to scripture Jesus came to save the world not judge it. He will judge the world but that is not why He came. if you are interested God destroyed those of noah's time because the bloodlines were between angels and humans were being mixed and God needed Jesus to be born through human descendants and not angel blood(read enoch for proof). [/size]

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Isaiah 30:26 can only be explained by an explosion of the sun; a CME flare. Confirmed by Malachi 4:1, Psalms 50:1-3 and all the other prophesies about the sudden and devastating Day of fire, earthquakes, storms and tsunamis, that can and will be literally caused by a massive CME. The ME will be most severely affected.
i can understand where you believe they may be referring to a solar flare but don't get close minded because that can cause you to be narrow minded and miss out on truth. just because that is all you can think of does not make it absolute truth.
your scriptures say nothing about the middle east. if you look up the countries they are in africa not the middle east. again you assumptions without facts.
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The half of the world facing the sun at midday ME time will be struck by the initial Electro-magnetic pulse. Zephaniah 2:4-6, Amos 1
[size=NaN]again i think you are making assumptions. those verses could of already come to pass. i am not an expert on the old civilizations. but that fire could of been caused different ways also like it was attacked and the city got sacked. [/size]

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The Jer 7:20 verse is in the context, all about Judah.
sorry you were right. that verse is referring to judah in verse 2.

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When all the Christian people go to live in all of the holy Land, we will occupy the vacated houses there. Isaiah 6:11, Isaiah 17:9, Isaiah 54:2-3, and others say we will rebuild on the ancient foundations, Jeremiah 30:18
[size=NaN]​again i think you are reading into things. we are jews at heart but that is it. your scriptures are all assumptions you are taking the Word and twisting it to get it to say what you want it too. i am no old testament scholar so if you want me to believe that these scriptures are referring to today then you are going to have to tie them in better than you are doing. because my view is that the church will never live in the isreal of today unless it is in the new millennium.[/size]

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2 Thess 1:10 say Jesus will be revealed to His own and we see Him on Mt Zion, Rev 14:1, where He selects the 144,000 fore the vast multitude of Christians gathered there.
[size=NaN]​first it does not say Jesus will be revealed to His own but will receive glory and praise by all who believe. second rev 14:1 says 144000 are gathered it does not specify who they are in this verse. the biblesays what it means and means what it says so [/size][size=NaN]please don't assume.[/size]

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Yes, an OWG will happen, maybe before the Gog/Magog attack and destruction. But we Christians won't belong to it, in our new nation of Beulah. Isaiah 62:1-5 that is why the Anti-Christ come to us and makes a 7 year peace treaty.
are you a christian jew? the way you keep on referring back to how all christians will be in isreal and all that. the peace treaty will be with the jews and not the christians. i believe if it were the christians then that treaty would never take place because the bible says that christians are given the ability to to see through all the [/size][size=NaN]schemes of the devil. which is another reason why i believe the church will not be here for that event. [/size]

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Many prophesies say there will be a new Temple. Ezekiel 40 to 48 details it and Paul makes it clear in 2 Thess. 2:4
[size=NaN]again you make unfounded assumptions. remember we as christians are now new temples of God. there is also the temple in new jeruselum. there is also the one that the antichrist will sit and claim he is God(this temple is referred to by 2 this 2:4). what temple ez 40-48 is referring to i am not [/size][size=NaN]sure atm. [/size]

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Revelation 14:6-7 says it is angels who proclaim the Gospel of the coming Kingdom, but that would terrify people and we know it must be the 144k from Isaiah 66:19 and Isaiah 49:6 says it is His people who are His Light to the nations and they proclaim His salvation to the ends of the earth.
i heard that the 144k are sent throughout isreal during the great trib to bring people to the knowledge and power of Christ. but as you say the people who are His light is [/size][size=NaN]the church being referred too. who do you think is out now trying to preach the gospel to those that have never heard it before? do you think the 144k are doing it right now? do you think they have been doing it for the last 2000 years? no i doubt the ones being referred to are the 144k.[/size]

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It does, actually. The leader of the OWG receives a mortal would, is killed in fact. The 'dragon' that is Satan, gives him power, takes him over and then goes on the attack and conquer God's holy people, the inhabitants of Beulah, Zechariah 14:1-2 This triggers the Great Trib that lasts for 3 1/2 years, but we see in Rev 12:6-17, that those who keep their faith are taken to a place of safety on earth. Daniel 11:32
[size=NaN]you do know that there are 3 main enemies in rev and they are the prophet, antichrist/beast, and satan/dragon. you also know that they all 3 survive until the end of the great trib correct? if so then one cannot die. according to scripture [/size][size=NaN]One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was astonished and followed the beast[/size]. also feel free to explain where it says the devil took over the antichrist's body.

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[size=NaN]I am happy that you question what I have presented, so many are simply not interested in Bible prophecy, or are fixed in a belief that is not supported scripturally. What will happen soon, is something so shocking that many will renounce God, it will be our test of faith. [/size]1 Peter 4:12
But knowing the truth of God's plans, is a great comfort and we Bible believers should be aware of it all. It's all as Written and the prophesies make a coherent and logical sequence, leading up to the glorious Day that Jesus Returns for His Millennium reign and then Eternity with God dwelling on earth. Rev 21


yes you are right that everything happens as it is supposed to and will unfold as the correct time draws near.

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keras said:
Isaiah 30:26 can only be explained by an explosion of the sun; a CME flare.
LOL!
​How many times will keras trot this insane interpretation out?

 Isaiah 30:26 The light of the moon will be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun will be seven times brighter, like the light of seven days, on the day the Lord binds up the fracture of His people and heals the bruise He has inflicted.

So he presents "the truth" as he sees it, and on a day God heals the wounds He has caused to His people, the Jews, after the one 'seven' is over - keras wants to say that the sun explodes in an unprecedented coronal mass ejection and literally burns a third of the earth!

How is that interpretation supposed to help the healing process?

No, what we have is a time of healing, not wounding.

How many times has this been pointed out to keras? 20 or more?
​Has he ever learned? No.
​Will he ever change? No.
Can you ever trust him to interpret the Bible for you? Hardly.
 

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keras said:
Isaiah 30:26 can only be explained by an explosion of the sun; a CME flare.
A better summation of Isaiah 30:26 would be to say that the sun shines brightly on the day the Lord binds up the fracture of His people and heals the bruise He has inflicted.

The LAST thing it could EVER be would be to say that the sun EXPLODES - which would cause MORE HARM - which is incongruous with the healing the Lord effects on His people: the Jews.

We are not harmed by God at all. We are taken up at the Rapture and are safe in Heaven.
 

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The godless people are the ones harmed by the terrible Day of the Lord's fiery wrath. As described in Psalm 83 and in over 70 other prophesies.
Christians who call upon the Lord, standing firm in their faith, will be protected. The 'wounds' He will 'bind up' on that Day, are His rejection and dispersion of all His righteous people, now to be gathered and blessed.
Those who have believed the false rapture to heaven theory, may feel let down as they remain on earth and lose their faith.