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Hello to all, I'm here to learn, to understand why things are the way they are in the so called Bible believing-Christianity, specifically the contradicting Christian beliefs vs. the Bible??

I was brought up in a very conservative Christian denomination (girls/women wore head covering, no TV or radio, pray before AND after meals, etc.) yet our actions were very much contrary to what we professed.
I pray with all my heart that maybe I will find someone here who can give me a satisfactory answer other than the usual 'blind faith' acceptance, .. for example: "As far as I know, this is how it always been", .. which is OK as long as I have been provide evidence, .. right?

But then, if there is evidence, specifically Biblical evidence for the way we believe and do things, then that's not on blind faith, but faith that is based on evidence with substance. You know, the good ol' As It Was Written, so shall it be done, ..


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Ephesians 4:1 I, therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you to walk worthy of the calling with which you were called, 2 with all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love, 3 endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Again, I thank you all, and may God bless us all!
 

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Hi Odn!
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Glad to have you aboard!...looking forward to your posts
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Bless ya!
 

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Welcome Odn!

What your describing is hypocrisy in the church and it is not the way it is supposed to be. I believe many churches are falling apart due to this.
 

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lforrest said:
Welcome Odn!

What your describing is hypocrisy in the church and it is not the way it is supposed to be. I believe many churches are falling apart due to this.
Thank you all for the welcome, I truly pray this will be the start of a long positive relationship, after all, this is not just about having fun on a debating Forum, but it is to establish a relationship for an eternity, right?

You know, I have thought real hard and deep about eternity throughout all them years debating, .. about us Believers, Christians living together in eternity with God, .. always wondering if that was possible with so many different denominations/versions of Christian!? You know, like when we go to funerals, .. everyone seems to be going to heaven, even those who refused to turn to God in their lifetime, .. like my dear atheist friend/co worker who died a few years back. He was from a Catholic background who came to hate any mention of God, or the Bible, and he was truly a good and kind man. His reasoning was justified when he pointed out the difference what Jesus said, and what we Christians did instead.

Anyways, at his funeral his dear Catholic wife still sent him off to Heaven, having the Priest reassure everyone how he is up there with the Lord. But me knowing him (over 30 years) I know that he would have disagreed with everything the Priest said, ..

I have a request from all you Moderators, is it possible to have just me, and you moderators debate a touchy subject, like your "Statement of Faith" (which in MHO should not be a touchy subject)? That's the whole reason I would like to talk with you guys alone, so not to confuse other members on this Forum!

First, could you please explain to me how a Statement of Faith could be a closed case, that's like placing a bushel over our beliefs (This is what I believe, as long as you don't question it!)? Please forgive me, but doesn't that signify a weakness in faith? If our faith is built on the Bible, the Rock of Ages (Word of God) the Sword of the Spirit, .. what questioning, interrogation could shake that? Are we not to be the "light of the world", .. a "City on a hill", .. open to all and every means of interrogation even if it means to the death??

Just asking, since, .. as I mentioned my last Forum started to limit what we Christian Believer could say, and what we no longer could even mention, it related to the LGBT rights that is now protected by law. Calling it Homophobia that was coming from a hateful God, where any retaliation, even Bible quotes resulted in warnings, .. you know what I mean?

You all seem so intelligent, kind, sweet, but from what I read in your Statement of Faith, especially regarding the Deity of Christ resulting in a quick ban, .. well I'm not certain I can function (breath) where I have to be careful about "offending" non-Biblical human-doctrines, you know what I mean?

The JW's believe you have to call out the name Jehovah, or you blaspheme God.
The 7th D.A. say if I don't worship their Sabbath-god, i will go to hell
the Trinitarians say if I question their trinity-gods, I will be banned, .. etc and so on. If you are a Biblically grounded Debating sight, you should show that, I could see right off the bat you guys know your Bible! So what Principalities, or Powers of Darkness could go against Gods Word?

1 Kings 18:21 [Links removed]
If the Lord is God, follow Him, .. if the RCC deified man Jesus to godhood (a deity who resides in the supernatural realm) is God, follow him, as for me and my house, there is only One God, and One Mediator between God and man, our Lord Jesus Christ.

Thanks, and may the Lord bless us all!
 
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Odn said:
Thank you all for the welcome, I truly pray this will be the start of a long positive relationship, after all, this is not just about having fun on a debating Forum, but it is to establish a relationship for an eternity, right?

You know, I have thought real hard and deep about eternity throughout all them years debating, .. about us Believers, Christians living together in eternity with God, .. always wondering if that was possible with so many different denominations/versions of Christian!? You know, like when we go to funerals, .. everyone seems to be going to heaven, even those who refused to turn to God in their lifetime, .. like my dear atheist friend/co worker who died a few years back. He was from a Catholic background who came to hate any mention of God, or the Bible, and he was truly a good and kind man. His reasoning was justified when he pointed out the difference what Jesus said, and what we Christians did instead.

Anyways, at his funeral his dear Catholic wife still sent him off to Heaven, having the Priest reassure everyone how he is up there with the Lord. But me knowing him (over 30 years) I know that he would have disagreed with everything the Priest said, ..

I have a request from all you Moderators, is it possible to have just me, and you moderators debate a touchy subject, like your "Statement of Faith" (which in MHO should not be a touchy subject)? That's the whole reason I would like to talk with you guys alone, so not to confuse other members on this Forum!

First, could you please explain to me how a Statement of Faith could be a closed case, that's like placing a bushel over our beliefs (This is what I believe, as long as you don't question it!)? Please forgive me, but doesn't that signify a weakness in faith? If our faith is built on the Bible, the Rock of Ages (Word of God) the Sword of the Spirit, .. what questioning, interrogation could shake that? Are we not to be the "light of the world", .. a "City on a hill", .. open to all and every means of interrogation even if it means to the death??

Just asking, since, .. as I mentioned my last Forum started to limit what we Christian Believer could say, and what we no longer could even mention, it related to the LGBT rights that is now protected by law. Calling it Homophobia that was coming from a hateful God, where any retaliation, even Bible quotes resulted in warnings, .. you know what I mean?

You all seem so intelligent, kind, sweet, but from what I read in your Statement of Faith, especially regarding the Deity of Christ resulting in a quick ban, .. well I'm not certain I can function (breath) where I have to be careful about "offending" non-Biblical human-doctrines, you know what I mean?

The JW's believe you have to call out the name Jehovah, or you blaspheme God.
The 7th D.A. say if I don't worship their Sabbath-god, i will go to hell
the Trinitarians say if I question their trinity-gods, I will be banned, .. etc and so on. If you are a Biblically grounded Debating sight, you should show that, I could see right off the bat you guys know your Bible! So what Principalities, or Powers of Darkness could go against Gods Word?

1 Kings 18:21 [Links removed]
If the Lord is God, follow Him, .. if the RCC deified man Jesus to godhood (a deity who resides in the supernatural realm) is God, follow him, as for me and my house, there is only One God, and One Mediator between God and man, our Lord Jesus Christ.

Thanks, and may the Lord bless us all!
Love believes all things

Who says he knows does not yet know as he ought

ntmy :)
 

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Odn,

The purpose of the SOF isn't to decide who to ban, but to establish some common ground so you know where the mods and admins stand. Our own beliefs vary, the SOF is a reflection of only the doctrine we agree is essential. In so doing we have established some measure of determining orthodoxy of various subjects.

The discussion on the SOF was closed due to people with a theological axe to grind that resulted in fruitless discussion. The same thing has happened in other controversial topics.

Based on what you have stated I believe you would like to discuss the nature of God. I am aware of a few active members that do not believe in the Trinity. There were a number of discussions on this in the past. If you wish you can make a new one.
 
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Banning is done on a case by case basis. Users do not get banned on theology or doctrine alone.

Welcome to CyB!!!! God Bless!

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Hello and welcome! Feel free to post. Do not be shy at all! God bless! :wub: