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lforrest

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I believe that Jesus Is the son of God, confused about if I should prey to Jesus as God, or to God as God. I know they are one and the same, but people refer to them as if they are three different beings. I don't pray as often as I know I should, I want to but I just can't seem to get there. I use to pray more often, but to this day I've never seen any changes in the people I prayed for. My son is atheist, my other son Believes, but nothing more. I am separated for and hanging on to my faith, but wondering if I am even in the book. I truly feel God is their for me on many things, I can only say was an act of God. We never went hungry, even when it didn't look good, Things seem to always fall into place, except things I wanted most. I can't find a good Church close to me, it's either Catholic, Protestant, Or Baptist. I work for a beer company so baptist is out, and I am not sure what covenant the others have. I use to go to a very small nondenominational until it split up. With that said, I have asked Jesus to save me, and for forgiveness often, because I have many issues I am trying to control but failing, most of witch is my tongue. In short I'm a basket case trying to get out of the mud, but still hopeful.

Fasting is an easy way to "put your money where your mouth is," and let God know your serious. I recommend abstaining from whatever worldly things you can for a while. Consult your doctor first if you have medical issues, and lighten it accordingly. Fasting need not always be abstaining from food and water; my first fast was a Juice one. Some research may be in order first, that is on you to do.

God will still do what he wants, he is in charge. But he will do something to make it obvious he answered, even if he doesn't give exactly what you ask for.

And the person above me is wrong.
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Your son is likely just claiming "Atheist" as a rejection of either that or you, and the parable of the Vineyard Owner with Two Sons should be considered there imo
 

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I blame the collage my oldest son is attending for the his break down in belief. Because they teaching him, and manipulating their agenda with the courses they are there to teach. Because he see's them as much smarter than me, I'm the one who's wrong in he eyes.
 

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All the Baptists I know are easy going people, and not overly against partaking of the odd beer, or glass of wine. I myself have wine each week at Shabbat, to take communion, but it's not a problem in my life. When it is a problem, you avoid it!
Yes They are very good people, but to join, you must make that oath to God, and I have read what happens to the people in the Bible who broke their oath. I just want to do right by him, and be in a place that Follows him according to the word. I truly don't believe it tells us anywhere that it's against God's will to drink, or participate in the distribution of alcohol. It do know it says to stay sober minded, to be always ready, or another part says if you must, have you not houses to stay in, John I believe.. Paraphrasing of course, but I could find them if you need me to, and quote it verbatim. I actually had one man, and he was the closest person to me in that church, tell me that use leads to abuse. Maybe so, But I still enjoy a drink or two responsibly, and make a decent living. Am I wrong in this thinking?
 

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Thank you, it's has been uplifting, and eye opening to read this. It's been a while since I felt any amount joy in side, thank you again.

Oh @KLeft, I know how that can be...the only time I seem to have any real joy is when I lead people to Christ through the gospel message. So now I ask God to send me on exploits for him, to help me to be available when he wants me to speak to others around me when the opportunity arises and to use me for his kingdom and glory. It's been awesome! xox
 

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fwiw it sounds to me like you are doing fine. The confusion about Trinity likely exists because Trinity is just a doctrine of men anyway, mostly used to divide people; you don't have to accept other peoples' concepts about God, even if they wear a tie and have charisma and signed a Contract for Jesus, ok. 65 million people have left that system already, where prayer is defined as something you do on your knees with your eyes closed, and there is a list if boxes to check to consider yourself saved. Those are not "church" anyway, you are the Church.

Your son is likely just claiming "Atheist" as a rejection of either that or you, and the parable of the Vineyard Owner with Two Sons should be considered there imo. If you do what God does, and just ignore or even signal acceptance when you hear "atheist," rather than offering resistance, recognizing that people say things for lots of reasons, but they only do things they believe in, then a lot of your anxiety about effecting change will likely go away. You are a father, so of course your behavior has an effect on your kids. You are seeking God, and have quite naturally gone to the societally accepted place to further that search, and i suggest that your kids maybe just detect some hypocrisy that you are blind to there.

i know this is hard to contemplate, having been raised to believe that God is wherever "church" was, but even your syntax, your lingo, ends up framing God in a religious perspective, rather than maybe a more daily-use or moral one, and i can tell you that the people that have never told you about the baptism of fire--because they do not even know what it is--are not the best ones to be emulating in your speech anyway. God has no interest in a religious relationship with you.


see, you go there to talk about sin and death, right, and what you life will be like someday, after you die; and this does not comport with God's plan, to bring heaven to earth, with you as the Body of Christ. So there is a basic misunderstanding, mostly centered around a bad definition of "eternal life" imo, which i'm not sure but i'm currently thinking God means that collectively, whereas we are of course absorbed with where we, specifically, will land after we die; almost surely a moot point, that can only end in judgement of others, which imo is why that is presented in the way it is in the Book.

Basket Case in the mud is a pretty good perspective imo--if you get much better, see, then you will be no use to God. You start being assured that you know things--contrary to Scripture--and might even start believing you can tell other people how to get saved, lol.

how to get saved????