Does God heal today

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Again, how about a broken arm? If you heal someone's broken arm instantly, and that person doesn't "keep their healing by faith", as 7Angels said, then that arm must become re-broken because of that person's lack of faith.

So, does this happen in Scripture? Who made up these rules?

Remember, a person is "responsible to keep their healing by faith".
have you ever heard the saying "i will believe it when i see it." physical healings you can see are a lot easier to believe in then those you cannot see. coming back from the dead is really hard to not believe in since you were dead and now you are standing and breathing. but what is hard to believe in are things like arthritis or pain relief or mental problems like depression and ect. to my experience once you have prayed for healings, many times the symptoms of the problem you had come back and if you accept that the healing did not work then your previous problem will return. why do you think the pastors and/or evangelists try and get names and testimonies of people who were healed in the service? one of the reasons is to help those who were healed to keep their healings.

not to gloat but i have grown out arms and legs, cured sickness and diseases, healed back problems, and ect. there are still many things i want to do. for example raise a dead person. i know people who have raised people from the dead but i am not one of them.

i have seen people who were in wheelchairs get up and walk only to have preachers of other denominations call what happened satanic and that person believed them and ended up back in their wheelchair after being healed. i have seen tumors taken off people and because that person has suffered with tumors so long they could not believe it and we could hear them saying "i cannot believe it is gone" and watched as it came back. these two examples are documented cases that i just gave you as brief explanation of what happened. have yu ever noticed how miracles happen a lot more often in 3rd world countries then here in the usa? it is because in 3rd world nations if they do not believe they end up suffering or even dying. they cannot afford going to a doctor to be seen so they either believe or suffer and die. when they believe great miracles occur.

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seeing is great. But when you read that document and understand who you are in Christ. When you understand that it is YOU God wants to use to rasie the dead and all you have to do is believe. Clearly the majority of the Christian Church does not even belive in healing and totally misunderstands toungs, No wonder they dont see it. As I said seeing it is great. But the amount of people who said to me than you for healing me, Because ethey have no understanding of God or what God wants ( Worlds the same as the church really) You get to tell them and now they are prepared to listen. Becaus ethey just saw something that only God could do it. It makes sharing so much more fun. I spend a lot of my time undoing what the church has taught. Church says say this prayer. I say dont say anything until you know what is expected of you. Sign up if your ready to lay it all down. Christians are everywhere saying belive in Jesus or your going to hell. Good news? And then they think well God I did my part. They dont except it aint my fault. Man these Christians doing that are so far of Jesus it makes me wonder if they are saved and no the good news. Any way I saw about 60 people healed now that I prayed for. No one in here or on this planet will ever chnage my mind. When I see people willfully ignorant I totally get it. God said they will be and I see them daily. In here and on the streets. You are all responcible for this message to except it or reject it. But at the very least YOU ARE RESPONCIBLE TO READ IT. And then to prove it wrong. But you who refuse to read it are cowards. When Jesus says I never knew you. Not the time when He said depart from me. The one where He says "I never knew you." But You are still going in to heaven. He is saying I never got to spend time with you open your mind and share what I dione for you. and Now you aint got any testinoys to share with us. You arguded in forums akll you life you argued with Christians all your life on the streets and in the churches, about who was right and wrong and you were wrong. You actully pushed people away from MY good news and caused some to go to hell. But I love you come into my rest and receive your reward. I love you you and I cant do anything about those you pushed away.
 

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Sword, why don't you develop some video or other testimony of your healing prowess, a la Edgar Cayce perhaps, if that is your gift?
Its not my gift its scripture itwhat the commision is. its what we all should be doing. I have no interest in making videos or writing books the books already written. This is for all. I have no prowess. I have the same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead living in me. same as all Christains.
 

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Sword...thanks for the Dan Mohler info..I will indeed look him up. :)

Have you managed to share much with people ( sick or disabled strangers) one to one?
My husband does all the time..he is often walking up to strangers in the Mall's and asking if he can pray. He only one time ever bumped into a person again later...who told him he had been healed.
( but I have forgotten of what) I always 'intend to' but I must admit to my shame, that whenever I am out shopping , my nose is in my shopping list and I want to shop and get out of there!! Ha!
Why does it seem easier to pray for someone who needs healing than to pray and see someone born again! ;)
 
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Promises, promises. I got much better things to do than read 20 pages you endorse. Or, even 1 for that matter.

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20 pages of someone else's opinion.

That's the problem with Christians today. Instead of studying the Word of God, they spend a bulk of their time studying the word of man. When someone uses 20 pages to answer a simple question like "Does God heal today", it tells me that the writer of the article likes to see his words in print.

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This is from the 2nd chapter of 1Peter. It says nothing about physical healing.

So what healing is it. Now before you try and make it fit. Remember this is from two places not one they both mean exactly the same thing.

Isaiah 53.5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
1 Peter 2:24
24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
So you tell us what does in mean if it is not physical?
And also tell us why was His body brocked what was that for? It wasnt sacrifise. The cross was that.
 

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20 pages of someone else's opinion.

That's the problem with Christians today. Instead of studying the Word of God, they spend a bulk of their time studying the word of man. When someone uses 20 pages to answer a simple question like "Does God heal today", it tells me that the writer of the article likes to see his words in print.

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Well you seem to be sruggling. The doc is not for me but you. I already know healing and see healing but you dont. ou think you have something to teach me and you never seen healing from your hand? Where is all these scriptures you have. where do I need to learn. I kept this short for your sake.
 

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Well you seem to be sruggling. The doc is not for me but you. I already know healing and see healing but you dont. ou think you have something to teach me and you never seen healing from your hand? Where is all these scriptures you have. where do I need to learn. I kept this short for your sake.
Thanks for keeping it short. Appreciate it. I really have nothing to teach you because you seem to know everything. You have all the spiritual gifts. You're able to lay hands on the sick and injured and heal them of their afflictions. That's truly amazing. But I have one question. When was the last time you walked through a cancer ward and healed all the patients? If I was able to do what you claim to do, there would be no stopping me. I would empty every hospital in this country, starting with the children's cancer wards.
But anyway...

James 1
26 If anyone among you thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one’s religion is useless.


You might want to keep that in mind.
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So what healing is it. Now before you try and make it fit. Remember this is from two places not one they both mean exactly the same thing.

Isaiah 53.5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

1 Peter 2:24
24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
So you tell us what does in mean if it is not physical?
And also tell us why was His body brocked what was that for? It wasnt sacrifise. The cross was that.
The healing is spiritual.
 

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This is from the 2nd chapter of 1Peter. It says nothing about physical healing.

And how would you have received that piece of information when you were a 5 year old? When you were told by someone that God heals.

There's too much academia in today's world of theology, we really gotta relax & unwind our minds when it comes to Jesus stuff and believe like a little kid that through the power of the Holy Spirit anything is possible, because it really is.

God heals in today's world, both physically and spiritually, he even resurrects the dead, God can do anything, he has no limits to what he can do. The only limit are the limits people put on him.

Are you gonna tell God that you can't do it, or it's not possible, if God says to you to "Go lay hands on a man without arms and his arms will regrow."? Are you going to be saying the same thing about 1 Peter Chapter 2 to God. "But, God, it says nothing about *physical* healing" lol.

What about if God tells you, "You see that man over there who just got shot dead, go lay hands on him and he will rise from the dead."?

See we gotta stop limiting God, he can do anything.

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God heals in today's world, both physically and spiritually, he even resurrects the dead, God can do anything, he has no limits to what he can do. The only limit are the limits people put on him.

The sentence "The only limit are the limits people put on him." is false. You say (rightly) that God "can do anything, he has no limits to what he can do.", but you then limit him by saying people can limit God. Nope.
 

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The sentence "The only limit are the limits people put on him." is false. You say (rightly) that God "can do anything, he has no limits to what he can do.", but you then limit him by saying people can limit God. Nope.

I was speaking of doubt, but with faith God can do anything, there's no limits to what he can do.
 
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Thanks for keeping it short. Appreciate it. I really have nothing to teach you because you seem to know everything. You have all the spiritual gifts. You're able to lay hands on the sick and injured and heal them of their afflictions. That's truly amazing. But I have one question. When was the last time you walked through a cancer ward and healed all the patients? If I was able to do what you claim to do, there would be no stopping me. I would empty every hospital in this country, starting with the children's cancer wards.
But anyway...

James 1
26 If anyone among you thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one’s religion is useless.


You might want to keep that in mind.
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Now who is being rude? And you 60 years old.
One minute you say I have a lot to learn and your all back slapping and thanks for the approval of man.
And asking if I need anymore scripture to put me right., Now you have nothing to say becaue I know it all. I corrected your misquoting scripture and you cant argue with it. But now you checking out . Well do you agree or disagree? I am open to dicussion. You had shed loads od scripture to put me right and now you dont. Why are you looking for fault? Why cant you give glory to the Lord and thank Him someone is walking like He did? WEhy cant you just humble your selves and ask to walk like wise. why cant you just ask God is this guy is for real Lord will you just help me understand and walk also like Christ if that is what is for us Lord?
I had many question for you. and you never answerd them. Yet you have a question for me. Now you are calling me religious?
I walk in healing and I come her to share it with anyone who will listen. and you dont have ears to hear. Yet you sit ther judging me? You bring scripture out of context. You have no clue what covanant we are under. and you have a question for me.

You never layed hands on the sick in your puff and you have a question?.

I will answer your question if you answer mine. How many people have you layed hands on for healing of there body.
I did it twice today and saw to men healed today. Its not two oclock here yet. I dont care for title tattel. My mums fatter than your mum.
I came here to shaer what is available to all Christians. You are only bring down. I saw God is greeat and wants all healed you are fighting me saying Hes not that good. I come here and sayanyone can get involved you say no its not that good. Why cant you see God is that good . why are you calling me a liar? If you are not for me you are against me. You are not for me or what I am talking about. You cant debate with me so what do you want? And why are you coming against me and making false accusations? I dont get hurt I died to self a long time ago. I live for Christ. and people like you think I am being high minded, Its a fact and Christians dont like it.

So you having never in your life layed hands on the sick have the gaul to ask me if I ever went in to a cancer ward?
 

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The healing is spiritual.
man you have nothing much to say. the less you say the less trouble you will get into. But even that short statement is enough for me to work with and expose it as misleading.
What are you talking about healing is spiritual? and do you have scripture for it?
 

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The sentence "The only limit are the limits people put on him." is false. You say (rightly) that God "can do anything, he has no limits to what he can do.", but you then limit him by saying people can limit God. Nope.

God paid for healing and He has had a very poor return on it so far. Why becaue you and many like you dont believe God wants to use us to heal the sick. You are far to knowledgeable to read the document I posted that teaches all the scriptural facts on healing. So sickness will come to you and your family and you will rot in it as long as you surrender you right to satan, and the sickness he brings to you. you are such an easy target for him. You have nothing to defend you but Gods grace. It must be gauling for God hearing you all ask Him for something He already gave you. But you know better. God is very limited in a lot of thing because of you and your unbelief.
 

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I was speaking of doubt, but with faith God can do anything, there's no limits to what he can do.
Perfect and 100% correct. we limit God with our unbelief.
 
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I will answer your question if you answer mine. How many people have you layed hands on for healing of there body.
I did it twice today and saw to men healed today. Its not two oclock here yet. I dont care for title tattel. My mums fatter than your mum.
1 Corinthians 5
6 Your glorying is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?

James 4
16 But now you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil.

Proverbs 27
2 Let another man praise you, and not your own mouth;
A stranger, and not your own lips.

1 Corinthians 12
4 There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
5 There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord.
6 And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all.
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all:
8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit,
9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit,
10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.
11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.

1 Samuel 2
3 “Talk no more so very proudly;
Let no arrogance come from your mouth,
For the Lord is the God of knowledge;
And by Him actions are weighed.


To be continued...if need be...

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Why do you call sharing The gospel that most people missed because the whole church has missed it. People can be healed and are not getting healerd cuase very few people know about it. I come in here try to shear it get rejected and and stand my ground. and that is arrogance ?
We know all the scripture you googled about arrogance. whats you point. where am I being arrogant for standing my ground. If fact you are not allowed to bedoing what you accused me of. So please contact the admin and show them where I broke the TOS rules???
You are talking nonsense. and again you seem to manage a one way conversation really good. You have many questions but fail to answer mine.
I understand why you avoid mine. It cool.

1 Corinthians 5
6 Your glorying is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?
So where did I glory myself in any of my posts in any thread any where on this site. let alone this thread????????????????????????????????

James 4
16 But now you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil.

Where did I as above boast?

Proverbs 272 Let another man praise you, and not your own mouth; A stranger, and not your own lips.
And again where did I praise myself any where on this site? I will require quotes for all of the false accusations you made.

1 Corinthians 12:4 There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
Whats this got to do with what Christ told you to do. Every single Christian that is??????

5 There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord.
And again what has this got to do with what Christ told you to do.


6 And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all.
And that is clear through the churches. But it has nothing to do with healing. healing is a gift for everyone. Its bought and paid for.
james even says if you are sick ( Because you shouldnt be) call the elders.

7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all:
The Holy Ghsot is given to all. and again so waht has that to do with what Christ told you to do. You are a believer yes? Believers will lay hands on the sick and they will recover. Not apostles not the specialy gifted believers.

8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit,
Yada yada we know all this is deflection.

9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit,
So me have thee gift of healing and it will be supernatureal. but for the majoirty they will walk in it and learn as they go.

10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.
same deal so what we know all this. But you were told to lay hands on the sick as you go.


11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.
So you ask Holy Ghost for any gift and He will give you it. Any thing you ask in my name I wil. I will I WILL give it to you.
But again you are still and the negative.

1 Samuel 2
3 “Talk no more so very proudly;Let no arrogance come from your mouth,For the Lord is the God of knowledge;And by Him actions are weighed.
Yep once again back up the false aligation with a quote for all to see and let them be judge.


To be continued...if need be....

Well I think you said this already with scripture if need be. Looking forward to replying to them.