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Faith is always honoured. even for a man in sin or out of sin. There is no scripture that comes agaisnt this.

Scripture telling us this??? Its not there dont waste your breath. You think God will hold a mans healing back because of the sin in another mans life. Not a chance.
James 1
6 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind.
7 For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;
8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

Psalm 66
18 If I regard iniquity in my heart,
The Lord will not hear.

John 9
31 Now we know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does His will, He hears him.



Will this do or do you require more proof that God has selective hearing?

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Wrong show me scripture please?





Faith is always honoured. even for a man in sin or out of sin. There is no scripture that comes agaisnt this.

Scripture telling us this??? Its not there dont waste your breath. You think God will hold a mans healing back because of the sin in another mans life. Not a chance.



The only thing that hinderd Jesus getting anyone healed was that they never came to Him.
Give the scriptures you think hinderd Jesus because of sin?


And how is that working for you so far. How many people have you lead to salvation through telling them that? The church has tried that a very long time and failed big time.

Sword, you don't know your bible well...

Proverbs 28:9
He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

Mark 6:
5And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.6And he marvelled because of their unbelief.

Matthew 13:
57And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house. 58And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.

Jesus told us to make disciples (those disciplined in the teachings of one's master) of all nations. You want people to obey one command and don't see that that command is a small fragment of a bigger picture.
 
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James 1
6 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind.
7 For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;
8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

Psalm 66
18 If I regard iniquity in my heart,
The Lord will not hear.

John 9
31 Now we know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does His will, He hears him.



Will this do or do you require more proof that God has selective hearing?

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Very good post/response Job.
 
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Sword, you don't know your bible well...
Well lets se shall we?

Proverbs 28:9
He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.
Are you under the law?? I cant say if you are or are not. But Chritians are NOT under the law.



Mark 6:
5And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.6And he marvelled because of their unbelief.
Because they laugh at Him never Trusted Him We know you. You are Mary and Joes son. You were even concived out of wed lock.
Are you saying Jesus could not get them healed because of sin~? It doesnt even mentiopn sin. We are talking about a man like me who is in some sort of sin lets say lust. You are sayimng God will not use me to heal the man. This scripture has nothing to do with there sin. Nothing. I asked you for a scripture that says God will not use a man if he is in sin.

Matthew 13:
57And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house. 58And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.
So because they did not belief in Him or go to Him He could not heal but a few. What you trying to say with this scripture? It has got nothing to do with what you claimed. God wont use a man in sin.

Jesus told us to make disciples (those disciplined in the teachings of one's master) of all nations. You want people to obey one command and don't see that that command is a small fragment of a bigger picture.
You dont know why Christ went to the wipping post. You have no clue why we break the body in communion. We take the wine for our sin and we btake the bread because of His body broken so your does not have to be. You are belittiling what Christ was marred for like NO other man ever. Beaten beyond recognition. What scrifice do you know of that ever got that? None ever. what was it for? Body brocken so yours doesnt need to be. By His stripes you are healed. Where did He get the stripes???? At the post. Not the cross.
 

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James 1
6 But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind.
7 For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;
8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

Yes indeed what this got to do with God not healing a man because of another mans sin???

Psalm 6618 If I regard iniquity in my heart, The Lord will not hear.


So in context who is talkin who is he talking to and when did he say it?????
This is not to the Christian again. This is old covanant.

On top of that when I pray for the sick I am not asking God to heal them. I am not even talking to God.
You are all patting each other on the backs and are clueless in healing. and scripture come to that.


John 9 31 Now we know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does His will, He hears him.
See here again we have another misquoted scripture and it is totally of of context.
It says God does not hear sinner. Is the Christian a saint or a sinner? Incase you dont know its a saint. We are saints we are holy, we are sanctified, we are spotless and God sees us like Christ. Are we clear on this?
So he does not hear sinner. who are the sinners You BEFORE YOU GOT SAVED. Clear? And lets look at the last part you quoted. But if anyone is a whossipper of God woops that would be me. And does His will woops that would be me laying hands on the sick and setting the captives free. God told us to do that Clear? He hears him. Woops He hears me a man who is not perfect. But perfect in Christ ME.





Will this do or do you require more proof that God has selective hearing?.
God does not have selective hearing But you two do.
I am still requiring any proof if you have any at all.

So please dont be confused over what you are scraping about for.
The accusation against God was That He "will not use a man in sin to heal another man." Try again please.
 

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Yes, anyone can, but in the 60 years I've been around I've never witnessed a successful laying on of hands. I've seen people healed but it had nothing to do with the laying on of hands.

Have you layed hands on the sick?
What did you see that had nothing to do with hands? How did they get healed. Doctors dont count. That is not of God. God never said call the doctors He said call the elders. The old people who have matured and can get it right.
 

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Yes, anyone can, but in the 60 years I've been around I've never witnessed a successful laying on of hands. I've seen people healed but it had nothing to do with the laying on of hands.
So what you did witness was total unbelief them. double mindedness. Will He wont He. Lack of faith nothing else.
 

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Sword, you have much to learn.....
Well it looks like it wont be you teaching for get the much to learn nonsense and get to the business of replying Thanks. You could pray for me if you like for me to get more knowledge please. Everyone can pray for that for me. would be cool thanks.
 

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Are you under the law?? I cant say if you are or are not. But Chritians are NOT under the law.
Matthew 5
17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.


Memorize this passage so you at least know a little of what you're teaching.

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Matthew 5
17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.


Memorize this passage so you at least know a little of what you're teaching.

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For goodness sake this is pathetic. Jesus came to fullfull it cause you cant. No one is taking the law away. But I am not under the law. Are you under the law??
Straight forward question are Christiansd under the law??
If not why did you quote that scripture???????????
 

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For goodness sake this is pathetic. Jesus came to fullfull it cause you cant. No one is taking the law away. But I am not under the law. Are you under the law??
Straight forward question are Christiansd under the law??
If not why did you quote that scripture???????????
When Jesus died on the cross, the physical Law became spiritual. The old covenant was abandoned and a new covenant was introduced. The physical became spiritual.

So yes, we are still under the Law, but it is a spiritual Law. A spiritual Law that has only 2 commandments, honor the one true God and love thy neighbor.

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So you still do not have a scripture that tells you not to go do you??????????????????

Rom 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Who sent you???
 

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Rom 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Who sent you???
Can you honestly not see that this is saying if you dont go, they wont know? The glad tidings and good things are what they recive becaue you went
 

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We should obey the Law, not for salvation, no; Jesus paid that all; however, out of hearts of gratitude and thanksgiving to Christ for what He has done, we should obey His commands: old testament or new.
 

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Can you honestly not see that this is saying if you dont go, they wont know? The glad tidings and good things are what they recive becaue you went

You missed the whole point
And how shall they preach, except they be sent
It is Christ that does the sending, but men are impatient, all trying to EARN that badge of Honour, Look God Look what I did for you". So many men running around doing there will, there works, not sent by God,and as He will say to all those who do not do the will of God

Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity

Religion will be the death of mankind.
 
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We should obey the Law, not for salvation, no; Jesus paid that all; however, out of hearts of gratitude and thanksgiving to Christ for what He has done, we should obey His commands: old testament or new.
Really Paul said obey the law. Have you ever read the bible? I must have missed it where in the new covanat does it say Christains are to go under the law. I can tell you where Christ said if you obey there two commaned you will fulfill the law. You are never tolf you must obey the law. Are you circumside. You done your sacrifises today? You talking nonsense stop it. Stop teaching as you are going to go under a far strictwer judgement all of you.
 

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Really Paul said obey the law. Have you ever read the bible? I must have missed it where in the new covanat does it say Christains are to go under the law. I can tell you where Christ said if you obey there two commaned you will fulfill the law. You are never tolf you must obey the law. Are you circumside. You done your sacrifises today? You talking nonsense stop it. Stop teaching as you are going to go under a far strictwer judgement all of you.
Eph. 6. Children are told BY PAUL to what? Obey their parents because this is the first commandment with a promise. Old Testament ceremonial laws are indeed abolished, but laws such as "make no graven images" or "honor the sabath" are still indeed in effect
 

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Eph. 6. Children are told BY PAUL to what? Obey their parents because this is the first commandment with a promise. Old Testament ceremonial laws are indeed abolished, but laws such as "make no graven images" or "honor the sabath" are still indeed in effect
No there not where is the sabbath law in the new covanant? Remeber where the new covanant starts about the end of all the gospels.