You find Jupiter and Virgo in the stars on that date, nothing more. Anything else is conjecture on your part.
Well, it's not conjecture. The moon is literally at her feet, she is literally clothed with the sun, she literally has 12 stars above her head and Jupiter literally stays in the womb for 42 weeks. Look at the picture.
As I said....we are not supposed to look at the stars.
like the wise men did at Jesus birth? the rev 12 sign takes place in the heavens where the sun, moon, stars and planets reside, but we're not supposed to look at the stars.
And as for Rev 12 being a reference to the birth of Christ? Well, I don't know.
It's actually a reference to the birth of the church being born into incorruptible seed. The church was conceived at Pentecost 2,000 years ago, Acts 2:1-4 and has been in gestation for 2,000 years. Now, it's time for the baby to come out of the womb which is rapture.
John is connecting the head (Jesus Christ) with the body (the church) Col 1:18 through rapture, by using the words "huios", "teknon" and "harpazo". Teknon represents the church, and John uses this word in verse 4
and 5. Take a look..
Rev 12:1-5 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman (Israel) clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She (Israel) was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon (Satan) with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon (Satan) stood in front of the woman (Israel) who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child
(teknon the church) the moment he was born. 5 She gave birth to a son
(huios Jesus Christ himself), a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” And her child
(teknon the church) was snatched up
(harpazo) to God and to his throne.
How many children have the job description of being able to "rule all the nations with a rod of iron",
Well, that would be us (the church), referencing the 7 letters to the 7
churches. It's time to wake up!
Rev 2:26-27
To the one who is victorious and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations— 27that one ‘will rule them with an iron scepter and will dash them to pieces like pottery’ —just as I have received authority from my Father.
but then being holy enough
..is exactly why we are covered in His blood. our works are but filthy rags. are you saved Naomi. are you born again. do you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ? John 3:3, Rom 10:9-10.
No, there are, I've given them to you, you just won't listen.
where did you show me. how else can this sign be fulfilled??
What happened to '27, 37, 57, 77, 87, 97...etc? Do those generations of 7 not count?
Learn your history and 50 year Jubilees, or would you rather mock God?
I'd say, and most certainly doesn't specify 2000 years of waiting.
Well, it actually does because Jesus hasn't returned yet like it says in Rev chapter 19. The church has also been in gestation for 2,000 years. It's time to wake up!
2 Pet 3:9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
It's got nothing to do with astrology, astronomy or however you think Jupiter is going to heave out a child and be devoured by whatever other planet.
be devoured by whatever other planet, you mean like it says in Rev 12:4? how many times have you contradicted yourself so far.
Rev 12:1-5 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman (Israel) clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She (Israel) was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon (Satan) with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon (Satan) stood in front of the woman (Israel) who was about to give birth,
so that it might devour her child (teknon the church) the moment he was born. 5 She gave birth to a son (huios Jesus Christ himself), a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” And her child (teknon the church) was snatched up (harpazo) to God and to his throne.
