Jews and the promised Messiah

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Red_Letters88

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I like to believe that Jews and Christians know the same God, but then their rejection of Jesus reminds me.My question is....since the majority of the Jewish community reject Jesus as the promised Messiah, will they be quick to believe the AntiChrists' false claims or will they accept Jesus at the 2nd coming? .....only then it would be a little bit too late.
 

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Jews don't believe in the same God in a sense. They only believe in a part of God. Remember, there are three Parts. Yahweh, Yashua, and the Holy Spirit. The Bible tells us to believe in all three.And of course the Jews will believe in the Antichrist. He will sit himself upon the rebuilt temple (physical) and proclaim himself to be god (the messiah). Only a few Jews will see through his plot and they will accept Christ. These are the Jews that will find themselves in Heaven.
 

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Most will accept Antichrist at first as will most of the World but in the mid week when Antichrist(Satan) declares himself to be God the Jews will among those who wake up and realize that this is Not God Ez tell us Christains and Jews will be joined together under Christ
 

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Eze 37:16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and [for] all the house of Israel his companions: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Eze 37:17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Eze 37:19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which [is] in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, [even] with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
 

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Most will accept Antichrist at first as will most of the World but in the mid week when Antichrist(Satan) declares himself to be God the Jews will among those who wake up and realize that this is Not God Ez tell us Christains and Jews will be joined together under Christ
That will be a glorious day. :israel:Also, I beat you to the first post
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Jews don't believe in the same God in a sense. They only believe in a part of God. Remember, there are three Parts. Yahweh, Yashua, and the Holy Spirit. The Bible tells us to believe in all three.And of course the Jews will believe in the Antichrist. He will sit himself upon the rebuilt temple (physical) and proclaim himself to be god (the messiah). Only a few Jews will see through his plot and they will accept Christ. These are the Jews that will find themselves in Heaven.
What?! Yeshua=YHWH=Holy Ghost.They Know the Father and the Holy Spirit because the Father is the Holy Spirit, they have yet to receive the Son(WORD MANIFESTED, GOD DWELLING Colossians 2:9) of God. The Only Way God will bring their Hearts back is through their Prophets! Which is why Elijah and Moshe will come back cause they will only hearken to their prophets and then HaMashiach Moshiach Christ the Messiah, will be in their Hearts. IN ONE DAY, all 144,000 Jews will be baptized with Ruach HaKodesh(Holy Ghost).My Point Is, YHWH is Yeshua, Yeshua is YHWH's Word Manifested in Flesh, Flesh was Made unto the Likeness of Men, and The Manifested Word which was Flesh was Formed into Likeness of Men, and the Fullness of God dwelled in Him. Hebrews 13:8 Yeshua HaMashiach, the same yesterday, today, and forever.There are the 144,000 Jews that will accept him in One day, these are the Elect, the Other Jews will be part of the Bride of Christ.
 

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Wait unorthodox Christian....You claim all other Jews will be the bride of Christ.I thought it was us Christian who are the other part of the bride-groom ceremony.How could all other Jews be the same...considering Jesus said "no man comes to the father except through me"Most Jews don't accept Christ.Please explain your reasoning
 

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There are the 144,000 Jews that will accept him in One day, these are the Elect, the Other Jews will be part of the Bride of Christ.
What makes you think the 144,000 are Jews?
 

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well on unorodoxs' behalf, I believe the bible explains the 144k who are taken to be of the tribe of Israel, who have taken His name and His Fathers name.....I'm looking for scripture
 
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Wait unorthodox Christian....You claim all other Jews will be the bride of Christ.I thought it was us Christian who are the other part of the bride-groom ceremony.How could all other Jews be the same...considering Jesus said "no man comes to the father except through me"Most Jews don't accept Christ.Please explain your reasoning
Read Revelation Chapter 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation.Says Here that every kindred nation and Tongue! THERE ARE OVER 200 THOUSAND messianic Jews! Praise the Lord! The 144,000 are Special they are converted within that same Day. The Ones Before them, Messianic Jews, are the ones that are either gonna join the ones God has Chosen or Will be part of the Bride. It says so in Revelation 5:9
What makes you think the 144,000 are Jews?
RedLetters88 Says It. Any person of Abraham and Issac and Jacob are Jews EVEN US because of Galatians 3:14 That the Blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Yeshua HaMashiach(Jesus Christ); that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.PRAISE THE LORD!
 

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Yeah kriss good point, even though it seems pretty reasonable to believe these 144k as Jews... If they come from the tribe of Israel.THE IMPORTANT FACT---they accept Christ and God the Father nonetheless!!!There is plenty of rejoicing in that fact alone.My point in the conversation with Unortodox was the claim he made that the rest of the Jews will be the bride of Christ.True, the bible says if you live by the law, you will be judged by the law.But the even more important verse is that Jesus says that no man can come to the father but through him...It seems like it would be hard to be the bride of Christ if you never accepted him as Lord in the first place.
 
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If you Look at the Jews as the Kabbalists, Talmudists, Hasidics, Orthodox or Reform, then you're mistaken. Jews Are exactly Galatians 3:29 and 4:28
 

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Northern Israel consisted of the Ten so called lost tribessouthern Israel was made up of Judah and some Levi/w and Benjamitesthe ten northern tribes left Jerusalem and went over the Caucasus MT. to what is nowBritain then to Ireland England and across Europe eventually to America and became known as the Christian nations. In scripture Ephraim and Mannash are Britain and America,Israel and the Jews of today are known as the tribe of JudahWhen prophecy in scripture talks of Judah it is referring to today's JewsNow with this in mind read what Ez. prophesies: Eze 37:16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and [for] all the house of Israel his companions: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Eze 37:17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Eze 37:19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which [is] in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, [even] with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand. So you see the christains and Jews(Judah) will become one under Christ when prophecy says ALL Israel it means all 12 tribes reunited
 

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Much talk here about antichrist comming in bodily form. 1John: 4:3b - And this is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard was comming, and is NOW already IN the world. And very much manifested from then up till now in human affairs. Very much an archetype. As in prototype. An agent of influence towards evil.
 

Christina

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If you do not understand who is who you will have a hard time getting this Israel is all 12 tribes together today that means all christian nations and the current day Jews(Judah)The ten lost tribes are the current Christains (nations) all will be joined under ChristEze 37:16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah,(curent Day Israel) and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim,(christain nation) and [for] all the house of Israel(all 12 tribes rejoined) his companions: Eze 37:17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. Eze 37:19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which [is] in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, [even] with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand