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skyangel

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Lady, i found Christ long time ago, that is why I walked out of religion and will never go back. I am tired of peopel keeping others from Christ which is what religion does. "you want Jesus you have to come to us", well we dont, I hate religion, it is an abomination a mixture of teh old temple traditions with teh holy spirirt thrown in, and too many voices all causing confusion, so few follow Christ. they prefer the easy religion thingy, to there demise. Christ walked this earth as a man than through His sacrifice returned to God, which without there is no salvation for mankind. Theer is no"physical" JEsus on this earth yet He visits many in teh Spirit, So sorry lady I was woken up years ago, and I hate what I see , man made christianity is a big fail, and far to many are about to have there eyes opened far to late to change. So sorry but you are wasting your breath.

So much truth you have mixed with one fat lie.

What exactly is Christ to you? A man or a Spirit?
Do you happen to believe Christ will one day appear in the form of a physical man in literal clouds and take you up into the sky with him?
You can hate religion all you want but as long as you are still idolizing a false Christ, you are no better than those you hate.

You claim Christ is NOT on Earth in the flesh today and that makes you an antichrist according to 1 John 4:1-3

I am telling you that Christ IS always on Earth in the flesh, Yesterday Today and Forever. Christ is the SAME today as "he/it" WAS yesterday and WILL be tomorrow. The blind will NEVER SEE but the disciples SEE CLEARLY.

The breath of LIFE is never wasted.
 

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I am telling you that Christ IS always on Earth in the flesh, Yesterday Today and Forever. Christ is the SAME today as "he/it" WAS yesterday and WILL be tomorrow. The blind will NEVER SEE but the disciples SEE CLEARLY.
Ypu are telling me lots of things, but I "know" you are wrong, Christ will never change, that we all know, but you still missed it all, Jesus is Gods word "spirit" born in teh flesh, became man, died for teh sins of mankind as He had none of His own, became sin to pay teh price for our sins, of which If He did not, not even you can be saved, Really simple. But you see I have net Christ in teh "spirirt" so I know what you preach is lies. Like so many people tyring to save them selves and causing so many to stumble.
 

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Ypu are telling me lots of things, but I "know" you are wrong, Christ will never change, that we all know, but you still missed it all, Jesus is Gods word "spirit" born in teh flesh, became man, died for teh sins of mankind as He had none of His own, became sin to pay teh price for our sins, of which If He did not, not even you can be saved, Really simple. But you see I have net Christ in teh "spirirt" so I know what you preach is lies. Like so many people tyring to save them selves and causing so many to stumble.

I agree that Christ will NEVER change. The WORD is GOD not some individual man since God is SPIRIT. If GOD never changes and IF the WORD (God) was made flesh and dwelt among us, when exactly do you suppose it was made flesh and dwelt among us? At some tiny space of time in history or in the BEGINNING which has no beginning of itself?
Do you think God was only manifest on Earth in the flesh for approx 30 odd years in the history of mankind?
If so, why don't you explain to me how GOD which is always the same and always has the same manifestation in the flesh WAS manifest in the flesh on Earth before the story of Jesus, how is the same GOD manifest in the flesh after the story of Jesus like Today and how can God ALWAYS be manifest in the flesh on Earth for all future eternity?
IF God is NOT on Earth in the flesh Today in the SAME way as God WAS on Earth in the past BEFORE DURING and AFTER the Jesus story, and IF God is not manifest in the flesh on Earth Today and Tomorrow and every single day of the future, HOW is that God ALWAYS the SAME? Either God changes from being visible to being invisible or he is ALWAYS visible to some and always invisible to others at the same time.
You have not met the real Christ in Spirit at all. You "met' an illusion of Christ which is a false Christ. If you knew the REAL Christ, you would not be so blind to understanding that God is ALWAYS on Earth in the flesh, always WAS from the beginning and always WILL BE. If you knew the real Christ, you would not be waiting for his return at some future time because he would always be WITH YOU and IN YOU regardless of what you do. Every time you looked in a mirror you would see the son of God in the flesh on Earth. If you do not see Christ in your own flesh on Earth then you are not a son of God.

You claim to have met Christ in the Spirit. I have not only met Christ in Spirit but I also met Christ in the flesh on Earth and I clearly see God in the flesh on Earth every single time I open my eyes and look all around me. You could see God too if you stopped worshipping your idol and understood that God has always manifest in and through ALL flesh ( physical things) in the universe, not just though one man. God has always been the same and manifests Spirit in ALL flesh in the same way past present and future for all eternity.
 

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You could see God too if you stopped worshipping your idol and understood that God has always manifest in and through ALL flesh ( physical things) in the universe, not just though one man. God has always been the same and manifests Spirit in ALL flesh in the same way past present and future for all eternity.
No Idols here, just Jesus. Now please stop turning people from the truth, "we" all have to answer for those whom we cause to stumble.

You have not met the real Christ in Spirit at all. You "met' an illusion of Christ which is a false Christ. If you knew the REAL Christ, you would not be so blind to understanding that God is ALWAYS on Earth in the flesh, always WAS from the beginning and always WILL BE. If you knew the real Christ, you would not be waiting for his return at some future time because he would always be WITH YOU and IN YOU regardless of what you do. Every time you looked in a mirror you would see the son of God in the flesh on Earth. If you do not see Christ in your own flesh on Earth then you are not a son of God.

And yours was what.

Mar 13:21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
Mar 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
Mar 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.

So we dont believe you, because though He is with Men in teh spirit, He has not yet fulllfilled teh final prophecy. Funny mentioned this to my dad, said hes heard it all berfore, for me you are the first, teh devils time is really short.
 

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No Idols here, just Jesus. Now please stop turning people from the truth, "we" all have to answer for those whom we cause to stumble.



And yours was what.

Mar 13:21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
Mar 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
Mar 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.

So we dont believe you, because though He is with Men in teh spirit, He has not yet fulllfilled teh final prophecy. Funny mentioned this to my dad, said hes heard it all berfore, for me you are the first, teh devils time is really short.

It is people who are proselytizing others into the idol worship of Jesus who are turning their converts away from the TRUTH that God is NOT a MAN and no man is to be worshipped as God.
I am well prepared to answer to anyone for turning people away from idol worship.

I am not the one saying "Here is Christ" or "There is Christ" as I point to an individual man of the past present or future.
Christians are doing that by preaching Christ WAS "HERE" once upon a time and WILL BE "THERE" in the middle East someplace one day when he returns but is NOT Here or There today.
An individual person can be "Here" or "There" like the Queen can be "Here" or "There" but claiming that Christ ever was or will be here or there in the sense of being confined to only one man on Earth at any time is as stupid as claiming LOVE or LIFE is a person who is Here or There and confined to only one person in history and never manifests through any other person than the one in the story.
Christ is a SPIRIT which is not HERE or THERE in the sense of being confined to any particular location. Christ is always EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME.


Jesus in the story fulfilled all that was ever prophesied about him. His job was to fulfill ALL the law and ALL the prophets. He did it and said he had FINISHED his work not half finished it or almost finished but completely finished. If you think he did not, you have been led astray by the false doctrines which are keeping you deluded.

Wake up to yourself. Worshipping an individual person is plain idolatry.
The Spirit of LIFE is EVERYWHERE on Earth and in the universe manifesting itself in the FLESH of all existing things for all eternity.
That's how it always WAS and IS and always WILL BE, YESTERDAY ( Past) TODAY ( Present ) and FOR EVER ( Future)

If you refuse to see and believe that, it is your own fault for remaining blind.
 

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This is an announcement, not a debate. When the forum was transferred over to the new software non Christian members were able to post in Christian areas of the forum. This was an oversight and we apologize for the inconvenience for those who needed to select a faith again. If anyone is having a problem with posting try to make a faith selection in your profile, but if that doesn't work message Brent, Angelina, or Myself and we can correct it.

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