Verses we don't get

28I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. On the surface this looks like a condradiction in these two verses but it is not it is talking about two differnt things and timesThe first verse is saying that all blasphemes will be forgiven men this means if you used the Lords name in vain or at some point blasheme the Lord just ask and it will be forgiven God knows blashemes is probably in one way or another the most common of sins and he saying they are like other sins forgivable upon repentance 29But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin."Now this verse would seem to contradict the first verse (use the grey matter here)Knowing there are no contradictions in scripture We have to understandThis is talking about a particular type of blaspheme One where the Holy spirit is involved so when do we get told of the Holy spirit that could be talking about??Mark 13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. This is when the Elect are put on trial by Antichrist they are not to premeditatewhat they will say because the Holy ghost/spirit will come upon themthis sin can only be commited by the Elect and only at this period in time When the Holy spirit comes on the Elect (just like in Acts 2) they will at the same timereceive the knowledge of God and having this full knowledge should they of their own free will deny God they will comit blashpeme of the Holy spirit this is known as the unforgivable sin.And will never be forgiven

what are blasphemies against the spirit? why would God single this out? does this mean that the person who commits this sin is doomed to hell? If God is three in one does that mean that a blasphemie against the holy spirit could qualify as a blasphemy against God???? The only blasphemy that can't be reconciled is not accepting Jesus Christ as saviour and lord. In addition to that, since God is too many to be one and too one to be many, to reject the Spirit that He is amounts to rejection of any hope at all!

(bytheway;30351)
what are blasphemies against the spirit? why would God single this out? does this mean that the person who commits this sin is doomed to hell? If God is three in one does that mean that a blasphemie against the holy spirit could qualify as a blasphemy against God???? The only blasphemy that can't be reconciled is not accepting Jesus Christ as saviour and lord. In addition to that, since God is too many to be one and too one to be many, to reject the Spirit that He is amounts to rejection of any hope at all!
So are you a Trinitarian? If you are, no wonder why you're not understanding what Kriss is saying.

(bytheway;30351)
what are blasphemies against the spirit? why would God single this out? does this mean that the person who commits this sin is doomed to hell? If God is three in one does that mean that a blasphemie against the holy spirit could qualify as a blasphemy against God???? The only blasphemy that can't be reconciled is not accepting Jesus Christ as saviour and lord. In addition to that, since God is too many to be one and too one to be many, to reject the Spirit that He is amounts to rejection of any hope at all!
Did you read what the post said ?? only the Elect can comit this unforgivable sin and only at a particular timeall other forms of blaspheme will be forgiven men

(Letsgofishing;30337)
we all have one or two.I'll ask mine first If Jesus died for all sins than what in a Superjag does he mean by this.28I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. 29But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin."what are blasphemies against the spirit? why would God single this out? does this mean that the person who commits this sin is doomed to hell? If God is three in one does that mean that a blasphemie against the holy spirit could qualify as a blasphemy against God????thanks in advance for you answers Your brother in christRyan Fitz
"Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: John 16:7-8 (ESV)"Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness:He was manifested in the flesh,vindicated by the Spirit,seen by angels,proclaimed among the nations,believed on in the world,taken up in glory." 1 Timothy 3:16 (ESV)The destruction of the old self will be eternal, it will never be forgotten."But that is not the way you learned Christ! — assuming that you have heard about him and were taught in him, as the truth is in Jesus, to put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness."Ephesians 4:20-24 (ESV)"Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."Philippians 2:9-11 (ESV)"For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death." 1 Corinthians 15:25-26 (ESV)"just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire." Jude 1:7 (ESV)"'for his judgments are true and just; for he has judged the great prostitute who corrupted the earth with her immorality, and has avenged on her the blood of his servants.'Once more they cried out, 'Hallelujah! The smoke from her goes up forever and ever.'"Revelation 19:2-3 (ESV)"Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire." Revelation 20:14 (ESV)"For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality. When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written: 'Death is swallowed up in victory.'"1 Corinthians 15:53-54 (ESV)

The reason that blaspheming God's Spirit is the unpardonable sin, is because His Spirit is the part of Him that sanctifies and regenerates the hearts of men and reconciles us to God:Titus 3:5-7 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by His grace we would be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. Romans 8:2-17 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God. However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh-- for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, "Abba! Father!" The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him.2 Corinthians 3:2-3 You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men; being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.Hebrews 10:14-17 For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified. And the Holy Spirit also testifies to us; for after saying, "THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THEM AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS UPON THEIR HEART, AND ON THEIR MIND I WILL WRITE THEM," He then says, "AND THEIR SINS AND THEIR LAWLESS DEEDS I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE." Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God. If you reject His Spirit, then there is no other way by which you can be saved. You have cut yourself off from the only one who would have circumcized your heart and written God's Laws upon it so that you could have become His child and an heir to His Kingdom. The Pharisees denied God's Spirit and remained hard hearted and unregenerate, and thus gave up any means of their own salvation.SealedEternal

(SealedEternal;30407)
The reason that blaspheming God's Spirit is the unpardonable sin, is because His Spirit is the part of Him that sanctifies and regenerates the hearts of men and reconciles us to God:Titus 3:5-7 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by His grace we would be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. Romans 8:2-17 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God. However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh-- for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, "Abba! Father!" The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him.2 Corinthians 3:2-3 You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men; being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.Hebrews 10:14-17 For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified. And the Holy Spirit also testifies to us; for after saying, "THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THEM AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS UPON THEIR HEART, AND ON THEIR MIND I WILL WRITE THEM," He then says, "AND THEIR SINS AND THEIR LAWLESS DEEDS I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE." Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God. If you reject His Spirit, then there is no other way by which you can be saved. You have cut yourself off from the only one who would have circumcized your heart and written God's Laws upon it so that you could have become His child and an heir to His Kingdom. The Pharisees denied God's Spirit and remained hard hearted and unregenerate, and thus gave up any means of their own salvation.SealedEternal
You are clearly not talking about the unforgivable sin as we are told All forms of blaspheme will be forgivenand there are no contradictions in Gods word the unpardonable is set apart and is something that can not be repented for and at this time there is NO sin that can not be repented for and forgivenas we all fall shortRead my post again(#2) this is a one time sin and can only be comitted when we are no longer under Grace and only then with the full knowledge of God sealed in our minds I serousily doubt it will ever be comitted but God says he has forewarned us of all things. So we are warned.

(Unorthodox Christian;30386)
So are you a Trinitarian? If you are, no wonder why you're not understanding what Kriss is saying.
Hear oh Israel our Lord is one God. One Lord, one faith, one baptisim. The original question had to do with speaking against the Holy Spirit, who is fully God. As to kriss's post, I understand Churchianity very well. The western variety that is.

What is a trinitarian?

And what is Churchianity? If you are are talking what is taught in churchs today and aiming that at me YOU are so far off base that Im sure it would get a good laugh from manyas anyone one here will atest to if there is one thing I continually talk against it is religions of men and church doctrines

Churchianity is a pejorative term used to describe practices of Christianity that are viewed as placing a larger emphasis on the habits of church life or the institutional traditions of a specific Christian denomination than on the teachings of Jesus.It can also be used to describe churches across many denominations where the central focus has moved from Christ to the church. Hence the replacement of Christ with church in the word churchianity.

Well then I find that hysterically funny that I of all people am being accused of thatAnyone think I been to supportive of fast food religion and denominations and mens church doctrinesNot making fun of you bytheway I know you are new here and havent learned how we all stand its just funny if you knew how wrong you were when you get to know me you will see the humor here

(kriss;30409)
You are clearly not talking about the unforgivable sin as we are told All forms of blaspheme will be forgivenand there are no contradictions in Gods word the unpardonable is set apart and is something that can not be repented for and at this time there is NO sin that can not be repented for and forgivenas we all fall shortRead my post again(#2) this is a one time sin and can only be comitted when we are no longer under Grace and only then with the full knowledge of God sealed in our minds I serousily doubt it will ever be comitted but God says he has forewarned us of all things. So we are warned.
What the text says is that all sins are forgiven except blaspheming God's Spirit. Your explanation is clearly mistaken since it is the Pharisees who is being spoken to. They were blaspheming God's Spirit and thus Jesus said they could not be saved. Salvation is being freed from one's sins through the regeneration of our hearts and minds by God's Spirit, who fulfills the Law in us by writing it on our hearts and minds and sanctifying us and immersing us into Himself so that we may become children of God. If you deny God's Spirit as the Pharisees did in that passage, you cut yourself off from becoming a child of God, because you have refused the only One who could save you from your lawlessness.SealedEternal

A trinitarian is someone who believes in the idea of the trinity (God being the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit), yet being one as well,I believe. There may be more to it than that. Scripture does teach this in 1 John 5:7. It says, "For there are three that bear witness in Heaven: the Father, the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. As far as blaspheming the Holy Spirit, I have always been taught and see in scripture that this is the person who the Spirit has drawn, but has said no. His heart gets more hardened each time to where he is unable to accept Christ because he is no longer tender to the message. We sometimes think we can come to Christ when we want to, but Christ himself spoke of those in His day missing their "time of visitation" (Luke 40-44). Right before the scripture about blaspheming in Luke 12:8 and 9, Jesus talks about us confessing him before men, but I think he is talking about all who make the decision to follow Christ. It is those who reject Christ,yet are convicted of sin and called by His Spirit ,who die in their own sins. Not one of us truly knows the answer to your question, but we can use God's Word and pray for His Spirit to "teach us all things".

Oooooppps! I put Luke 40-44, but it's 19:40-44. You would have a harrrrdddd time finding those chapters. We'd have to start diggin'!

(SealedEternal;30432)
What the text says is that all sins are forgiven except blaspheming God's Spirit. Your explanation is clearly mistaken since it is the Pharisees who is being spoken to. They were blaspheming God's Spirit and thus Jesus said they could not be saved. Salvation is being freed from one's sins through the regeneration of our hearts and minds by God's Spirit, who fulfills the Law in us by writing it on our hearts and minds and sanctifying us and immersing us into Himself so that we may become children of God. If you deny God's Spirit as the Pharisees did in that passage, you cut yourself off from becoming a child of God, because you have refused the only One who could save you from your lawlessness.SealedEternal
sorry it is you who are mistaken this is a End time repeat of Acts and is spoken of in Mark 13 and it is Antichrist who hold the trials and we are told the Holy ghost/Spirit will speak though us this has not happened yet and is future and this is the only time it can happen as we will no longer be under Grace and there has never been anyone already Judged that is condemed except Satan himself this fact alone makes this event future

(followerofchrist;30423)
Churchianity is a pejorative term used to describe practices of Christianity that are viewed as placing a larger emphasis on the habits of church life or the institutional traditions of a specific Christian denomination than on the teachings of Jesus.It can also be used to describe churches across many denominations where the central focus has moved from Christ to the church. Hence the replacement of Christ with church in the word churchianity.
Bingo! Perfect followerofchrist!!! Take it easy Kriss. I didn't accuse YOU of anything. Please don't become your doctrine. There's always more. Nobody, not any group, individual, not the children of God throughout time and eternity has all the Light on any one subject. It's simply a matter of the americanization of Christianity and the failure to understand the first that which is natural and then that which is spiritual principle (1 Cor. 15:46). Keeping things presented through the natural type when they point to spiritual fullfillment. As you probably know, in the O.T. the N.T. is concealed, in the N.T. the O.T. is revealed. Sorry if I upset you.

It didnt upset me it was such a miss jugdment it had to be funny it was kind of like accusing Brittany Spears of having to much common senseI get called on the carpet contiually because I teach only from Gods Word not from mens traditions and religionsyou just stated my stand above and your quote about the old testament concealed and new testament revealed is a standard of mine I have quoted it a hundred times on this site and I strickly follow the Word of God alone. No man

(kriss;30459)
sorry it is you who are mistaken this is a End time repeat of Acts and is spoken of in Mark 13 and it is Antichrist who hold the trials and we are told the Holy ghost/Spirit will speak though us this has not happened yet and is future and this is the only time it can happen as we will no longer be under Grace and there has never been anyone already Judged that is condemed except Satan himself this fact alone makes this event future
I'm sorry but if you don't understand that salvation is having your heart regenerated by God's Spirit then you don't have the Gospel. Titus 3:5-7 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by His grace we would be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. Romans 8:2-17 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God. However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh-- for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, "Abba! Father!" The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him.2 Corinthians 3:2-3 You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men; being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.Hebrews 10:14-17 For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified. And the Holy Spirit also testifies to us; for after saying, "THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THEM AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS UPON THEIR HEART, AND ON THEIR MIND I WILL WRITE THEM," He then says, "AND THEIR SINS AND THEIR LAWLESS DEEDS I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE." Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God. If you reject His Spirit, then there is no other way by which you can be saved. You, like the Pharisees have cut yourself off from the only one who would have circumcized your heart and written God's Laws upon it so that you could have become His child and an heir to His Kingdom. They denied God's Spirit when they saw His works being performed, and thus remained hard hearted and unregenerate, and gave up any means of their own salvation. You are doing the exact same thing by denying Him and His work in the hearts and minds of us.It is by God's grace that He comes into our hearts to circumcize them and write His Law upon them in order to fulfill His own Law and sanctify us, so that we may become children of God and heirs to His Kingdom. If you deny Him, then you cannot be reborn or regenerated, and will not inherit His Kingdom because you're not His child.SealedEternal