The creation of Eve

brionne said:

would you eat dinner with two knives?
No. When you eat, you use a knife and fork because those two together work.... they compliment each other.
Two of the same may not have worked as well

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I did not say 2 men or 2 women. God could have created them just as they turned out to be, to compliment each other without taking anything from Adam. God intentionally took a part of Adam to make Eve because it reflected something heavenly. There is higher meaning to Gods actions in the physical world.

brionne said:

Luke 10:1 says that Jesus sent 70 disciples out to preach. So the 12 apostles were not alone in that commission.

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You must consider Christ's words carefully. He did not send the 70 to preach to the world. let's review his words;

Luke 10:1After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.

Christ sent the 70 to very specific places, the places that he was going to himself physically. Those 70 went to 35 places in pairs where they were told to go and then returned;

Luke 10:17And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.

The 70 completed the commission Christ sent them to perform and then their commission ended. He did not send them out to the world as he did his 11 apostles. Note here that it was 11 and not 12 apostles commissioned to take it to the world;

Mark 16:14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. 15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

So we have no one that can answer this simple little OP

brionne said:

It seems to me that Jesus clearly had in mind that all his followers would be doing the same work as he commissioned his 12 apostles. They were to go preaching and teaching about Christ and his works and how to follow his teachings.

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This is why their words were written down. In order for them to take the word to the ends of the earth it had to be contained in written form. There is no need for others to interpret the original written word and then preach their understanding of it to others. As an example of just how wrong things can become when others interpret the apostles messages and preach would be the catholic church. They felt that no one but their own priests had the capability to interpret Gods word and where has that end up? Here is one example but there are a great many more;

Q. Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?
A. Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her. She could not have substituted the observance of Sunday the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority.
–Rev. Stephen Keenan, (1851), p. 174.

God is all powerful and he knows what you need before you need it. There is no simpler way to learn of God than to take his written word and pray for him to open your mind to understand it.

brionne said:

The apostles role was slightly different in that they were the authority in how that message was conveyed and what was to be in that message. But surely you don't think Christ was expecting them to do that work alone? 12 men alone were not responsible for the message of Christ being taken to the ends of the earth.

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One man alone changed the entire creation and he sent 11 by and with the power of his Father.

bbyrd009 said:

looks like you got some great answers imo; Eve is a "side" of Adam.

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several opinions and yet the correct answer has not yet been given.

There is a higher meaning for why eve was formed in the manner that was defined in Genesis and if no one here has already been given that understanding to answer this question then, I suggest that anyone who believes they have access to the holy spirit should ask for this understanding.
Why should God not give understanding about his own word?

It is written;

Luke 11:9And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. 10For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. 11If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? 12Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

Matt 7:7Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. 9Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? 10Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

Matt 21:22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

Of course there is one caveat;
2 Cor 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. 15But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. 16Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

"ByGrace" said:

Eve was formed, because God said, "It is not good for man to be alone." God was showing us here a reflection of Himself.
A Bride for His Beloved Son, a part of Himself.
On the cross , blood and water came from the side of our Greater Kindsman...
The Church, birthed from His side ...as in the first Adam.
His potential Bride , that would remain at His side eternally, where she belongs.

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your reply makes no logical sense.
If God is showing a reflection of himself then what part is the bride?

No church was birthed from Christ's side. His blood was shed as the payment for the sins of those who are worthy to be redeemed, as it is written;

1 Peter 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. 17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear: 18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.

Israel is the true olive tree (church) created by God and it was begun by the Father through Abraham long before Christ was born of Mary.

Romans 11:11 So I ask, did they stumble in order that they might fall? By no means! Rather, through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous. 12 Now if their trespass means riches for the world, and if their failure means riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their full inclusion mean!
13 Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry 14 in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them. 15 For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead? 16 If the dough offered as first fruits is holy, so is the whole lump, and if the root is holy, so are the branches.
17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. 19 Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22 Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. 23 And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.

The olive tree "Israel" is the church of God and Christ and its first member was Abram.

Matthew 19:28 “And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.”

Isaiah 44:21‑23
“Remember these, O Jacob and Israel; for thou art My servant: I have formed thee; thou art My servant: O Israel, thou shalt not be forgotten of Me. I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and as a cloud, thy sins: return unto Me: for I have redeemed thee. Sing, O ye heavens: for Yahweh hath done it; shout, ye lower parts of the earth; break forth into singing, ye mountains, O forest and every tree therein: for Yahweh hath redeemed Jacob and glorified Himself in Israel.”

Revelation 7:4
“And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all of the tribes of the children of Israel.”

So, your reply is also incorrect.

"ByGrace" said:

Believe what you like.
You dangle things before us , just so you can tell us how stupid we are.
What on earth makes you think that you , and you only, " know" what was in the mind of God when He brought Eve out of the side of the first Adam.
You can guess, you can make a doctrine out of it...but you do not know anything other than what you have chosen to be the " only right answer "
You posted " many answers give, but no one has the correct answer."
"CORRECT "....IN WHOS EYES??!!! Have at it!

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No one so far is stupid.
People typically give answers based on what they learn from others who essentially are not connected with the holy spirit. How many times has God referenced in his word those whose faith and understanding is based on the traditions made by man?

The correct answer is absolutely there and the holy spirit if it dwells within you can open your understanding just as has been promised by God. all you need to do is ask just as it was written.

VictoryinJesus said:

Woman (the flesh) is the glory of man (the spiritual man made flesh through the woman). But the flesh sinned, man and woman (the one; bone of bone and flesh of flesh) were cursed (Blood introduces to the bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh). Which is the reason for Genesis 3 ...and thy desire shall be to thy husband and he shall rule over thee.

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it is true that woman is the glory of the man but that does not explain why Eve was created in the manner defined in Genesis.
It should also be pointed out that a reference to sin has no place during the creation account of mankind.

VictoryinJesus said:

Where did the flesh used with the mans bone to form woman come from?

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The original Hebrew does not state that Eve was formed from the bone / rib of Adam and we should all know that the formation of Adams body of flesh was formed by the power of God through Christ in arranging the matter / dirt of the earth.

So, why wasn't Eve formed in the same manner? What is the significance for the manner in which she was formed differently than Adam? This is the question posed in this thread. God does nothing without meaning. Have you considered the meaning of this part of Genesis 2;

18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

Why would God form every other creature and then assert that "but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him". God knew that none of the other creatures would be a proper help for Adam and yet the spirit takes the reader on that explanatory journey for a reason. Why?

Christ says "Man shall live by every word of the mouth of God" and God's words begin in Genesis. There is a vast amount of truth contained in God's word that most people will not know or understand until the end and it all matters according to Christ's perspective. If you have the holy spirit residing in you then you can ask for understanding of God's word and it shall be given just as God has promised every true seeker who loves God and his Son.

If you can't yet define the very simple answer to the question posed in this threads OP then you are still awaiting the giving of the holy spirit. Each of those who will be saved will receive the spirit at some point in their life and the spirit will guide them to all truth as it was written;

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Not having the answer to my question has no reflection on your intellect since understanding or not understanding is directly controlled by God. If God wants to blind you to understanding his word then no one can open this understanding to you. The simple understanding you can gain by not having an answer here is that you have not yet followed the milk that God has given you in order to be granted the indwelling of the holy spirit.

1 Timothy 2:1I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Ezekiel 33:11Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? 12Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth. 13When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it. 14Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right; 15If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die. 16None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live.
17Yet the children of thy people say, The way of the Lord is not equal: but as for them, their way is not equal. 18When the righteous turneth from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, he shall even die thereby. 19But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby. 20Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. O ye house of Israel, I will judge you every one after his ways.

bbyrd009 said:

prolly not a good idea to get too insistent about any theories of A&E; Genesis is acknowledged to be almost all mythology i think. By which i do not mean "myth."

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You can certainly believe that any of the scripture is a mythology aka non-inspired story but, each of us must make such a determination for ourselves. I know that most scripture is inspired by the spirit of truth and it is given in a manner that a true seeker of understanding can grasp when God opens their understanding.

"ByGrace" said:

See, there you go again...pretending that " only you" have the full revelation on this subject. Either SAY something relevant to it...or just SHUT UP , stop showing off about how clever you are to have a " direct line" to the Holy Spirit!

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So attacking me is your best reply....
Of course I must be a liar / pretender if I tell you that your answer is wrong....
Absolutely no one but you can have inspiration from the holy spirit right?
Now if I do have a direct line to the holy spirit and I was given answers to my prayers how does that make me clever? If I gave you an answer on a test would that make you clever?

As a "Christian" wouldn't your best reply be to simply say I don't know and do the one thing that I have stated repeatedly..... pray to God for understanding of his word.
Each of us has a different gift as God has seen fit but we all originate from the same point.... God and he tells us that if we are striving to be his children that he will help us understand.

Colossians 1:9 For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;

We are supposed to grow in the knowledge of God. No one can expect that every one will be at the same point in understanding. If there are others who have grown in understanding by God's help then why must it be a hateful thing?

All the clues from God's word have been given in order for men to be able to discern that there is meaning in God's actions. I will give you all the relevant scriptures with their clues that should provide the answer to my question;

Gen1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness... 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Gen2:18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
20 ...but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his side (ribs), and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the side (rib), which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

A small note I can pass on here is that the translation of tsela to mean rib is an error. In most every other place it is used tsela means side. You can see this in the reference given in Strong's concordance here; Strong's Hebrew: 6763. צְלָעֹת (tsela) -- rib, side