Should We Accept Anyone Caught In Sin

"And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will." (2 Timothy 2:24-26)

Notice the first part of this verse - "And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient..." Only by utilizing these traits of the Holy Spirit will you truly walk as a "Light among men". God is the sole Judge and Jury when it comes to sin in people's lives. It is not up to us to condemn anyone, but only to do what He has directed us to do in His Word. Regarding your "example" I would suggest that you be a "Light among men" by showing them you walk with Jesus by your words, thoughts, and actions. We do not walk as examples of Christ when we condemn people or show animosity toward them simply because of their lifestyle. Remember that Jesus died for such as these and while we should not tolerate such things within our own lives (or our churches) we should still "be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition" in the manner that the Lord has directed.

The rest of the above verse can even be used as a prayer, such as, "Father, I pray that You would grant [insert name here] repentance, so that they may know the truth, and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will."

Amen.

RobinD69 said:

Please know I was refering to all sin and not just the specific sin of the example.

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So was I

RobinD69 said:

Should anyone caught in sin be accepted in Christianity?

I will give an example;

Should an active homosexual be accepted? I understand many have homsexual tendencies but do not act on them but what of those who act on them and demand acceptance and deny they are caught in sin.

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WHAT ABOUT THE OTHERS?the ones who's sins don't stand out quite as much[ backbiters,coveters,thiefs,etc..] are we judgeing equally? the word tells us what to do with a brother or sister who continues in sin but what about sinners that have not christ? let us look at all sin the same and not be a respecter of persons.i am refering to us all.

gregg said:

WHAT ABOUT THE OTHERS? the ones who's sins don't stand out quite as much[ backbiters,coveters, thieves,etc..] are we judging equally? the word tells us what to do with a brother or sister who continues in sin but what about sinners that have not christ? let us look at all sin the same and not be a respecter of persons.i am referring to us all.

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Very true. We usually pick out the 'big' ones..and that make us feel that we are above it!
I think the verse " He who is without sin cast the stone first.."
Jesus accepted them all, and was found with publicans and sinners...He did not condone all. Neither do we. I think there is a difference between sin, and ( unrepentant) habitual sin. Which the Church cannot condone.

What if the law was given so we can radically accept everyone? The only thing the law really does is show us over and over again that no one except Christ can follow it. What if that is the point? If we see the law as a light highlighting our darkness, it leads to unconditional love for neighbor

The law brings death and Christ brought life

Sword said:

The law brings death and Christ brought life

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Christ came to fulfill the law not to abolish it

RobinD69 said:

Should an active homosexual be accepted? I understand many have homsexual tendencies but do not act on them but what of those who act on them and demand acceptance and deny they are caught in sin.

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No.

1 Corinthians 5
9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people.
10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.
11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.



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Job said:

No.

1 Corinthians 5
9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people.
10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.
11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

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Simple and to the point, awesome, unrepentant sinners in the body of Christ gets tossed to the curb.

(Matthew 18:15-20) "¶ Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. {16} But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. {17} And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. {18} Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. {19} Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. {20} For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

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Matt 18:15-20 sounds like Jesus is showing mercy towards people who haven't learned to love their neighbor. God did the same thing in the Garden when he made clothes for Adam and Eve and for the Israelites when he created ground rules for divorce- even though he hates divorce.

aspen said:

Christ came to fulfill the law not to abolish it

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He abolisded it for us. We are now not under it ever now one single little part

aspen said:

Matt 18:15-20 sounds like Jesus is showing mercy towards people who haven't learned to love their neighbor. God did the same thing in the Garden when he made clothes for Adam and Eve and for the Israelites when he created ground rules for divorce- even though he hates divorce.

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God cant tell us to forfive sevty times seventy then He doesnt do it, God is love and loves us to the utter most. Shall we live in sin now that grace abounds no!

Dcopymope said:

Simple and to the point, awesome, unrepentant sinners in the body of Christ gets tossed to the curb.

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And you seem pleased with that. what do we do with the sexualy imoral that hide it in the churchs like the pedeophiles that are rampant in the church. You talking like throw them out in the curb, like your church done that and they never did they? No your church leaders hid it and still hide it to this day. because it is ramant in your church. And because they dont want bad publicity or cliams agaisnt them. They took years to apoligise to some victims. All around the world you catholic church has victims who blood cries out from the grave, just like Abels.

Sword said:

And you seem pleased with that. what do we do with the sexualy imoral that hide it in the churchs like the pedeophiles that are rampant in the church. You talking like throw them out in the curb, like your church done that and they never did they? No your church leaders hid it and still hide it to this day. because it is ramant in your church. And because they dont want bad publicity or cliams agaisnt them. They took years to apoligise to some victims. All around the world you catholic church has victims who blood cries out from the grave, just like Abels.

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Sex abuse is even MORE rampant in Protestant circles.

Read the book, Pedophiles and Priests by Protestant author, Philip Jenkins.
Jenkins lays out the real statistics involving this problem and comes to the uncomfortable fact that sex abuse is FAR worse in the Protestant churches. The reason the salivating lawyers don't go after them is because of the lack of insurance money.

So - if you're going to go around condemning the Catholic Church for this problem - clean up your OWN backyard first.
Do your homework before posting again, Sword . . .

Sword said:

They took years to apoligise to some victims.

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and obviously most of them are still in denial, tra-la. Pointing fingers somewhere, anywhere else lol

BreadOfLife said:

Sex abuse is even MORE rampant in Protestant circles.

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proof?

Sword said:

proof?

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I already gave you the source:

Read the book, Pedophiles and Priests by Protestant author, Philip Jenkins.
Jenkins lays out the real statistics involving this problem and comes to the uncomfortable fact that sex abuse is FAR worse in the Protestant churches. The reason the salivating lawyers don't go after them is because of the lack of insurance money.

I am a firm believer that grace covers all sins of the flesh. That is what I get when i read the entire NT and not just a few cherry picked verses. And I muat admit that I don't like it nor understand it.

Kind of...

When I say grace covers all sins of the flesh, folks tend to scrape the bottom of the barrel. They will go to rape, murder, pedophilia and homosexuallity in the most perverse form. No, I don't understand why some of these things are forgiven. I certainly don't wqnt to forive them in the flesh.

However, Jesus, Paul, John and James (the half brother of Jesus) all in one wat or another said if you are guilty of one point of the law, you are guilty of the whole law.

Jesus even said if you so much as think to sin, you are just as guilty.

But look at Romans 5. Paul said that the law entered, that the offense might abound... This telks me that the Law was given to show we can't be perfect like God (in the flesh).

But then I read 1 Corinthians... Peopke should read the whole letter and not post quips of it. Paul, a champion of grace, was really upset with them concerning them pushing the limits. He basically said, "yea... All things are lawful for us, but that doesn't mean we shoyld do them because they don't bring glory to God! Now jnock it off, quit using your grace for a cloak of maliciousness and don't put up with those who do!"

That's what Paul was saying and it fits perfectly with what Peter said.

By God's grace, I believe I can rob a liquor store, run from the cops and die jumping off a building while trying to get away from them. But I will still be a criminal who dies committing suicide. I will bring reproach to my wife and my Church.

No... I ain't going to do that! Fur yes grace covers it.