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Isaiah 5:20-24. (King James Version) 20.Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!21.Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! 22.Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: 23.Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him! 24.Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel. Thou hast not known the teachings and truth of the prophets of God nor have you heeded the words of the Son of God.
 

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"Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends."John 15:13 (ESV)"When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, 'Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.'"Revelation 1:17-18 (ESV)"Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will beof no advantage to you. I testify again to every man who accepts circumcisionthat he is obligated to keep the whole law. You are severed from Christ,you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace."Galatians 5:2-4 (ESV)"For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedomas an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'"Galatians 5:13-14 (ESV)
 

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A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimDear Christians,I'm not trying to defend what was being questioned by IbnFarasat, but it is make me wonder with what you guys have answer regarding on what being questioned. You guys seems like dislike with what have been questioned, why ?Secondly, does any of those question was not make sense at all ? If that's so, which one of the question that doesn't make sense ?Thirdly, as people who has not faith of Christian, of course it is a natural think if they asking that they are not understand, if that the case the one who asking the questioned has asking politely so can get answer from you Christians, then why don't you just give the answer that he need ? Because it is your duties to give answer from someone that has not being save(*as per Christian faith).By saying this, i hope it can clarify what all this about.Regards,Ricky WWallaahu a'lam.
 

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"But if I, brothers, still preach circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been removed."Galatians 5:11 (ESV)
 

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Thou hast not known the teachings and truth of the prophets of God nor have you heeded the words of the Son of God.
He [Allah] is the Originator of the heavens and the earth. How can He have children when He has no wife? He created all things and He is the All-Knower of everything.[al-An’aam 6:101 – interpretation of the meaning]
 

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He [Allah] is the Originator of the heavens and the earth. How can He have children when He has no wife? He created all things and He is the All-Knower of everything.[al-An’aam 6:101 – interpretation of the meaning]
If God created all things and He is the all knower of everything, why can't He have a Son? Our understanding is so limited compared to God's. His ways are so much higher than ours. He does not need to have a wife to have a Son as we do.God does whatever God says.
 

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Thou hast not known the teachings and truth of the prophets of God nor have you heeded the words of the Son of God.
He [Allah] is the Originator of the heavens and the earth. How can He have children when He has no wife? He created all things and He is the All-Knower of everything.[al-An’aam 6:101 – interpretation of the meaning]You guys are messed up. Nowhere in the bible says that God had sex with Mary. To say so it quite blasphemeous and deceiving to us Christians. You aren't able to understand the Word of God, as He teaches is not carnally and worldly. He teaches in a spiritual way.Why lean onto a false god that can't save you? Why lean onto a book so worldly that it can't make you grow spiritually.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour.
 

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He [Allah] is the Originator of the heavens and the earth. How can He have children when He has no wife? He created all things and He is the All-Knower of everything.[al-An’aam 6:101 – interpretation of the meaning]
Yahwehs said he is the only God and his prophet/Son Jesus Christhas made him known. Hence the Son of Gods tomb is empty.Allah false God, Mahoment false prophet and like his god is still dead in his tomb.It is not hard to figure which God and prophet/son of God is the real one.Faithful.
 

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You guys are messed up. Nowhere in the bible says that God had sex with Mary. To say so it quite blasphemeous and deceiving to us Christians. You aren't able to understand the Word of God, as He teaches is not carnally and worldly. He teaches in a spiritual way.Why lean onto a false god that can't save you? Why lean onto a book so worldly that it can't make you grow spiritually.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour.
Which guys are messed up?:eek: I certainly hope you were not including me in that.
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You guys are messed up. Nowhere in the bible says that God had sex with Mary. To say so it quite blasphemeous and deceiving to us Christians. You aren't able to understand the Word of God, as He teaches is not carnally and worldly. He teaches in a spiritual way.Why lean onto a false god that can't save you? Why lean onto a book so worldly that it can't make you grow spiritually.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour.
Which guys are messed up?:eek: I certainly hope you were not including me in that.
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My post was what he replied to but not showing on this oneSorry if you got confused and no I was not referring to you. I was referring to people, who follows after another Jesus, another spirit and another gospel (II Corinthians 11:4), who goes after a dead god (Exodus 20:3), a dead prophet (I John 4:1), a dead book (Deuteronomy 4:2, Proverbs 30:6, Revelation 22:18-19)I only used your post (in a quote) to know who the poster who quoted your post. I aim all the time after the poster who quoted you. You already know who is the Truth.
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JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
 

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IbnFarasat;30548]O Christ-worshippers! We want an answer to our question [from your wise ones .If the Lord was murdered by some people’s act said:
Loving God, showing how sinful you are. And even taking [/u]His only Son to die for you, there is no greater love than that. We wonder! Was He pleased by what they did Him?------God must have cried, but He did it for YOU that you could be saved!!!!! If yes, blessed be they, they achieved His pleasure-------It was God's plan for YOUR SALVATION that you would not go to HELL !!!! But if He was discontented, this means their power has subjugated Him--- GOD could have stopped anytime, but it was HIS PLAN TO SAVE YOU FROM HELL - THE ONLY WAY!!!!! Was the whole entity [Heavens and the Earth] left without a Sustainer, so who answered the prayers---- How can your allah answer for all the muslims's prayers at the same time??? ---MY GOD IS ABLE TO DO ANYTHING,TO BE EVERYWHERE,ANYTIME Were the heavens vacated, when He laid under the ground somewhere.Were all the worlds left without a God, to manage while His hands were nailed? Why did not the angels help Him, when they heard him while he wailed?---- GOD WAS IN CONTROL ALL THE TIME !!! HE WAS ABLE TO BE ANYWHERE,ANYTIME!!!!! How could the rods stand to bear the True Lord when He was fastened. How could the irons reached Him and [had] His body pinned? ----THEY JUST DID !!!! How could His enemies’ hands reach Him and slap His rear ----- THEY JUST DID!!!!! And was Christ revived by himself, or the Reviver was another god----- THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD!!!! if you are still unsure about that. What a sight it was, a grave that enclosed a god.--- YEP, JESUS WON THE HELL BY DYING AND RISEN FROM THE DEAD!!!! What is more weird is the belly that had confined Him .He stayed there for nine months in utter darkness, fed by blood!----- What's so weird about the belly???? WE ARE SAVED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS!!!!!! Then he got out of the womb as a small baby weak and gasping to be breast.He ate and drank, and did what that naturally resulted, Is this [what you call] a god .----- YEP, THAT's MY AWESOME GOD. High Exalted be Allah above the lies of Christians.All of them will be held accountable for their libelsO Cross-worshippers!---- YOU WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR NOT BELIEVING IN JESUS DYING FOR YOUR SINS. REMEMBER,YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD THE TRUTH BUT YOU DID NOT BELIEVE IN IT. THIS MIGHT BE YOUR LAST CHANCE!!!! IT's NOT COINCIDENCE THAT YOU'RE HERE. OUR TRUE GOD HAS CALLED YOU, CHOICE IS YOURS!!!!! For what reason is this exalted and blame [is cast upon those] who reject it? Is it not logical to break and burn it, along with the one who innovated it? Since the Lord was crucified on it, and his hands were fastened to it? That is really a cursed cross to .So discard it, do not kiss it! COLOR=white]The Lord was abused on it, and you adore it?------ THE CROSS IS A WINNING SIGN!!!! JESUS WON THE HELL!!!!! SO,THAT YOU,YOURSELF WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO THERE!!!! So [it is clear that] you are one of His enemies! ------ YOU, YOURSELF SEEM TO BE HIS ENEMY BY YOUR OWN CHOICE. If you extol it because it carried the Lord of the Worlds .Why don’t you prostrate yourself and worship graves ---- I DON't NEED TO WORSHIP GRAVES, WHY WOULD I ANYWAY???? Since the grave contained your god in it.----------- muhammed is still there... JESUS ROSE FROM THE DEAD AND HE IS ALIVE TODAY!!!!! So Christ-worshipper, open your eyes. ------- My eyes are totally open,you prophet,muhammed worshipper,open your eyes to truth before is too late. THE END !!!!!!! This is what the matter is all about. :cross2: [list type=decimal]Urination and defecation Paul of Tarsus, founder of Trinitarian faith i.e., don't glorify it i.e., since someone who is a Christian abhors the idea of worshipping a grave, how is it possible for them to worship the cross? ------I don't worship a grave, I worship my God, His Son,Jesus and The Holy SpiritYour quran has Jesus in it and that does not mean anything to you anyway, Muhammed is so highly exalted even though He was just a man NOT the SON OF GOD. Muhammed is DEAD. Jesus is alive. quran takes only some part and leaves the other part out. It does not follow what Jesus did for you that you may enter the heaven. You are not able to enter the heaven without taking Jesus into your heart. :cross2: My God wants to save you brother. It's already been done, it's a gift to be received not be earned.JOHN 3:16
 

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If God created all things and He is the all knower of everything, why can't He have a Son? Our understanding is so limited compared to God's. His ways are so much higher than ours. He does not need to have a wife to have a Son as we do.God does whatever God says.
Thats because god is not like us;And there is none like unto Him[Surah ikhlas (Sincerity) 113:4]The 'son' (jesus) you are refering to is the son of Mary, if Mary was the one who gave birth to him and then you say that he (jesus) is gods son then logically that would imply god having a wife i.e. mary, then how can He be unique if the creator and the created have no distinction? If gods ways are so vast, would his needs be limited to that of a human being and needing a son in order to prove His existance?In the Qur'an Allah says to reflect on the creation of the heavens and the earth, something which man cannot create regardless of the advancement of technology, for example;Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day,- there are indeed Signs for men of understanding,- Men who celebrate the praises of Allah, standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides, and contemplate the (wonders of) creation in the heavens and the earth, (With the thought): "Our Lord! Thou createdst not this in vain. Glory be to Thee! Preserve us from the doom of Fire."[Surah Al-Imran 3:191-192]Allah says to contemplate on his creation, in this example the alternations of the night and the day are all signs of His infinite Might and Glory. And contemplation of the creation will remind you of the creator. Such was not the claim of jesus. The message of jesus was the same as all the prophets that came before him, and that was to worship none except Almighty god and associate no partners with Him. And Almighty god is Allah.
 

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You guys are messed up. Nowhere in the bible says that God had sex with Mary. To say so it quite blasphemeous and deceiving to us Christians. You aren't able to understand the Word of God, as He teaches is not carnally and worldly. He teaches in a spiritual way.Why lean onto a false god that can't save you? Why lean onto a book so worldly that it can't make you grow spiritually.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour.
Your words not mine, but what logically imply if Mary was the one who gave birth to jesus, and then you claim that it is gods son?
To say so it quite blasphemeous and deceiving
Exctally my point.
 

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Thunder1;30804][quote name= said:
O Christ-worshippers! We want an answer to our question [from your wise ones .If the Lord was murdered by some people’s act' date=' what kind of god is this? ------ [U']Loving God' date=' showing how sinful you are. And even taking [/u']His only Son to die for you, there is no greater love than that. We wonder! Was He pleased by what they did Him?------God must have cried, but He did it for YOU that you could be saved!!!!! If yes, blessed be they, they achieved His pleasure-------It was God's plan for YOUR SALVATION that you would not go to HELL !!!! But if He was discontented, this means their power has subjugated Him--- GOD could have stopped anytime, but it was HIS PLAN TO SAVE YOU FROM HELL - THE ONLY WAY!!!!! Was the whole entity [Heavens and the Earth] left without a Sustainer, so who answered the prayers---- How can your allah answer for all the muslims's prayers at the same time??? ---MY GOD IS ABLE TO DO ANYTHING,TO BE EVERYWHERE,ANYTIME Were the heavens vacated, when He laid under the ground somewhere.Were all the worlds left without a God, to manage while His hands were nailed? Why did not the angels help Him, when they heard him while he wailed?---- GOD WAS IN CONTROL ALL THE TIME !!! HE WAS ABLE TO BE ANYWHERE,ANYTIME!!!!! How could the rods stand to bear the True Lord when He was fastened. How could the irons reached Him and [had] His body pinned? ----THEY JUST DID !!!! How could His enemies’ hands reach Him and slap His rear ----- THEY JUST DID!!!!! And was Christ revived by himself, or the Reviver was another god----- THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD!!!! if you are still unsure about that. What a sight it was, a grave that enclosed a god.--- YEP, JESUS WON THE HELL BY DYING AND RISEN FROM THE DEAD!!!! What is more weird is the belly that had confined Him .He stayed there for nine months in utter darkness, fed by blood!----- What's so weird about the belly???? WE ARE SAVED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS!!!!!! Then he got out of the womb as a small baby weak and gasping to be breast.He ate and drank, and did what that naturally resulted, Is this [what you call] a god .----- YEP, THAT's MY AWESOME GOD. High Exalted be Allah above the lies of Christians.All of them will be held accountable for their libelsO Cross-worshippers!---- YOU WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR NOT BELIEVING IN JESUS DYING FOR YOUR SINS. REMEMBER,YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD THE TRUTH BUT YOU DID NOT BELIEVE IN IT. THIS MIGHT BE YOUR LAST CHANCE!!!! IT's NOT COINCIDENCE THAT YOU'RE HERE. OUR TRUE GOD HAS CALLED YOU, CHOICE IS YOURS!!!!! For what reason is this exalted and blame [is cast upon those] who reject it? Is it not logical to break and burn it, along with the one who innovated it? Since the Lord was crucified on it, and his hands were fastened to it? That is really a cursed cross to .So discard it, do not kiss it! COLOR=white]The Lord was abused on it, and you adore it?------ THE CROSS IS A WINNING SIGN!!!! JESUS WON THE HELL!!!!! SO,THAT YOU,YOURSELF WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO THERE!!!! So [it is clear that] you are one of His enemies! ------ YOU, YOURSELF SEEM TO BE HIS ENEMY BY YOUR OWN CHOICE. If you extol it because it carried the Lord of the Worlds .Why don’t you prostrate yourself and worship graves ---- I DON't NEED TO WORSHIP GRAVES, WHY WOULD I ANYWAY???? Since the grave contained your god in it.----------- muhammed is still there... JESUS ROSE FROM THE DEAD AND HE IS ALIVE TODAY!!!!! So Christ-worshipper, open your eyes. ------- My eyes are totally open,you prophet,muhammed worshipper,open your eyes to truth before is too late. THE END !!!!!!! This is what the matter is all about. :cross2: [list type=decimal]Urination and defecation Paul of Tarsus, founder of Trinitarian faith i.e., don't glorify it i.e., since someone who is a Christian abhors the idea of worshipping a grave, how is it possible for them to worship the cross? ------I don't worship a grave, I worship my God, His Son,Jesus and The Holy SpiritYour quran has Jesus in it and that does not mean anything to you anyway, Muhammed is so highly exalted even though He was just a man NOT the SON OF GOD. Muhammed is DEAD. Jesus is alive. quran takes only some part and leaves the other part out. It does not follow what Jesus did for you that you may enter the heaven. You are not able to enter the heaven without taking Jesus into your heart. :cross2: My God wants to save you brother. It's already been done, it's a gift to be received not be earned.JOHN 3:16
I understood nothing from your post because its too hard to read.
 

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Your words not mine, but what logically imply if Mary was the one who gave birth to jesus, and then you claim that it is gods son? Exctally my point.
Is God governed by the laws of men or the thoughts of mans heart or the deeds of mans hands?If you knew God you would not be speaking such foolishness.What you speak is not the true God. You speak as a man whos god is his own desires who fits god into the way he wants god to be.But the true Children of God as changed by the power of God, not the teachings of men.Jesus Christ is the Son of God just as Adam was a Son of God.Unlike Christ and Adam, you have never known the most High God.Faithful.
 

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You guys are messed up. Nowhere in the bible says that God had sex with Mary. To say so it quite blasphemeous and deceiving to us Christians. You aren't able to understand the Word of God, as He teaches is not carnally and worldly. He teaches in a spiritual way.Why lean onto a false god that can't save you? Why lean onto a book so worldly that it can't make you grow spiritually.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour.
Your words not mine, but what logically imply if Mary was the one who gave birth to jesus, and then you claim that it is gods son? Such foolishness. God is not bound by a human mind. His ways are higher than ours. His thoughts are higher than our thoughts. (Isaiah 55:8-9)(IbnFarasat;30880)
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To say so it quite blasphemeous and deceiving
Exctally my point.Then you should have known that Christians does not believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God because of God marry a human wife as there is NO SCRIPTURES that say that. But rather we believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, because He is God and He proclaim as God, as He came down from Heaven.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
 

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IbnFarasat;30881][QUOTE=Thunder1;30804]I understood nothing from your post because its too hard to read.[/QUOTE]You didn said:
lean not on your own understanding[/u]; in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will make your paths straight.
 

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Your words not mine, but what logically imply if Mary was the one who gave birth to jesus, and then you claim that it is gods son? Exctally my point.
wrong spelling, I still understood.We don't just claim, IT'S IN THE BIBLE. READ IT YOURSELF. THE GOSPELS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT. IT'S GOD'S WORD. NOT OURS.
 

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This is ridiculous. You are all barraging each other with insulting comments and scriptures without exegesis.Fine, I'll answer the questions.Please do ! In a future too ! Thanks for your support!God Bless ! Thunder1