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"truth" implies knowledge, but we see only darkly--so it just struck me funny, like asking a blind guy what he thinks of blue or something, to my mind.

That doesn't answer what I asked:

Mine was a serious question. What's the meaning of aletheia?

Take a read of the Oxford dictionary's definition (2017. s v truth).​
 

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Which means? You are dancing around your giving a definition of truth.
sorry, you did not ask for a definition of truth before, but some word i had to look up, and as i have no idea where you are going with this, i had no idea what context to answer in.

truth is a moving target.
 

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sorry, you did not ask for a definition of truth before, but some word i had to look up, and as i have no idea where you are going with this, i had no idea what context to answer in.

truth is a moving target.

Yes I did. I asked you: "What's the meaning of aletheia? Take a read of the Oxford dictionary's definition (2017. s v truth)".

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Jesus said. I am the way the truth and the life,

the bible says,

1Jn_5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

It also says

Joh_16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

so you see, men can persue learning, study teh bible, go to college get lovely certificates, learn greek latin, hebrew, and what does it all taht, point them to teh one that is teh truth of which He already spoke, Seems a long pointless circle to arrive at a destination already spoken of. A bit like following a GPS than getting stuck on a roundabout but never pulling over and getting out after you arrived. Teh bible does what Jesus said,

Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life

This has never changed,
 

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Truth! Truth I say unto you, Jesus said these very words while disputing with the religious leaders during His Ministry on this earth. In my statement of faith I explained about my First Encounter with My Savior, To this day It brings tears to my eyes! then I started to attend church, and reading the new testament, It was all so confusing to me. Reading the word then seeing how people lived, my own brother said to me that He could not except me as his brother unless I joined his Church. Yes there are so many different forms of truth out there, It can make one, question their own place of teaching. I came across a teacher that said read the whole bible, that way you will know who everyone is. so I started to read the Old Testament, for 7 + years I did not even open the New Testament, about 2 yeas ago I started to read the New Testament again and I am here to tell you that not only do I know most everyone, but I have found that I have a better understanding of the New Testament Scriptures, We have no need to be taught by men, but to be lead by the Spirit into all Truth, and the Truth will set you Free! from mans Interpretation, which I call Man Made Religion!!
 
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Why do you have a quarrel with God concerning the "countless interpretations of His word, yet God promised the church the Spirit of Truth" ? Jesus revealed that from the "one faith" (Eph 4:5) that he established and went into operation on Pentecost 33 C.E., there would come forth "weeds" or counterfeit Christians to the tune now of some 41,000 different denominations and sects that all say they are "Christian".

In his illustration of the "wheat and weeds" at Matthew 13, Jesus disclosed that he foreknew that his teachings would be twisted, distorted and completely "rewritten" by those professing to "know him". Thus, he divulged that there would arise a multitude of fake Christians establishing their own denominations and sects, as the apostle Paul wrote "that in later times some will fall away from the faith (note faith is singular, not plural, so that only one of the many thousands who profess Christianity is the right one), paying attention to misleading inspired statements and teachings of demons".(1 Tim 4:1)

Paul further said that these counterfeit Christians would "forbid marriage" as the Catholic church has done in teaching celibacy is a requirement for being a priest as well as "command people to abstain from foods that God created to be partaken of with thanksgiving" as the Catholic church has commanded to abstain from eating meat on "Good Friday".(1 Tim 4:3) Both these are marks of apostasy, for some of the apostles were married men (1 Cor 9:5), such as Peter.(Matt 8:14) This alone disqualifies the Catholic church. Paul also said that those who are "overseers" ("bishop" KJV) within the Christian congregation who are married has to be "a husband of one wife".(1 Tim 3:1, 2) And the eating of meat was given to Noah and his descendants until Jehovah changes this allowance to the way it was before the global deluge.(Gen 9:3) Thus, there is no "Good Friday" or forbidding of marriage in God's eyes, but there is among those have ' fallen away from the faith '.

In the illustration of the "wheat and weeds", Jesus said that "a man.....sowed fine seed in his field", with Jesus being the "man" and the "field" being the world of mankind alienated from God.(Matt 13:24, 38) Jesus then says that "while men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left".(Matt 13:25) The "enemy" Jesus revealed is "the Devil" ("Devil" means "slanderer", Gen 3:5; John 8:44) who "oversowed weeds (or imitation Christians) in among the wheat" of true Christians.(Matt 13:39)

The apostles were the ones who acted as a restraint from the incoming apostasy,("apostasy" means "a falling away" from "the truth") and in which the apostle Paul wrote that "you know (the apostles) what is acting as a restraint" to the foretold "apostasy".(2 Thess 2:3, 6) Hence, after their death or "while men were sleeping" (John was the last apostle to die in about 100 C.E.), true Christians ("wheat") were now beginning to be overtaken with "weeds" or counterfeit Christians so that by the 4th century, true Christians were considered as nonexistent.

Jesus set forth critical requirements for being a true Christian throughout his ministry, explaining that "few" would be on the ' cramped road' and go through the 'narrow gate' that leads to life, while the vast majority who profess to be his followers are on the ' spacious road ' that allows for all sorts of doctrines and practices that do not harmonize with the Bible.(Matt 7:13, 14) Their interpretations would be a deviation from what Jesus taught.

The critical requirements that Jesus taught have been altered, watered down, and out right changed by groups of individuals who want to "rewrite" what a Christian is, with Jesus calling these ones "weeds".(Jesus most likely alluded to the bearded darnel, a plant that looks like wheat until grown, so that at harvest time, a clear distinction can be seen. for wheat bends over while the bearded darnel keeps standing straight up)

And what did Jesus teach that clearly defines who are his true followers ? In responding to Satan's temptation concerning all the kingdoms of the earth being his for just one act of worship, Jesus said: "Go away Satan ! For it is written (at Deut 10:20): ' It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service'.(Matt 4:10) How many among the churches of Christendom worship Jehovah God as he has outlined in his Word the Bible ? None. In fact, the churches have hid Jehovah's name, supplanting it with "Lord" or God" in their Bibles as well as their personal language, treating his name "with disrespect".(Isa 52:5; see also Jer 23:27)

And then on the night before his death, Jesus gives this command to his eleven faithful apostles: "These things I command you, that you love one another. If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen out of the world, for this reason the world hates you".(John 15:17-19) What did Jesus mean here ?

That his genuine followers would avoid touching the "world" and its political arena in any form or fashion (that insidiously causes a person to become loveless), such as by running for political office, voting for a particular candidate or even having feelings for the political arena, even protesting for or against a certain political policy, for this would constitute spiritual adultery, and in which James wrote that "whoever wants to be a friend of the world is making himself an enemy of God".(James 4:4) True Christians are politically neutral so as to be "friends of God" (see Isa 41:8) and not his enemy while the churches of Christendom are totally immersed in the world of politics. Thus, the churches are to reap Jehovah's anger in the near future, whereby he will use the political "wild beast" (or political governments) to accomplish this.(Rev 17:12, 16)

Jesus said that his genuine followers would have love among themselves, unwilling to join, promote, or even have a mental inclination for the political "wild beast" and its military (see Rev. 13:16; the political governments are called a "wild beast" at Rev 13:1, 2, who tries to forcibly "mark" everyone "in their right hand" to give them support or at the very least, "on their forehead" by these ones giving mental or verbal support for the political governments).

In contrast with true Christians, the churches send off their young men to war, blessing the troops and weapons and in which during both world wars, German Catholics wore belt buckles with the inscribed words "Gott mit uns" (God is with us). How far they were from God, for he is seething with anger over their involvement in the wars of the nations. On the other hand, those who apply Jesus words: "Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you", show godly or agape love and do not participate in the wars of the nations and have God's favor.(Matt 5:44)

The field is becoming very "narrow" and "cramped" whereby only a "few" are willing to carefully follow Jesus teachings (Jesus said that those who strictly adhered to his teachings would need to "disown himself and pick up his torture stake and keep following me", Matt 16:24), such as unwilling to observe "holidays" based on pagan practices and doctrines, which include Christmas, Halloween, Easter, Mother's day, Father's day, New Years day, "feast days of saints", July 4th (in the United States), memorial day, etc.

Jesus words: "Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations......teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you" continue to define a true Christian.(Matt 28:19, 20) How many within the churches go from "house to house"(Acts 20:20), teaching individuals about God's Kingdom ? (Matt 24:14) None. And the reason why the "gate" continues to narrow is as Jesus said: "because they do not know the One (Jehovah God) who sent me".(John 15:21)

Hence, because of the myriads of interpretations (or perhaps more correctly misinterpretations) of Jesus words and the Bible, Christendom came into existence almost 1,700 years ago because of Roman Emperor Constantine support. Soon, it will disappear forever, but not forgotten for all the blood it has shed over its life and rightly placed at her feet by God (Rev 18:24), in conjunction with all the rest of the religions of the "world" that make up Babylon the Great.(Rev 18:8, 21; 19:1-3)
 
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VictoryinJesus--- would you be willing to do a little scripture search.!!! Go to Leviticus 23 - Read the Commandments about the Feasts of The LORD, the first Feasts are the Spring Feasts, then the narration changes!!! the narration starts to go to, When you Harvest your crops, do not harvest the corners of your fields, or go back and gleen, you shall leave that for Widows, orphans, the poor, and the strangers in your Land, I am the LORD. Then the narration goes back to the Fall Feasts. the time that Jesus was here on this earth, He Fulfilled the Spring Feasts, after His death and the giving of the Holy Spirit. Now at that point in time the Access to God through Jesus was available to all mankind, I ask you, do you see that when the narration changed to leaving the crops for the strangers in the land, that it might be a prophesy of the Gospel to the Gentiles. because the Fall Feasts have not been fulfilled yet, these last two thousand years are the time of the Gentiles. have you ever read were it says " When the Fullness of the Gentiles comes in" what do you think, Truth or just Me. also in one of the Gospels it says that if you can convert a Scrib, that he will bring out treasures from his house{scriptures} both old and new.
 
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The Johannine texts in John when Pilate asks of Jesus, what is truth, I think is a great chapter to read for this answer.

“‘You are a king, then!’ said Pilate. Jesus answered, ‘You are right in saying I am a king. In fact, for this reason I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.’” ‘What is truth?’ Pilate asked.”

John 18:37–38

Truth is that which corresponds to the power of God and the Holy Spirit that empowers this reality according to his divine plan, will, and for his glory.
 
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The Johannine texts in John when Pilate asks of Jesus, what is truth, I think is a great chapter to read for this answer.

“‘You are a king, then!’ said Pilate. Jesus answered, ‘You are right in saying I am a king. In fact, for this reason I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.’” ‘What is truth?’ Pilate asked.”

John 18:37–38

Truth is that which corresponds to the power of God and the Holy Spirit that empowers this reality according to his divine plan, will, and for his glory.
 

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The only truth is God. Everything else is creation - reflection of truth. Oops I already answered this - at least I am consistent
 
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The only truth is God. Everything else is creation - reflection of truth. Oops I already answered this - at least I am consistent
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Why do you have a quarrel with God concerning the "countless interpretations of His word, yet God promised the church the Spirit of Truth" ? Jesus revealed that from the "one faith" (Eph 4:5) that he established and went into operation on Pentecost 33 C.E., there would come forth "weeds" or counterfeit Christians to the tune now of some 41,000 different denominations and sects that all say they are "Christian".
Hello Guestman...... This is a well written, concise account of a continuous problem we have in this world until He comes with all His saints, in order to defeat the great Harlot ( who is filled with the blood of the innocent saints ) and all of her off spring ( all the other religions which sprang forth from the first organized/forced so called Christian religion. ) One thing I am not entirely sure about. Where did the name given to our Father, Jehovah, come from? When I have looked in the Old Testament all i could find was a reference to His name being pretty un pronounceable, as it only contains 4( is it? ) consonants. Some call Him Yhwy ( or similar ) some use ' Jehovah' But can you show me where we are told this please? All of us simply MUST put all of our pride and what we term our knowledge, empty ourselves of ourselves, and let Him build us up in the most Holy Faith, through Love, the very substance of our Father. Thank you for a great read......Blessings in Him Pia
In his illustration of the "wheat and weeds" at Matthew 13, Jesus disclosed that he foreknew that his teachings would be twisted, distorted and completely "rewritten" by those professing to "know him". Thus, he divulged that there would arise a multitude of fake Christians establishing their own denominations and sects, as the apostle Paul wrote "that in later times some will fall away from the faith (note faith is singular, not plural, so that only one of the many thousands who profess Christianity is the right one), paying attention to misleading inspired statements and teachings of demons".(1 Tim 4:1)

Paul further said that these counterfeit Christians would "forbid marriage" as the Catholic church has done in teaching celibacy is a requirement for being a priest as well as "command people to abstain from foods that God created to be partaken of with thanksgiving" as the Catholic church has commanded to abstain from eating meat on "Good Friday".(1 Tim 4:3) Both these are marks of apostasy, for some of the apostles were married men (1 Cor 9:5), such as Peter.(Matt 8:14) This alone disqualifies the Catholic church. Paul also said that those who are "overseers" ("bishop" KJV) within the Christian congregation who are married has to be "a husband of one wife".(1 Tim 3:1, 2) And the eating of meat was given to Noah and his descendants until Jehovah changes this allowance to the way it was before the global deluge.(Gen 9:3) Thus, there is no "Good Friday" or forbidding of marriage in God's eyes, but there is among those have ' fallen away from the faith '.

In the illustration of the "wheat and weeds", Jesus said that "a man.....sowed fine seed in his field", with Jesus being the "man" and the "field" being the world of mankind alienated from God.(Matt 13:24, 38) Jesus then says that "while men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat and left".(Matt 13:25) The "enemy" Jesus revealed is "the Devil" ("Devil" means "slanderer", Gen 3:5; John 8:44) who "oversowed weeds (or imitation Christians) in among the wheat" of true Christians.(Matt 13:39)

The apostles were the ones who acted as a restraint from the incoming apostasy,("apostasy" means "a falling away" from "the truth") and in which the apostle Paul wrote that "you know (the apostles) what is acting as a restraint" to the foretold "apostasy".(2 Thess 2:3, 6) Hence, after their death or "while men were sleeping" (John was the last apostle to die in about 100 C.E.), true Christians ("wheat") were now beginning to be overtaken with "weeds" or counterfeit Christians so that by the 4th century, true Christians were considered as nonexistent.

Jesus set forth critical requirements for being a true Christian throughout his ministry, explaining that "few" would be on the ' cramped road' and go through the 'narrow gate' that leads to life, while the vast majority who profess to be his followers are on the ' spacious road ' that allows for all sorts of doctrines and practices that do not harmonize with the Bible.(Matt 7:13, 14) Their interpretations would be a deviation from what Jesus taught.

The critical requirements that Jesus taught have been altered, watered down, and out right changed by groups of individuals who want to "rewrite" what a Christian is, with Jesus calling these ones "weeds".(Jesus most likely alluded to the bearded darnel, a plant that looks like wheat until grown, so that at harvest time, a clear distinction can be seen. for wheat bends over while the bearded darnel keeps standing straight up)

And what did Jesus teach that clearly defines who are his true followers ? In responding to Satan's temptation concerning all the kingdoms of the earth being his for just one act of worship, Jesus said: "Go away Satan ! For it is written (at Deut 10:20): ' It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service'.(Matt 4:10) How many among the churches of Christendom worship Jehovah God as he has outlined in his Word the Bible ? None. In fact, the churches have hid Jehovah's name, supplanting it with "Lord" or God" in their Bibles as well as their personal language, treating his name "with disrespect".(Isa 52:5; see also Jer 23:27)

And then on the night before his death, Jesus gives this command to his eleven faithful apostles: "These things I command you, that you love one another. If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen out of the world, for this reason the world hates you".(John 15:17-19) What did Jesus mean here ?

That his genuine followers would avoid touching the "world" and its political arena in any form or fashion (that insidiously causes a person to become loveless), such as by running for political office, voting for a particular candidate or even having feelings for the political arena, even protesting for or against a certain political policy, for this would constitute spiritual adultery, and in which James wrote that "whoever wants to be a friend of the world is making himself an enemy of God".(James 4:4) True Christians are politically neutral so as to be "friends of God" (see Isa 41:8) and not his enemy while the churches of Christendom are totally immersed in the world of politics. Thus, the churches are to reap Jehovah's anger in the near future, whereby he will use the political "wild beast" (or political governments) to accomplish this.(Rev 17:12, 16)

Jesus said that his genuine followers would have love among themselves, unwilling to join, promote, or even have a mental inclination for the political "wild beast" and its military (see Rev. 13:16; the political governments are called a "wild beast" at Rev 13:1, 2, who tries to forcibly "mark" everyone "in their right hand" to give them support or at the very least, "on their forehead" by these ones giving mental or verbal support for the political governments).

In contrast with true Christians, the churches send off their young men to war, blessing the troops and weapons and in which during both world wars, German Catholics wore belt buckles with the inscribed words "Gott mit uns" (God is with us). How far they were from God, for he is seething with anger over their involvement in the wars of the nations. On the other hand, those who apply Jesus words: "Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you", show godly or agape love and do not participate in the wars of the nations and have God's favor.(Matt 5:44)

The field is becoming very "narrow" and "cramped" whereby only a "few" are willing to carefully follow Jesus teachings (Jesus said that those who strictly adhered to his teachings would need to "disown himself and pick up his torture stake and keep following me", Matt 16:24), such as unwilling to observe "holidays" based on pagan practices and doctrines, which include Christmas, Halloween, Easter, Mother's day, Father's day, New Years day, "feast days of saints", July 4th (in the United States), memorial day, etc.

Jesus words: "Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations......teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you" continue to define a true Christian.(Matt 28:19, 20) How many within the churches go from "house to house"(Acts 20:20), teaching individuals about God's Kingdom ? (Matt 24:14) None. And the reason why the "gate" continues to narrow is as Jesus said: "because they do not know the One (Jehovah God) who sent me".(John 15:21)

Hence, because of the myriads of interpretations (or perhaps more correctly misinterpretations) of Jesus words and the Bible, Christendom came into existence almost 1,700 years ago because of Roman Emperor Constantine support. Soon, it will disappear forever, but not forgotten for all the blood it has shed over its life and rightly placed at her feet by God (Rev 18:24), in conjunction with all the rest of the religions of the "world" that make up Babylon the Great.(Rev 18:8, 21; 19:1-3)
 
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VictoryinJesus--- would you be willing to do a little scripture search.!!! Go to Leviticus 23 - Read the Commandments about the Feasts of The LORD, the first Feasts are the Spring Feasts, then the narration changes!!! the narration starts to go to, When you Harvest your crops, do not harvest the corners of your fields, or go back and gleen, you shall leave that for Widows, orphans, the poor, and the strangers in your Land, I am the LORD. Then the narration goes back to the Fall Feasts. the time that Jesus was here on this earth, He Fulfilled the Spring Feasts, after His death and the giving of the Holy Spirit. Now at that point in time the Access to God through Jesus was available to all mankind, I ask you, do you see that when the narration changed to leaving the crops for the strangers in the land, that it might be a prophesy of the Gospel to the Gentiles. because the Fall Feasts have not been fulfilled yet, these last two thousand years are the time of the Gentiles. have you ever read were it says " When the Fullness of the Gentiles comes in" what do you think, Truth or just Me. also in one of the Gospels it says that if you can convert a Scrib, that he will bring out treasures from his house{scriptures} both old and new.
Hi there 'Truth'...........I wrote a reply on that post, but had inserted my reply in the wrong place, you can see my reply to 'Guestman on his post, after a few of his paragraphs, just after he mentions 41, 000 different denominations. Sorry about that... Peace in Him........Pia
 

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I have had my heart bruised by a Jehovah's witness, It was my older Brother, Just after I came into the faith I went to visit him, and he told me that we were not brothers unless I joined his sect. we haven't spoken sense. But do not be harsh with them for their pronunciation of the name of God is close, after studying from a Karite Jew, who doesn't believe in The Savior, he has found in the Hebrew Scriptures, the 4 countenances with all the vowel pointing's in place. The name should be pronounced Ya-Ho-Vah, there is no J sound in the Hebrew Language. also the letter J is only about Four hundred and fifty years old. in the 1611 KJV there is no J"s, only I"s , and Jesus was spelled Iesus,in the Greek it would be Pronounced Hay-Sus, like in Spanish. We can learn much from our Jewish brothers if you can find one willing to show you treasures from the Old Testament. In the Last Days there will be Ten Men From Every Nation, they will Take Hold of the Garment of the Jew, and say ley Us Go With You, We Know that God is With You. also That in the Last Days the Gentiles will Cry Out in Repentance, saying surly we have inherited Lies from Our Forefathers, shall we make gods fore ourselves that are not of God at all. Just paraphrasing! But they are in the old testament prophecy's! I will go through my notes and post the book, chapt, and verses
Jeremiah-16 vers 19-21---- the last word in verse 21 should be Yahovah.
 
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