The book of Job - real or allegorical?
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“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
This is always the slippery slope presented by people who are afraid their Jesus is going to be made into a myth. Would the message of Jesus be diminished if he turned out to be a different type of person than the KJV describes or perhaps a couple of different people? Would you renounce your faith if the gospels ended up not being historically accurate? I would not. The message of salvation and the transformation from selfishness to selflessness is the essence of the gospel.
I happened to believe Jesus is a historical figure, but my belief in Him is centered on the Way He has provided for us - I would follow it because it is the meaning of life, not because Jesus needs my support.
I think it is misguided to make Jesus into a cult of personality - Christianity is not a club or a tribe we belong to - it is a way of living that transforms followers into people who love God and Neighbor.
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So this thread is still going. I haven't looked at it for a while 
I have to agree with Stranger on this one. If we say it was not a real event...then as he said...where does that stop?
Eden not real? , Noah not real ? The burning bush not real? .Goliiath never really happened ?
Jesus said whenever He was speaking a parable, ...Paul said when he used an allegory . So why on earth would we decide that Job was not real when it says-
" There was a man in the land of Uz, who's name was Job."
Once we start doubting that it means what it says...to me, that is a slippery slope, what do we choose next to 'not be what it says'?
Anyway...that just my two cents.
I have to agree with Stranger on this one. If we say it was not a real event...then as he said...where does that stop?
Eden not real? , Noah not real ? The burning bush not real? .Goliiath never really happened ?
Jesus said whenever He was speaking a parable, ...Paul said when he used an allegory . So why on earth would we decide that Job was not real when it says-
" There was a man in the land of Uz, who's name was Job."
Once we start doubting that it means what it says...to me, that is a slippery slope, what do we choose next to 'not be what it says'?
Anyway...that just my two cents.
Dcopymope
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So this thread is still going. I haven't looked at it for a while
I have to agree with Stranger on this one. If we say it was not a real event...then as he said...where does that stop?
Eden not real? , Noah not real ? The burning bush not real? .Goliiath never really happened ?
Jesus said whenever He was speaking a parable, ...Paul said when he used an allegory . So why on earth would we decide that Job was not real when it says-
" There was a man in the land of Uz, who's name was Job."
Once we start doubting that it means what it says...to me, that is a slippery slope, what do we choose next to 'not be what it says'?
Anyway...that just my two cents.
I get a real kick out of the Hebrew rooters about as much as the allegory spin doctors, they are mutually exclusive. When something that is plainly stated in scripture that even a damn nine year old can see doesn't line up with their private interpretation, its "oh but the HEBREW version says" and/or "oh but what it REALLY symbolically means is" blah blah blah. You often see the allegory spin doctors rear their ugly head starting from the very beginning of Genesis with their private interpretation of what they claim the two tree's in Eden really meant. They know who they are, no need to call them out.
The slippery slope or false teaching is to say the people in the Bible were not real people and their experiences with God were not real experiences.
Christianity is all about the Person of Jesus Christ. He is worthy of our worship. (Matt. 2:11), (Matt. 8:2), (Matt. 9:18), (Matt. 14:33), (Matt.15:25), (Matt. 28:9-17), (Rev. 5:11-14)
Stranger
It does make a difference as I have showed you. Just because you're interested in the allegory doesn't make the story an allegory. It doesn't make the Bible an allegory.
I'm not into proving the facts. I'm into believing what the Bible says.
Stranger
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Yet, Christians discount LDS doctrine partly because there is zero evidence of Laminite or Nephite civilizations in the Americas; while overlooking the same amount of evidence for a historical Jewish capitivity and Exodus from Egypt. We have plenty of historical evidence of a Babylonian captivity, which makes the Exodus account even more troubling
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Who cares? What does that have to do with the Job or other Bible characters being real?
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aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Then you should believe your 'evidence' and I will believe the Bible. There is that.
Stranger
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you can believe Job was real if you like, what does it matter? You will never meet him, or see physical proof that he existed; so how does Job's "realness" make any effective difference to you? Or the lessons in Job?
I'm going to meet him and will be honored to shake his hand, though this will be some time after the Lord's return. Jesus loves the faithful ones and so should we, but until your metal is tried its hard to receive some things.
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ok well rather than argue against that, is there some reason that the spiritual lessons of Job could not be applied right now, regardless? That strikes me as the point, not whether you will actually ever meet Job or not.
Sure. That is the point. I used Job's life in my testimony and consequently have been tried and tested with the loss of nearly everything important to me in this life. Even my inheritance from the Lord looks like it may suffer complete desolation, but He remains my true reward and that is more than enough for my joy to be complete.
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ok, i get what you are saying, but note how pretty much everyone does this same thing? We all put ourselves in the place of Job lol, because we read "righteous man;" and no one gets the part of the story where Job was sinning, and repented. Twice (for a Witness)
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I can't see for the life of me ,why people "want" or need it to be an allegory...!! How does that make things easier for them?
( Personally , where the two trees in Eden are concerned...I believe once again its not either or, but both.
I believe the account of Genesis..but I also believe God speaks in pictures too..for our tiny brains to comprehend.
I find much if not all of the bible is literal as well spiritually understood.
But whoops, that is going off topic)
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