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bbyrd009 · Jul 31, 2017

Job said:
This is called baiting.

ha i thought it was a pretty good Q? Why do you deem it baiting? ty

BreadOfLife · Jul 31, 2017

mjrhealth said:
No judging here, teh fruit is obvious it is rotten and stinks.

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Uh-huh - and what do yo think will happen to those false prophets??
They will be judged harshly - not the Church.

It's as simple as that, Einstein . . .

BreadOfLife · Jul 31, 2017

mjrhealth said:
Angry, whos using the bold letters, I have nothing to be angry about, you chose your religion we have chosen Him, it is your choice not His. Cant help it if belonging to Him makes you angry, all you need do is ask. As i said before, salavtion is in Him alo0ne, no back doors.

And you're STILL not in His Church . . .

BreadOfLife · Jul 31, 2017

michaelvpardo said:
Hi Scott, Don't sweat the small stuff from the adversary, the Lord Himself will deal with this one in 3 days so that He learns not to blaspheme his God. It's going to get awfully hot for him and a consuming fire will threaten his house and he will know that it's from the Lord. Even this is an act of grace on the Lord's part, because this is about unification of the body of Christ (and not the promotion of some institution).

tabletalk said:
3 days have passed. Did a "consuming fire threaten his house"?

Nope.
I didn't get so much as a hangnail, which exposes michaelvpardo as nothing more than a FALSE prophet.

michaelvpardo · Jul 31, 2017

tabletalk said:
3 days have passed. Did a "consuming fire threaten his house"?

Actually 2 days have passed, but sometimes days are years and I find it confusing to say the least. I've made more than one prediction based upon what the scripture says in regard to the works of the adversary and as yet not one of those individuals has returned with a mocking comment, though perhaps they were just being kind to an old nut. Or perhaps those individuals got on their knees and the Lord heard. I don't really know. What I do these days, I do by faith, and it's the Lord who shows me what is appropriate from His written word.
(And in this case it was Zechariah and the curse on the flying scroll.) Eventually it could consume the planet, and quite possibly in less than a year, but I'm inclined to believe that judgment falls on the U.S. before the return of Christ if there is no great turning to the Lord in repentance. I've been wrong in my understanding of things before; I believed in a pretribulation rapture until the Lord taught me the truth in that regard. But I have a pretty good understanding of what Bread of life is about, and I don't fault Him for his zeal. It's just impossible for him to understand the word in spiritual ways until the Lord breathes new life into him and breaks down his idol (the institution that he lives to defend.)
I don't want to see the Vatican fall or Rome destroyed or any such thing, and neither does the Lord, but will repentance come in time? The end comes when the holy people have lost their power and their power is from the word. There is no faith without the hearing of the word of God, and the gospel is His power unto salvation. The Earth has been in travail for some time and the birth pangs get closer each day. The world is trying to delay global warming, but the warming is primarily from changes in the sun, not human activity. Some want to escape to Mars, a barren and lifeless place, and would terraform it but the effects of the sun range out at least to the gas giants so it seems like a vain thing. Its going to get very hot before the great and terrible day.
7. Then the earth shook and trembled; The foundations of the hills also quaked and were shaken, Because He was angry.8. Smoke went up from His nostrils, And devouring fire from His mouth; Coals were kindled by it.9. He bowed the heavens also, and came down With darkness under His feet.10. And He rode upon a cherub, and flew; He flew upon the wings of the wind.11. He made darkness His secret place; His canopy around Him was dark waters And thick clouds of the skies.12. From the brightness before Him, His thick clouds passed with hailstones and coals of fire.13. The Lord also thundered in the heavens, And the Most High uttered His voice, Hailstones and coals of fire.14. He sent out His arrows and scattered the foe, Lightnings in abundance, and He vanquished them.15. Then the channels of waters were seen, And the foundations of the world were uncovered At Your rebuke, O Lord, At the blast of the breath of Your nostrils. Psalms 18:7-15

BreadOfLife · Jul 31, 2017

michaelvpardo said:
Actually 2 days have passed, but sometimes days are years and I find it confusing to say the least. I've made more than one prediction based upon what the scripture says in regard to the works of the adversary and as yet not one of those individuals has returned with a mocking comment, though perhaps they were just being kind to an old nut. Or perhaps those individuals got on their knees and the Lord heard. I don't really know. What I do these days, I do by faith, and it's the Lord who shows me what is appropriate from His written word.
(And in this case it was Zechariah and the curse on the flying scroll.) Eventually it could consume the planet, and quite possibly in less than a year, but I'm inclined to believe that judgment falls on the U.S. before the return of Christ if there is no great turning to the Lord in repentance. I've been wrong in my understanding of things before; I believed in a pretribulation rapture until the Lord taught me the truth in that regard. But I have a pretty good understanding of what Bread of life is about, and I don't fault Him for his zeal. It's just impossible for him to understand the word in spiritual ways until the Lord breathes new life into him and breaks down his idol (the institution that he lives to defend.)
I don't want to see the Vatican fall or Rome destroyed or any such thing, and neither does the Lord, but will repentance come in time? The end comes when the holy people have lost their power and their power is from the word. There is no faith without the hearing of the word of God, and the gospel is His power unto salvation. The Earth has been in travail for some time and the birth pangs get closer each day. The world is trying to delay global warming, but the warming is primarily from changes in the sun, not human activity. Some want to escape to Mars, a barren and lifeless place, and would terraform it but the effects of the sun range out at least to the gas giants so it seems like a vain thing. Its going to get very hot before the great and terrible day.
7. Then the earth shook and trembled; The foundations of the hills also quaked and were shaken, Because He was angry.8. Smoke went up from His nostrils, And devouring fire from His mouth; Coals were kindled by it.9. He bowed the heavens also, and came down With darkness under His feet.10. And He rode upon a cherub, and flew; He flew upon the wings of the wind.11. He made darkness His secret place; His canopy around Him was dark waters And thick clouds of the skies.12. From the brightness before Him, His thick clouds passed with hailstones and coals of fire.13. The Lord also thundered in the heavens, And the Most High uttered His voice, Hailstones and coals of fire.14. He sent out His arrows and scattered the foe, Lightnings in abundance, and He vanquished them.15. Then the channels of waters were seen, And the foundations of the world were uncovered At Your rebuke, O Lord, At the blast of the breath of Your nostrils. Psalms 18:7-15

Sooooo - THAT'S your excuse for your ridiculous FALSE prophecy??
That "days" are sometimes "years"??

Consider yourself exposed, my Scripturally-bankrupt friend.
Only GOD has the Authority to punish. Not only are you NOT God - you're not even very good at fortune telling.

Maybe you should get a job as a telephone psychic, since their predictions aren't worth squat, either . . .

Job · Jul 31, 2017

bbyrd009 said:
ha i thought it was a pretty good Q? Why do you deem it baiting? ty

Because it asks you to choose whose prayers would be answered by God, the catholics or the non-catholics.
I also considered the source. She's a catholic who likes to argue.

Also back in the day before I knew better, I used to do the same thing.

bbyrd009 · Jul 31, 2017

Job said:
Because it asks you to choose whose prayers would be answered by God, the catholics or the non-catholics.

then let's de-fuse the Q, and make it Baptists and Methodists; whose prayers might be answered then, do you think? The answer imo is "neither," as both are praying to God as Santa Claus lol, but that is just imo

Job · Jul 31, 2017

bbyrd009 said:
then let's de-fuse the Q, and make it Baptists and Methodists; whose prayers might be answered then, do you think? The answer imo is "neither," as both are praying to God as Santa Claus lol, but that is just imo

I agree. Neither.

michaelvpardo · Jul 31, 2017

BreadOfLife said:
Sooooo - THAT'S your excuse for your ridiculous FALSE prophecy??
That "days" are sometimes "years"??

Consider yourself exposed, my Scripturally-bankrupt friend.
Only GOD has the Authority to punish. Not only are you NOT God - you're not even very good at fortune telling.

Maybe you should get a job as a telephone psychic, since their predictions aren't worth squat, either . . .

Try reading Genesis chapter 1 and think real hard about what God calls the start of a day. See yah, wouldn't want to be yah.

BreadOfLife · Jul 31, 2017

michaelvpardo said:
Try reading Genesis chapter 1 and think real hard about what God calls the start of a day. See yah, wouldn't want to be yah.

Genesis 1:3-5 explains exactly what a "Day" is:
And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

Pretty simple, really.

YOU have been exposed as a FALSE prophet for trying to predict some sort of malady in my life within 3 days - and it did NOT come to pass.
You're as phony as William Miller, Harold Camping, Charles Taze Russel and every other false prophet kook that tried to violate God's word . . .

michaelvpardo · Jul 31, 2017

BreadOfLife said:
Genesis 1:3-5 explains exactly what a "Day" is:
And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

Pretty simple, really.

YOU have been exposed as a FALSE prophet for trying to predict some sort of malady in my life within 3 days - and it did NOT come to pass.
You're as phony as William Miller, Harold Camping, Charles Taze Russel and every other false prophet kook that tried to violate God's word . . .

Yes, there was evening, and there was morning - one day.
Things are definitely getting hot in some places: Northwestern US heat wave to jeopardize all-time record highs at midweek
But you don't live anywhere near where the wild fires are starting to break out, right?

michaelvpardo · Jul 31, 2017

Then I turned and raised my eyes, and saw there a flying scroll. And he said to me, "What do you see?'' So I answered, "I see a flying scroll. Its length is twenty cubits and its width ten cubits.'' Then he said to me, "This is the curse that goes out over the face of the whole earth: `Every thief shall be expelled,' according to what is on this side of the scroll; and, `Every perjurer shall be expelled,' according to what is on that side of it.'' "I will send out the curse,'' says the Lord of hosts; "It shall enter the house of the thief and the house of the one who swears falsely by My name. It shall remain in the midst of his house and consume it, with its timber and stones.'' Zechariah 5:1-4
By the way, perjury is giving false witness.

BreadOfLife · Jul 31, 2017

michaelvpardo said:
Then I turned and raised my eyes, and saw there a flying scroll. And he said to me, "What do you see?'' So I answered, "I see a flying scroll. Its length is twenty cubits and its width ten cubits.'' Then he said to me, "This is the curse that goes out over the face of the whole earth: `Every thief shall be expelled,' according to what is on this side of the scroll; and, `Every perjurer shall be expelled,' according to what is on that side of it.'' "I will send out the curse,'' says the Lord of hosts; "It shall enter the house of the thief and the house of the one who swears falsely by My name. It shall remain in the midst of his house and consume it, with its timber and stones.'' Zechariah 5:1-4
By the way, perjury is giving false witness.

Then YOU should be really worried . . .

BreadOfLife · Jul 31, 2017

michaelvpardo said:
Yes, there was evening, and there was morning - one day.
Things are definitely getting hot in some places: Northwestern US heat wave to jeopardize all-time record highs at midweek
But you don't live anywhere near where the wild fires are starting to break out, right?

Nope.
Eternal fire is what should scare YOU - not forest fires.

michaelvpardo · Jul 31, 2017

BreadOfLife said:
Then YOU should be really worried . . .

I have no fear for the Lord is my shield and my defender.
Tick tock.

michaelvpardo · Jul 31, 2017

tabletalk said:
3 days have passed. Did a "consuming fire threaten his house"?

God's calendar starts with darkness, not with light. This is why the Jews reckon the beginning of the day at sundown, not daybreak, as God spoke in Genesis chapter 1. I wish that they would reckon the year as beginning at the 1st passover as God has commanded, but they've always had trouble with obedience.
BTW, when the Lord talks about a house, he could be speaking of a structure, or he could be speaking of a people, or a family. His use of terms are broader than hours. Eventually the curse will consume the whole earth if men don't take the things that they see to heart. Prophecy is light from a dark place and even the NT prophets have written things which obviously were not true in their time though they anticipated them. I don't understand everything that the Lord is doing, I just say what He gives me to say and do what he gives me to do. If I am a false prophet as mr. BOL asserts, then I can tell you that according to scripture I was still sent by the Lord, but I don't think that's the case.

aspen · Jul 31, 2017

bbyrd009 said:
then let's de-fuse the Q, and make it Baptists and Methodists; whose prayers might be answered then, do you think? The answer imo is "neither," as both are praying to God as Santa Claus lol, but that is just imo

So....God only answers prayer based on merit? Sounds like an abusive parent, not God.

aspen · Jul 31, 2017

So....here is what I have learned from this thread:

1. My naive idea that Catholics are polite, committed to witnessing by attraction, and different from Protestants like James White and other Internet bullies who mock and scoff and belittle people with their truth; has been shattered.

2. Truth can be distorted and used to eat away the faith of people.

3. The Pharisees were not challenged and condemned by Jesus for incorrect doctrine; they, like many Catholics are Dead right.

Amen

BreadOfLife · Jul 31, 2017

michaelvpardo said:
I was still sent by the Lord, but I don't think that's the case.

Yeah - nobody else here does either . . .

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