Super Kal has a point and i can veiw his thought as more reasonable because god really does love us that much.
Is masturbation a sin?
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Okay,Masturbation is a major topic of the world today in my opinion,In the bible it does not specifically mention it,But it does mention LUST,(JOB 31:11-12),"For lust is a shameful sin,a crime that should be punished.It is a fire that burns all the way to hell.It would wipe out everything I own."First off what is lust? It is a strong sexual feeling we get for somebody. And when we "masturbate" We usually do it out of lust. Lust is basically pleasing yourself,wit h no consequences.passion and greed...So when we masturbate we are going against God,we are using our body in a way that is not Holy. God has spoken against prostitution,saying it is wrong,So really when we are masturbating we are prostitutes on our own bodys,In the end all I am saying is Masturbation is wrong:blessyou:
I apologize, let me rephrase myself:Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. (Super Kal;32036)
I'm sorry, but this is where I completely disagree... if masturbation is a sin, then it's a sin... but like any other sin, you can be forgiven.... God loves us that much.Eternal life with our Lord God does not revolve around if one masturbates or what kind of sins one commits... it's about accepting Jesus Christ into your life as your personal savior.That is the deciding factor in salvation.
I'm sorry, but this is where I completely disagree... if masturbation is a sin, then it's a sin... but like any other sin, you can be forgiven.... God loves us that much.Eternal life with our Lord God does not revolve around if one masturbates or what kind of sins one commits... it's about accepting Jesus Christ into your life as your personal savior.That is the deciding factor in salvation.
I love Christ with all my heart, but I still sin. Does that mean that I'm gonna go to hell? no. By accepting Christ into my life, God saved my soul from eternal hell.I believe that when he said "No immoral, impure or greedy person... has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God", he was talking about a man that has not accept Christ as his personal Savior. He can do all the good things in his life, but it won't do him any good. In that case, yes he is a sinner, and he is condemned to hell, but all that changes when that person accepts Christ into his heart, hence the term "born again." Christ's love and sacrifice cleanses us of that original sin that occurred in the Garden of Eden, and gives us a clean slate.God knows that all of us will never be perfect... He doesn't expect us to be. All He asks us is to life how Christ lived. He knows that we will all fall eventually to our own personal temptations and addictions. The goal in life is to not try and be perfect, because for us, that is impossible.For a long time, I myself was extremely hateful towards God, and I hated everything about Him, and I still called myself a "Christian". I even tried to commit suicide 4 times in 04... I was the perfect example of a hypocrite, and yet God still came down and showed how powerful His forgiveness is and what it truly meant to be forgiven.God loves us SO much, He is willing to forgive us daily and bless us, even though sometimes we don't feel like we deserve it. The best thing we can do is learn from the sins that we have done, and with Christ's help, pick ourselves up, learn from our failures, and become a stronger and better person from our experiences.
(Super Kal;32115)
I love Christ with all my heart, but I still sin. Does that mean that I'm gonna go to hell? no. By accepting Christ into my life, God saved my soul from eternal hell.I believe that when he said "No immoral, impure or greedy person... has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God", he was talking about a man that has not accept Christ as his personal Savior. He can do all the good things in his life, but it won't do him any good. In that case, yes he is a sinner, and he is condemned to hell, but all that changes when that person accepts Christ into his heart, hence the term "born again." Christ's love and sacrifice cleanses us of that original sin that occurred in the Garden of Eden, and gives us a clean slate.God knows that all of us will never be perfect... He doesn't expect us to be. All He asks us is to life how Christ lived. He knows that we will all fall eventually to our own personal temptations and addictions. The goal in life is to not try and be perfect, because for us, that is impossible.For a long time, I myself was extremely hateful towards God, and I hated everything about Him, and I still called myself a "Christian". I even tried to commit suicide 4 times in 04... I was the perfect example of a hypocrite, and yet God still came down and showed how powerful His forgiveness is and what it truly meant to be forgiven.God loves us SO much, He is willing to forgive us daily and bless us, even though sometimes we don't feel like we deserve it. The best thing we can do is learn from the sins that we have done, and with Christ's help, pick ourselves up, learn from our failures, and become a stronger and better person from our experiences.
See yes God loves us more than anyone in the world ever could,your mom or dad or whatever!!!,And yes you do have to accept Christ into your life,but once he is in does not mean you can sin without punishment,just because you accepted into your life,you must REPENT for your sinsYour right he does not expect us to be perfect,but he does expect us to try,and to follow Jesus as closely as possibleI am glad to hear you came to God,That is truly God working in you!!!And God,yes he is willing to forgive our sins and bless us on a daily basis!!!,BUT if we do not REPENT then how can he truly forgive us!!We all need to learn from our sins,we all will fall sometimes to sin,but that is like you said what is great about our LORD,he offers forgiveness of those who ask
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I love Christ with all my heart, but I still sin. Does that mean that I'm gonna go to hell? no. By accepting Christ into my life, God saved my soul from eternal hell.I believe that when he said "No immoral, impure or greedy person... has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God", he was talking about a man that has not accept Christ as his personal Savior. He can do all the good things in his life, but it won't do him any good. In that case, yes he is a sinner, and he is condemned to hell, but all that changes when that person accepts Christ into his heart, hence the term "born again." Christ's love and sacrifice cleanses us of that original sin that occurred in the Garden of Eden, and gives us a clean slate.God knows that all of us will never be perfect... He doesn't expect us to be. All He asks us is to life how Christ lived. He knows that we will all fall eventually to our own personal temptations and addictions. The goal in life is to not try and be perfect, because for us, that is impossible.For a long time, I myself was extremely hateful towards God, and I hated everything about Him, and I still called myself a "Christian". I even tried to commit suicide 4 times in 04... I was the perfect example of a hypocrite, and yet God still came down and showed how powerful His forgiveness is and what it truly meant to be forgiven.God loves us SO much, He is willing to forgive us daily and bless us, even though sometimes we don't feel like we deserve it. The best thing we can do is learn from the sins that we have done, and with Christ's help, pick ourselves up, learn from our failures, and become a stronger and better person from our experiences.
See yes God loves us more than anyone in the world ever could,your mom or dad or whatever!!!,And yes you do have to accept Christ into your life,but once he is in does not mean you can sin without punishment,just because you accepted into your life,you must REPENT for your sinsYour right he does not expect us to be perfect,but he does expect us to try,and to follow Jesus as closely as possibleI am glad to hear you came to God,That is truly God working in you!!!And God,yes he is willing to forgive our sins and bless us on a daily basis!!!,BUT if we do not REPENT then how can he truly forgive us!!We all need to learn from our sins,we all will fall sometimes to sin,but that is like you said what is great about our LORD,he offers forgiveness of those who ask
Who do masturbation?Men. Single? Married? ALL.Why do they do it?To enjoy themselves or to release from sexual desire.Those who are married and have wife, have a chance of releasing themselves with their wife but for those who are singles and do not have wife, what are they going to do? Find a pros? Find a woman? Have sex with others by force? (Rape)What happen when they don't do such a things but release their sexual desire in their own room by doing masturbation? Psychologically speaking which solution is better?The scripture do not say that you must not masturbate. (no such word). But lust is a sin. The scripture says "self control". Control your heart and sinful desire. Is masturbation is a kind of "self control" from commiting sexual sin? If masturbation is a sin (the wadges of sin is death) and deserve punishment how many Christians are going to hell?But most people consider masturbation as shameful act if not sinful act.
I Will Warn All Of You Men That Consider Masturbation An Escape From Sin And Not Sin, That If You Teach This Lie! Thus Saith The Lord You Shall Have Your Name Removed From The Book Of Life! You Sympathizers Of Sin! Those Who Leaven The Unleavened Bread! Don't Compromise The Ways, Of The Word Of God!
(Unorthodox Christian;32185)
I Will Warn All Of You Men That Consider Masturbation An Escape From Sin And Not Sin, That If You Teach This Lie! Thus Saith The Lord You Shall Have Your Name Removed From The Book Of Life! You Sympathizers Of Sin! Those Who Leaven The Unleavened Bread! Don't Compromise The Ways, Of The Word Of God!
You may want to cut back on the Caps. An entire paragraph full of capitalized words makes for difficult reading.You might also want to cut back on trying to put words into God's mouth that he didn't say. I believe that there are few worse ways of taking the Lord's name in vain than to quote Him incorrectly or out of context.On the subject itself, I have a very hard time believing that masturbation itself is a sin. As one poster above so eloquently put it, it's "emptying the sac". If you don't empty the sac, especially in the teen years, it can be intensely physically painful until you do, like holding in your bladder indefinitely. Believe me, I tried. And when is this pain the worst? When you're at your libidinous peak, between the ages of about 14-18, before marriagable age even in ancient times.Why did the Creator of the world, in all His wisdom, put a woman's masturbatory organs on the outside of the body, where they are conveniently placed for masturbation, but not strictly necessary or even always terribly useful during sex itself?Jesus said that His burden is not heavy, not that you have to walk about bandylegged from pain...
I Will Warn All Of You Men That Consider Masturbation An Escape From Sin And Not Sin, That If You Teach This Lie! Thus Saith The Lord You Shall Have Your Name Removed From The Book Of Life! You Sympathizers Of Sin! Those Who Leaven The Unleavened Bread! Don't Compromise The Ways, Of The Word Of God!
You may want to cut back on the Caps. An entire paragraph full of capitalized words makes for difficult reading.You might also want to cut back on trying to put words into God's mouth that he didn't say. I believe that there are few worse ways of taking the Lord's name in vain than to quote Him incorrectly or out of context.On the subject itself, I have a very hard time believing that masturbation itself is a sin. As one poster above so eloquently put it, it's "emptying the sac". If you don't empty the sac, especially in the teen years, it can be intensely physically painful until you do, like holding in your bladder indefinitely. Believe me, I tried. And when is this pain the worst? When you're at your libidinous peak, between the ages of about 14-18, before marriagable age even in ancient times.Why did the Creator of the world, in all His wisdom, put a woman's masturbatory organs on the outside of the body, where they are conveniently placed for masturbation, but not strictly necessary or even always terribly useful during sex itself?Jesus said that His burden is not heavy, not that you have to walk about bandylegged from pain...
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I believe that when he said "No immoral, impure or greedy person... has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God", he was talking about a man that has not accept Christ as his personal Savior. .
That's not what it says. Matter o fact try this one on for size:1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. "Were" signifies past tense.Again back to the original verse..Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; Masturbation practiced is fornication, uncleanness, and lust/covetousness. There is no justifying it and it must me confessed and repented of, or the person is in danger of: shall not inherit the kingdom of GodBut we do have an advocate with the Father and if one should sin, and confesses their sin, he is faithful and just to forgive cleanse from all unrighteousness.
That's not what it says. Matter o fact try this one on for size:1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. "Were" signifies past tense.Again back to the original verse..Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; Masturbation practiced is fornication, uncleanness, and lust/covetousness. There is no justifying it and it must me confessed and repented of, or the person is in danger of: shall not inherit the kingdom of GodBut we do have an advocate with the Father and if one should sin, and confesses their sin, he is faithful and just to forgive cleanse from all unrighteousness.
ToddI am against masterbation I too believe lusting is a sin. My question to you is how do you expect to get to heaven? We are all sinners! Your a sinner. I am sure you lust from time to time. King David pushed the charts and God still had a special love for him. Yes God had to deal with him a few times. King David is going to heaven. None of us are going to be sinless when Jesus comes. Only when He changes us and destroys sin. I worry that your on a fine line of preaching legalism here, and for new Christians i am concerned. We all are going to fall from time to time, but we have Jesus as our advocate. What your preaching gives no one any hope. We might as well give up now.
(toddsumrall.com;32363)
That's not what it says. Matter o fact try this one on for size:1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. "Were" signifies past tense.Again back to the original verse..Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; Masturbation practiced is fornication, uncleanness, and lust/covetousness. There is no justifying it and it must me confessed and repented of, or the person is in danger of: shall not inherit the kingdom of GodBut we do have an advocate with the Father and if one should sin, and confesses their sin, he is faithful and just to forgive cleanse from all unrighteousness.
I never said masturbation wasn't sin... if it is, it is. I have no problem with that... but to believe that a man who has accepted Christ into his heart is still going to go to hell because he sins is utterly ludicrous.The blood of Christ cleanses us from our past transgressions and sins, and makes us a born again in Christ, saving our souls from eternal hell and giving us eternal life with our Lord God.
That's not what it says. Matter o fact try this one on for size:1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. "Were" signifies past tense.Again back to the original verse..Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; Masturbation practiced is fornication, uncleanness, and lust/covetousness. There is no justifying it and it must me confessed and repented of, or the person is in danger of: shall not inherit the kingdom of GodBut we do have an advocate with the Father and if one should sin, and confesses their sin, he is faithful and just to forgive cleanse from all unrighteousness.
I never said masturbation wasn't sin... if it is, it is. I have no problem with that... but to believe that a man who has accepted Christ into his heart is still going to go to hell because he sins is utterly ludicrous.The blood of Christ cleanses us from our past transgressions and sins, and makes us a born again in Christ, saving our souls from eternal hell and giving us eternal life with our Lord God.
I don't think thats what Todds saying Supercal Thew key word here is repentfor there are many people who live on this earth and claim to be christian, but they live there whole lives in sin and never turn back. They live in darkness and claim that they are in light. all christianity is for them is a religon. But there are other christians who repent from thier ways, they don't just seek forgivness, they change themselves and try to be the person who God wants him to be. They struggle to get out of the darkness hoping one day they can tear out of it and live in the light. Christianity is not there religon. Christianity is there reality.Masturbation is probably one of the hardest sins to overcome, They say that 99% of men who are able do it.don't you want to be in christ and live in that 1%your brother in christRyan Fitz
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I don't think thats what Todds saying Supercal Thew key word here is repentfor there are many people who live on this earth and claim to be christian, but they live there whole lives in sin and never turn back. They live in darkness and claim that they are in light. all christianity is for them is a religon. But there are other christians who repent from thier ways, they don't just seek forgivness, they change themselves and try to be the person who God wants him to be. They struggle to get out of the darkness hoping one day they can tear out of it and live in the light. Christianity is not there religon. Christianity is there reality.Masturbation is probably one of the hardest sins to overcome, They say that 99% of men who are able do it.don't you want to be in christ and live in that 1%your brother in christRyan Fitz
I'm not saying to not repent... but just from the way he's saying it, he made it sound like I had to live a perfect life, and no one can live a perfect life.believe me when I say this: Christianity is my reality. I live and breathe with the help of Jesus Christ... but I also know that I am a human. I cannot live a life of perfection. God knows this, and He loves me and all of us regardless.Now does that mean I will masturbate? probably... it's something I struggle with myself... I'm currently trying to change my life to a life that Christ would live. In the end, I will never achieve that "perfection" until I see Him in person, but He helps me along the way every day, and that's all I can do is try to live like He wants me to live.
I don't think thats what Todds saying Supercal Thew key word here is repentfor there are many people who live on this earth and claim to be christian, but they live there whole lives in sin and never turn back. They live in darkness and claim that they are in light. all christianity is for them is a religon. But there are other christians who repent from thier ways, they don't just seek forgivness, they change themselves and try to be the person who God wants him to be. They struggle to get out of the darkness hoping one day they can tear out of it and live in the light. Christianity is not there religon. Christianity is there reality.Masturbation is probably one of the hardest sins to overcome, They say that 99% of men who are able do it.don't you want to be in christ and live in that 1%your brother in christRyan Fitz
I'm not saying to not repent... but just from the way he's saying it, he made it sound like I had to live a perfect life, and no one can live a perfect life.believe me when I say this: Christianity is my reality. I live and breathe with the help of Jesus Christ... but I also know that I am a human. I cannot live a life of perfection. God knows this, and He loves me and all of us regardless.Now does that mean I will masturbate? probably... it's something I struggle with myself... I'm currently trying to change my life to a life that Christ would live. In the end, I will never achieve that "perfection" until I see Him in person, but He helps me along the way every day, and that's all I can do is try to live like He wants me to live.
(Super Kal;32407)
I'm not saying to not repent... but just from the way he's saying it, he made it sound like I had to live a perfect life, and no one can live a perfect life.believe me when I say this: Christianity is my reality. I live and breathe with the help of Jesus Christ... but I also know that I am a human. I cannot live a life of perfection. God knows this, and He loves me and all of us regardless.Now does that mean I will masturbate? probably... it's something I struggle with myself... I'm currently trying to change my life to a life that Christ would live. In the end, I will never achieve that "perfection" until I see Him in person, but He helps me along the way every day, and that's all I can do is try to live like He wants me to live.
Truer words have never been spoken Kal.But Jesus says we have to strive for that perfection.So Kal let us strive for it.Lets whole heartedly fight not only agaisnt masturbation, but every single sin that comes our way.and when it is our time to go, lets not be in the state where we fear judgement, but approach it with a smile and say " I did my best God, I did my best. Your grace was sufficient for me."
I'm not saying to not repent... but just from the way he's saying it, he made it sound like I had to live a perfect life, and no one can live a perfect life.believe me when I say this: Christianity is my reality. I live and breathe with the help of Jesus Christ... but I also know that I am a human. I cannot live a life of perfection. God knows this, and He loves me and all of us regardless.Now does that mean I will masturbate? probably... it's something I struggle with myself... I'm currently trying to change my life to a life that Christ would live. In the end, I will never achieve that "perfection" until I see Him in person, but He helps me along the way every day, and that's all I can do is try to live like He wants me to live.
Truer words have never been spoken Kal.But Jesus says we have to strive for that perfection.So Kal let us strive for it.Lets whole heartedly fight not only agaisnt masturbation, but every single sin that comes our way.and when it is our time to go, lets not be in the state where we fear judgement, but approach it with a smile and say " I did my best God, I did my best. Your grace was sufficient for me."
(Super Kal;32407)
I'm not saying to not repent... but just from the way he's saying it, he made it sound like I had to live a perfect life, and no one can live a perfect life.believe me when I say this: Christianity is my reality. I live and breathe with the help of Jesus Christ... but I also know that I am a human. I cannot live a life of perfection. God knows this, and He loves me and all of us regardless.Now does that mean I will masturbate? probably... it's something I struggle with myself... I'm currently trying to change my life to a life that Christ would live. In the end, I will never achieve that "perfection" until I see Him in person, but He helps me along the way every day, and that's all I can do is try to live like He wants me to live.
I wasn't saying anything. Just quoting scripture. You think Paul and Jesus masterbated. I think not. The key is to ask forgiveness and tap into God's power to overcome. that is what the cross provides for us.
I'm not saying to not repent... but just from the way he's saying it, he made it sound like I had to live a perfect life, and no one can live a perfect life.believe me when I say this: Christianity is my reality. I live and breathe with the help of Jesus Christ... but I also know that I am a human. I cannot live a life of perfection. God knows this, and He loves me and all of us regardless.Now does that mean I will masturbate? probably... it's something I struggle with myself... I'm currently trying to change my life to a life that Christ would live. In the end, I will never achieve that "perfection" until I see Him in person, but He helps me along the way every day, and that's all I can do is try to live like He wants me to live.
I wasn't saying anything. Just quoting scripture. You think Paul and Jesus masterbated. I think not. The key is to ask forgiveness and tap into God's power to overcome. that is what the cross provides for us.
I'm not disagreeing with you, todd...Now I agree with you that Jesus never did masturbate, but to assume that Paul never did is just kidding ourselves... he was a human, just like the rest of us, and like every other human, he gave into temptation.But like every other human, he repented, and continuously tried to live his life according to God's Word.
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