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(Dukester;32624)
Well,really many people think the world will end in 2012,but nobody knows for sure,there are clues in the bible when the devil will come,and try,but no for sure date!!!We will never really know what is going to happen,what we need to do instead of focusing when the world will end,is focus on following the Lord as closely as we can,so when the day comes,we will be saved through Jesus Christ,and have no worries!!!
Hi Dukester,You're right, it is important to be following the Lord but Christians do have "worries." We must realize who Satan is coming to earth for:Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.In other words....he is coming after us, Christians. All others are already his. So...we must be prepared, we must know that he is coming first pretending to be Christ and we must wait for the true Christ. We can't fall for his deceit which would be taking the mark of the beast.........Whirlwind
Well,really many people think the world will end in 2012,but nobody knows for sure,there are clues in the bible when the devil will come,and try,but no for sure date!!!We will never really know what is going to happen,what we need to do instead of focusing when the world will end,is focus on following the Lord as closely as we can,so when the day comes,we will be saved through Jesus Christ,and have no worries!!!
Hi Dukester,You're right, it is important to be following the Lord but Christians do have "worries." We must realize who Satan is coming to earth for:Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.In other words....he is coming after us, Christians. All others are already his. So...we must be prepared, we must know that he is coming first pretending to be Christ and we must wait for the true Christ. We can't fall for his deceit which would be taking the mark of the beast.........Whirlwind
I do not understand or make the distinction of there being a difference between my saying we should be ready always to account to God for our lives and saying we need to be worried about when the "end' of the world or age is coming. It is not either or for me. Just because I say we should not be overly anxious about whether or not this or that is a sign the end is near, does not mean I think we should not concern ourselves with meeting our Maker. If He wants me to be here when the "end" happens, then I will be here. But I better be ready right now to account for my life in case my end is here now.
The problem is you have stated that you do not need to know what will happen that is where we are disagreeing yes of course we should not worry and be overly concernedand we should always be ready that is fine But one can not truly be ready if they are not aware of the events God told you will happen. no where are we told not to know and study these things thats why he told us So we could be prepared To not study/learn all the Word of God is a mistakeremember the 10 virgins five ran out of oil because they were not as prepared as they thought
Well it is about attitude and how one lives each moment. And am not sure every instance in scripture being spoken of here applies as much to being ready for the END as it does to my being ready for my end.If my heart is right with God and my focus is to keep it that way, then it does not matter what happens tomorrow or six months or 2010 or 100 years from now. And what good would even perfect knowledge of future events do me if I die tonight and my soul is lost for eternity? I realize many here probably do not hold to that possibility, but to see my point you have to realize Catholics do. And if my heart is right and very bad things do start happening, I don't need to know exactly what will happen next in order to be able to discern what I should do. If people are worried about being deceived, it will be having a right heart that will either prevent that or turn them around and not having special knowledge of future events. What if your wrong and it is used against you? Were is your faith then?
(DrBubbaLove;33260)
? I realize many here probably do not hold to that possibility, but to see my point you have to realize Catholics do. And if my heart is right and very bad things do start happening, I don't need to know exactly what will happen next in order to be able to discern what I should do. If people are worried about being deceived, it will be having a right heart that will either prevent that or turn them around and not having special knowledge of future events. What if your wrong and it is used against you? Were is your faith then?
The hearts of many are "right." They love God but....they are being misled. Love alone will not be enough for anyone who is living when the last days are here. You MUST know that the fake comes first. God tells us this! :shepard:So...it is important to know what will happen, how it will happen and who the first "christ" is. If you follow him, even if you believe he is our Saviour....then you will take the mark of the beast. :naughty:There is no "special knowledge of future events" other then what God has laid out in His letter to us. He tells us the fake comes first. He tells us that so we remain a "virgin bride" and don't fall into idolatry by following the fake and He tells us to learn this truth so we can warn others. .......Whirlwind
? I realize many here probably do not hold to that possibility, but to see my point you have to realize Catholics do. And if my heart is right and very bad things do start happening, I don't need to know exactly what will happen next in order to be able to discern what I should do. If people are worried about being deceived, it will be having a right heart that will either prevent that or turn them around and not having special knowledge of future events. What if your wrong and it is used against you? Were is your faith then?
The hearts of many are "right." They love God but....they are being misled. Love alone will not be enough for anyone who is living when the last days are here. You MUST know that the fake comes first. God tells us this! :shepard:So...it is important to know what will happen, how it will happen and who the first "christ" is. If you follow him, even if you believe he is our Saviour....then you will take the mark of the beast. :naughty:There is no "special knowledge of future events" other then what God has laid out in His letter to us. He tells us the fake comes first. He tells us that so we remain a "virgin bride" and don't fall into idolatry by following the fake and He tells us to learn this truth so we can warn others. .......Whirlwind
No longer playing Church anymore. If my heart is right with God, then my trust is in Him, He will not fail me and I would not be deceived. "Knowing" the "signs" has nothing to do with that.As far as "knowing", it has been my experience that no one really knows and are mistaken about what they think they know. Every decade of my life people have said He is coming at least once if not more on some specific date, or season or year. And they were VERY certain and VERY sincere in that belief. From what I have read about Christians over the last 500 years, my experience is not unique.Nothing evident here suggests anything new to me. There is not agreement here on what everyone "knows", so who to believe? And why would God let some "know" and others "know" something else or still others nothing at all?
(kriss;32286)
Revelation 13:3 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.There are two beast in Rev. the first is the One World system it receives the woundthe second is Satan(antichrist) he looks like a lamb(chist) but he speaks as a dragon (satan's lies) Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. One of the ten countries in the leadership of the beast "were wounded unto death". How does a office, or government of a country die? Of course in that the political system falls apart. That government then comes back to life. Why? Because Antichrist (Satan) the beast heals the deadly wound this is why the whole world will wonder after him.Imagine a scenerio where one of the major world government falls for some reasonthe world slips into chaos with riots,killings ect. Then we see one come on the scene with all the answers heals the wound and sets up a sucessful One World Orderthis is the beast, Satan, Antichrist he comes in peacfully and properosly
I don't see how the anti-christ bringing back a country that had fallen apart,back to life so incredible, because this has happened many times in history. What would be so special about this one?
Revelation 13:3 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.There are two beast in Rev. the first is the One World system it receives the woundthe second is Satan(antichrist) he looks like a lamb(chist) but he speaks as a dragon (satan's lies) Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. One of the ten countries in the leadership of the beast "were wounded unto death". How does a office, or government of a country die? Of course in that the political system falls apart. That government then comes back to life. Why? Because Antichrist (Satan) the beast heals the deadly wound this is why the whole world will wonder after him.Imagine a scenerio where one of the major world government falls for some reasonthe world slips into chaos with riots,killings ect. Then we see one come on the scene with all the answers heals the wound and sets up a sucessful One World Orderthis is the beast, Satan, Antichrist he comes in peacfully and properosly
I don't see how the anti-christ bringing back a country that had fallen apart,back to life so incredible, because this has happened many times in history. What would be so special about this one?
Because when this country is wouned,for argument sake, lets say its the U.S. it puts the whole World into chaos this has never been possable until todays beastly one world system never before in history has the falling of one country been able to effect the Whole worldIf you watch the stock markets you Would see this plainly if the U.S. economy falls every country in the World will be adverserly affected. This is a deadly wound to the New World Order triggered by the fall of a nationThis has never been possable any other time in History
(kriss;34024)
Because when this country is wouned,for argument sake, lets say its the U.S. it puts the whole World into chaos this has never been possable until todays beastly one world system never before in history has the falling of one country been able to effect the Whole worldIf you watch the stock markets you Would see this plainly if the U.S. economy falls every country in the World will be adverserly affected. This is a deadly wound to the New World Order triggered by the fall of a nationThis has never been possable any other time in History
How would the fall of the U.S. be different then was the fall of Rome during that time period when Rome ruled the world (as they knew it at that time) and then later when Alexander the Great wept because he had no more nations to conquer.It seems the world recovered from the fall of those two great nations.
Because when this country is wouned,for argument sake, lets say its the U.S. it puts the whole World into chaos this has never been possable until todays beastly one world system never before in history has the falling of one country been able to effect the Whole worldIf you watch the stock markets you Would see this plainly if the U.S. economy falls every country in the World will be adverserly affected. This is a deadly wound to the New World Order triggered by the fall of a nationThis has never been possable any other time in History
How would the fall of the U.S. be different then was the fall of Rome during that time period when Rome ruled the world (as they knew it at that time) and then later when Alexander the Great wept because he had no more nations to conquer.It seems the world recovered from the fall of those two great nations.
Yes but China and India and the whole world didnt go down in a spiral fall because of the fall of Rome yes it was a type but there has never been a One World SystemNever have our economys ever been so entwined when our stock market falls so does China's Europe, Japan,India We have never had a One World system before
(DrBubbaLove;33304)
No longer playing Church anymore. If my heart is right with God, then my trust is in Him, He will not fail me and I would not be deceived. "Knowing" the "signs" has nothing to do with that.As far as "knowing", it has been my experience that no one really knows and are mistaken about what they think they know. Every decade of my life people have said He is coming at least once if not more on some specific date, or season or year. And they were VERY certain and VERY sincere in that belief. From what I have read about Christians over the last 500 years, my experience is not unique.Nothing evident here suggests anything new to me. There is not agreement here on what everyone "knows", so who to believe? And why would God let some "know" and others "know" something else or still others nothing at all?
I lean towards your way of thinking Bubba, When we say "we know" on any given subject we may or may not decieve ourselves. Case in point, If I were to tell you my name is Ray and I was born in Grand Rapids, MI. That may be true , and I BELIEVE it is but I don't know that it is . I may well have been adopted by two loving parents in Michigan and never been told my birth name or the State I was born in, I realize that is pretty far out , but at the same time I hear of such things happening on T.V. talk shows quite often, haven't you?Such being the case I believe the bible is the word of God because to me it has proven it's self by the hundreds of prophesies about Jesus and other happenings that have proved true over the years. So my salvation and faith in God (which is a gift) is something that I choose to believe not something I KNOW. I wish it was, but in all honesty I can't say it is, maybe one day but not at present.The bible says "Now we see through a glass darkly" (1 Cor. 13:12) and that we only KNOW in part, I guess that's where I stand now. As far as God informing some and not others I would assume that being who He is He has the privilege of picking and choosing according to His pleasure. As in the case of Daniel, Jeremiah, and a number of others....God Bless...Ray
No longer playing Church anymore. If my heart is right with God, then my trust is in Him, He will not fail me and I would not be deceived. "Knowing" the "signs" has nothing to do with that.As far as "knowing", it has been my experience that no one really knows and are mistaken about what they think they know. Every decade of my life people have said He is coming at least once if not more on some specific date, or season or year. And they were VERY certain and VERY sincere in that belief. From what I have read about Christians over the last 500 years, my experience is not unique.Nothing evident here suggests anything new to me. There is not agreement here on what everyone "knows", so who to believe? And why would God let some "know" and others "know" something else or still others nothing at all?
I lean towards your way of thinking Bubba, When we say "we know" on any given subject we may or may not decieve ourselves. Case in point, If I were to tell you my name is Ray and I was born in Grand Rapids, MI. That may be true , and I BELIEVE it is but I don't know that it is . I may well have been adopted by two loving parents in Michigan and never been told my birth name or the State I was born in, I realize that is pretty far out , but at the same time I hear of such things happening on T.V. talk shows quite often, haven't you?Such being the case I believe the bible is the word of God because to me it has proven it's self by the hundreds of prophesies about Jesus and other happenings that have proved true over the years. So my salvation and faith in God (which is a gift) is something that I choose to believe not something I KNOW. I wish it was, but in all honesty I can't say it is, maybe one day but not at present.The bible says "Now we see through a glass darkly" (1 Cor. 13:12) and that we only KNOW in part, I guess that's where I stand now. As far as God informing some and not others I would assume that being who He is He has the privilege of picking and choosing according to His pleasure. As in the case of Daniel, Jeremiah, and a number of others....God Bless...Ray
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