There is no assurance of eternal life in Islam, because the Quran never promises it... to my understanding. Muslims blindly follow the pillars of their religion without the assurance of everlasting life.There is assurance of eternal life in Christianity, which is only through Jesus. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(Thunder1;32170)
There is no assurance of eternal life in Islam, because the Quran never promises it... to my understanding. Muslims blindly follow the pillars of their religion without the assurance of everlasting life.There is assurance of eternal life in Christianity, which is only through Jesus. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Are you sure want to talk about this ? Or you are just want to playing around with it
?Wallaahu a'lam.
There is no assurance of eternal life in Islam, because the Quran never promises it... to my understanding. Muslims blindly follow the pillars of their religion without the assurance of everlasting life.There is assurance of eternal life in Christianity, which is only through Jesus. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Are you sure want to talk about this ? Or you are just want to playing around with it
?Wallaahu a'lam.In Islam, according the Quran there are these scales of justice on the Day of Judgement that determine whether individuals have EARNED places in heaven or not: "Then those whose good deeds are heavy, those are the successful. And those whose good deeds are light, those are they who have lost their souls, abiding in hell." (Surah 23:102,103)In Christianity, according the Bible, God already has saved us, those, who receive Jesus in Faith , Jesus is God's gift to us. Jonh 3:16. It was nothing to do about peoples' deeds.Christians then try to do their best (not everyone is doing this though), but even their good deeds don't earn salvation.Good deeds are continuation to WHAT GOD DID for them at first. Christians want to do good deeds,because God showed His love, grace through Jesus to them first, while people still were separated from Him. Christianity does not need the scales, showing if you go to heaven or hell. When you love somebody,you want to do them good. So it is with God in Christianity. If you LOVE your God you want to do,what He ask you to do, but you don't do it under the law anymore. You do it because of LOVE relationship with Him.
A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimGood deeds on the believers.Quran (40:40) "He that works evil will not be requited but by the like thereof: and he that works a righteous deed - whether man or woman - and is a Believer- such will enter the Garden (of Bliss): Therein will they have abundance without measure.The result.Quran (23:102) Then those whose balance (of good deeds) is heavy,- they will attain salvation:So if someone did a good deeds, and they have faith on God (Believing in God and His Messenger), then their good deeds will be worthed. If someone who has done good deeds but not believing in Him and His Messenger. That good deeds are nothing on God eyes.Good deeds on unbelievers.Quran(24:39) But the Unbelievers,- their deeds are like a mirage in sandy deserts, which the man parched with thirst mistakes for water; until when he comes up to it, he finds it to be nothing: But he finds Allah (ever) with him, and Allah will pay him his account: and Allah is swift in taking account. The result.Quran (23:103) But those whose balance is light, will be those who have lost their souls, in Hell will they abide.And if you have want to know what good deeds that Islam is talking about, we may have the common thing like this verse talking to :III John 1:11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God. Thunder1, may I ask you a question, if some has knows about the good deeds but then he didn't do it. Is it sin ?Wallaahu a'lam.
Salvation is a foreign concept in Islam. There is no atonement for ones sins. Islam completely rejects the idea that sins can be forgiven by somebody else sacrifice. In Islam, Muslims become seekers of salvation through martyrdom. They are taught that at the first drop of their blood in martyrdom guarantees their passage to paradise. Then once there they can intercede for 70 members of their family. (martyrdom read as killing themselves and as many others as they can at the same time)Bottom line is, Islam offers no Muslim any assurance of going to paradise outside of martyrdom, in truth outside of murder. Islam like it's Father a murderer from the beginning Satan. Muslims are bound and decieved and blind to Islam/Satan.FREE eBOOK AntiChrist Islam's Awaited MessiahSo free we don't even want your email addressScroll down to free stuff to downloadhttp://ToddSumrall.com
Peace be upon youThe concept of intercession is not alien to Islam. We also have the belief of love for the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be Upon Him) and His pure Progeny and we believe that this love will ensure our salvation. However in Islam, the idea that merely claiming to love someone, while doing exactly opposite to what He expects from you, is a false claim. Thus He who makes such a claim needs to realize that true love blossoms from the heart, nurtures via tongue and gains acknowledgment of the beloved through one's actions. Furthermore, one of the important principles in Islam is justice. The principle of justice means that since God is perfect, He is also Just and treats everyone in His kingdom fairly and with equality. Thus, it will be unfair to those, who discipline their lives in this world for the love of their God, if God simply blesses the ill doers with the same rewards. From Islamic perspective, this idea promotes confusion and encourages corruption in society since every person can simply claim to love Jeasus (Peace be upon Him) while ignoring His teachings and following the route of satan. Be blessed.
A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim
I answer:Salvation in Islam is based on the scales of heavier good deeds, while of course believing in Allah and His Messenger. I understand you Ricky.
Salvation as per Islamic thought so far as I concern was because of Allah(God) Will and Grace, event our best good deeds cannot compare with what He has given to us.
Thunder1:I understand that from Quran. In Christianity it's same but different and you know why. You can be a really good person, but non-believer, which in Christianity means you don't believe that Jesus died for your sins. Non-believer with good deeds...well you know it. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave his one and only Son that WHOEVER believes in Him shall not PERISH but have ETERNAL LIFE.
So far as I concern there isn't any statement of Jesus(pbuh) that said if believing that he(pbuh) die on cross then you have eternal life. But it's only said believing in him(pbuh), not about his(pbuh) death on cross or tree perhaps ?("Thunder1")
I believe in that. But previously we mentioned unbelievers- even they can do good. If they don't accept Jesus as they Saviour, good deeds are just good deeds,but they don't take people to heaven. And we have our differences, who we believe in.
Yes, we are has the different meaning regarding who is believers and who is unbelievers, but I believe you do know of course that Islam has honor Jesus(pbuh) and his mother(pbuh), not like the most of jews. And we are just following what God commanded as he(pbuh) has said also that he is not God, as matter a fact he also has God which is the same God that jews has worship, that is the One God of the universe not trinity.
Ricky:Thunder1, may I ask you a question, if some has knows about the good deeds but then he didn't do it. Is it sin ?Thunder1 :Yes, Ricky, you may ask a question.Thunder1 answer :It is a sin. It is a sin already not to believe in Jesus Christ as a Saviour, because in Christianity you can't have relationship with The Holy God without believing that a person is a sinner and needs jesus as his/ her Saviour.
How is it become sin (*considered it was the christian) ?Wallaahu a'lam.
I answer:Salvation in Islam is based on the scales of heavier good deeds, while of course believing in Allah and His Messenger. I understand you Ricky.
Salvation as per Islamic thought so far as I concern was because of Allah(God) Will and Grace, event our best good deeds cannot compare with what He has given to us.
Thunder1:I understand that from Quran. In Christianity it's same but different and you know why. You can be a really good person, but non-believer, which in Christianity means you don't believe that Jesus died for your sins. Non-believer with good deeds...well you know it. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave his one and only Son that WHOEVER believes in Him shall not PERISH but have ETERNAL LIFE.
So far as I concern there isn't any statement of Jesus(pbuh) that said if believing that he(pbuh) die on cross then you have eternal life. But it's only said believing in him(pbuh), not about his(pbuh) death on cross or tree perhaps ?("Thunder1")
I believe in that. But previously we mentioned unbelievers- even they can do good. If they don't accept Jesus as they Saviour, good deeds are just good deeds,but they don't take people to heaven. And we have our differences, who we believe in.
Yes, we are has the different meaning regarding who is believers and who is unbelievers, but I believe you do know of course that Islam has honor Jesus(pbuh) and his mother(pbuh), not like the most of jews. And we are just following what God commanded as he(pbuh) has said also that he is not God, as matter a fact he also has God which is the same God that jews has worship, that is the One God of the universe not trinity.
Ricky:Thunder1, may I ask you a question, if some has knows about the good deeds but then he didn't do it. Is it sin ?Thunder1 :Yes, Ricky, you may ask a question.Thunder1 answer :It is a sin. It is a sin already not to believe in Jesus Christ as a Saviour, because in Christianity you can't have relationship with The Holy God without believing that a person is a sinner and needs jesus as his/ her Saviour.
How is it become sin (*considered it was the christian) ?Wallaahu a'lam.
Simple,Peace be upon youSimple:The concept of intercession is not alien to Islam. We also have the belief of love for the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be Upon Him) and His pure Progeny and we believe that this love will ensure our salvation.Thunder1:... "that this love will ensure your salvation ?? " In Christianity we don't believe in only on prophet, who was only a man and is dead - for our salvation.To believe that Jesus the Son of God died for your sins is the only way to God and to Heaven.Simple: However in Islam, the idea that merely claiming to love someone, while doing exactly opposite to what He expects from you, is a false claim. Thus He who makes such a claim needs to realize that true love blossoms from the heart, nurtures via tongue and gains acknowledgment of the beloved through one's actions. Thunder1:In Christianity good works/deeds follow naturally If you really have received Jesus Christ as your Saviour. Sad but true, not every Christian even tries to do good. Then I would say they've not really taken Jesus, God's sacrifice seriously or they don't have enough understanding about God's grace. Our works are never so perfect to God anyway, does not matter how much we try, God is so holy and He does not accept ANY sin that's why we need JesusSimple:Furthermore, one of the important principles in Islam is justice. The principle of justice means that since God is perfect, He is also Just and treats everyone in His kingdom fairly and with equality. Thus, it will be unfair to those, who discipline their lives in this world for the love of their God, if God simply blesses the ill doers with the same rewards. Thunder1:... "In His Kingdom" , I assume it's means in Islam's kingdom, because we don't serve the same God in Christianity. Our God is also just, but also merciful. If wrong does repent and turn away from their sinful ways and accept Jesus as their Saviour, God forgives them. Simple:From Islamic perspective, this idea promotes confusion and encourages corruption in society since every person can simply claim to love Jeasus (Peace be upon Him) while ignoring His teachings and following the route of satan. Be blessed.Thunder1:I agree with you Simple and there are many people like that. But as I said earlier our God is just. He is also all knowing and all hearing. And those people need to answer to God.Added to that, you only refer to Jesus. I've met some muslims, who claim to be muslims, they swear, they drink alcohol and use drugs. Could you say what happens to them and aren't they following the route of satan?God Bless !Thunder1
Ricky W;A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimRicky:Salvation as per Islamic thought so far as I concern was because of Allah(God) Will and Grace, event our best good deeds cannot compare with what He has given to us.Thunder: Why do they have then the scales relating to their salavation - meaning muslims try to earn their way to heaven with their deeds. That's a lot of work and there is no assurance that muslim will go to heaven, except through the martyrdom.Ricky:So far as I concern there isn't any statement of Jesus(pbuh) that said if believing that he(pbuh) die on cross then you have eternal life. But it's only said believing in him(pbuh), not about his(pbuh) death on cross or tree perhaps ? Thunder1:Col. 1:19 " For God was pleased to have ALL HIS FULLNESS dwell in Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through His Blood, shed on the cross. Ricky:Yes, we are has the different meaning regarding who is believers and who is unbelievers, but I believe you do know of course that Islam has honor Jesus(pbuh) and his mother(pbuh), not like the most of jews. And we are just following what God commanded as he(pbuh) has said also that he is not God, as matter a fact he also has God which is the same God that jews has worship, that is the One God of the universe not trinity.Thunder1:I know Islam honours Jesus, BUT only as a prophet NOT as the Son of God and Saviour of all humankind. That's a huge difference. And I also disagree that God in Islam and in Judaism is same. Ricky: How is it become sin (*considered it was the christian) ?Wallaahu a'lam.Thunder1:If a Christian does wrong, that person sins, BUT if that person repents from his heart, God forgives.God Bless !Thunder1
Satan has capitalized on the need of humans to want to go to heaven. He even grabbed at the blood atonement in Islam by distorting and perverting the blood sacrifice of Yeshua and says instead a Muslim can kill themselves and murder others while killing themselves and at the first drop of the martyrs blood, their sins are forgiven and they will enter paradise and be able to intercede for 70 family members so they can go to paradise. Muslim hear me; It is not your blood that will forgive your sins. It is not your martyred relative praying for you that will get you to paradise.It is the blood of Yeshua, and ONLY his blood that will give you audience with YHWH and forgive your sins. Trust in that blood and you will be forgiven and allowed in.Free eBook AntiChrist Islam's Awaited Messiahhttp://ToddSumrall.com
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Satan has capitalized on the need of humans to want to go to heaven. He even grabbed at the blood atonement in Islam by distorting and perverting the blood sacrifice of Yeshua and says instead a Muslim can kill themselves and murder others while killing themselves and at the first drop of the martyrs blood, their sins are forgiven and they will enter paradise and be able to intercede for 70 family members so they can go to paradise.
Muslim hear me; It is not your blood that will forgive your sins. It is not your martyred relative praying for you that will get you to paradise.
Who's said that our blood that will forgive our sins, who said that martyred were the one that make us entered paradise ? It's only your thought i supposed. Those deeds was nothing in God eyes if they were do it that not because of God. It's all about doeth God Words. And it's not the blood of us that God forgive our sin, because hearing of what God said is all about.Quran 5:27 Recite to them the truth of the story of the two sons of Adam. Behold! they each presented a sacrifice (to Allah): It was accepted from one, but not from the other. Said the latter: "Be sure I will slay thee." "Surely," said the former, "Allah doth accept of the sacrifice of those who are righteous."Quran 22:34 To every people did We appoint rites (of sacrifice), that they might celebrate the name of Allah over the sustenance He gave them from animals (fit for food). But your god is One God: submit then your wills to Him (in Islam): and give thou the good news to those who humble themselves,- I Samuel 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.
It is the blood of Yeshua, and ONLY his blood that will give you audience with YHWH and forgive your sins. Trust in that blood and you will be forgiven and allowed in.
I suppose not, but obeying voice of Huwa Allaah is the think should be do.Wallahu a'lam.
Satan has capitalized on the need of humans to want to go to heaven. He even grabbed at the blood atonement in Islam by distorting and perverting the blood sacrifice of Yeshua and says instead a Muslim can kill themselves and murder others while killing themselves and at the first drop of the martyrs blood, their sins are forgiven and they will enter paradise and be able to intercede for 70 family members so they can go to paradise.
Muslim hear me; It is not your blood that will forgive your sins. It is not your martyred relative praying for you that will get you to paradise.
Who's said that our blood that will forgive our sins, who said that martyred were the one that make us entered paradise ? It's only your thought i supposed. Those deeds was nothing in God eyes if they were do it that not because of God. It's all about doeth God Words. And it's not the blood of us that God forgive our sin, because hearing of what God said is all about.Quran 5:27 Recite to them the truth of the story of the two sons of Adam. Behold! they each presented a sacrifice (to Allah): It was accepted from one, but not from the other. Said the latter: "Be sure I will slay thee." "Surely," said the former, "Allah doth accept of the sacrifice of those who are righteous."Quran 22:34 To every people did We appoint rites (of sacrifice), that they might celebrate the name of Allah over the sustenance He gave them from animals (fit for food). But your god is One God: submit then your wills to Him (in Islam): and give thou the good news to those who humble themselves,- I Samuel 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.
It is the blood of Yeshua, and ONLY his blood that will give you audience with YHWH and forgive your sins. Trust in that blood and you will be forgiven and allowed in.
I suppose not, but obeying voice of Huwa Allaah is the think should be do.Wallahu a'lam.
Dear Thunder1Peace be upon You.Thank you for your insight. You have brought some interesting points in the discussion(Thunder1;32249)
Thunder1:Added to that, you only refer to Jesus. I've met some muslims, who claim to be muslims, they swear, they drink alcohol and use drugs. Could you say what happens to them and aren't they following the route of satan?God Bless !
Well ofcourse, Muslims do not inherit the certificate of being saints. There are good and bad people in every community/society around the world. I do not believe that one particular group in this world can claim to receive salvation and I do not think that this is what Islam preaches ( I can back my claim with reliable sources of Islam). If such was the case, God's attribute of being Just is under question. There are people who are just born in Muslim families or in Christian families. They just inherit the so called faith but inheriting the faith doesn't guarantee one's salvation unless one strives to recognise it. I believe that someone claiming to be a Muslim is only a Muslim by tongue. On the contrary, I have seen, in my life, that there are Muslims by heart, all around the world. In appearance, they are non-Muslims, but to me, they are Muslims by heart. People - doesn't matter which background they come from - who sincerely intend to learn and then acknowledge the truth will eventually receive salvation. I quote a Quranic verse:Quran " ...and strive for Jihad in My way so that you may succeed "^ Please do not confuse the word Jihad with "suicide bombers" or the "warriors". In reality, it has a broader and better vision. Be blessed.
Thunder1:Added to that, you only refer to Jesus. I've met some muslims, who claim to be muslims, they swear, they drink alcohol and use drugs. Could you say what happens to them and aren't they following the route of satan?God Bless !
Well ofcourse, Muslims do not inherit the certificate of being saints. There are good and bad people in every community/society around the world. I do not believe that one particular group in this world can claim to receive salvation and I do not think that this is what Islam preaches ( I can back my claim with reliable sources of Islam). If such was the case, God's attribute of being Just is under question. There are people who are just born in Muslim families or in Christian families. They just inherit the so called faith but inheriting the faith doesn't guarantee one's salvation unless one strives to recognise it. I believe that someone claiming to be a Muslim is only a Muslim by tongue. On the contrary, I have seen, in my life, that there are Muslims by heart, all around the world. In appearance, they are non-Muslims, but to me, they are Muslims by heart. People - doesn't matter which background they come from - who sincerely intend to learn and then acknowledge the truth will eventually receive salvation. I quote a Quranic verse:Quran " ...and strive for Jihad in My way so that you may succeed "^ Please do not confuse the word Jihad with "suicide bombers" or the "warriors". In reality, it has a broader and better vision. Be blessed.
(Ricky W;32319)
A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimWho's said that our blood that will forgive our sins, who said that martyred were the one that make us entered paradise ?
Al-Ahram Al-Arabi (Egypt), October 28, 2001. (right before 9/11)Sheikh Abd Al-Salam Abu Shukheydem, Chief Mufti of the Palestinian Authority police force, mentioned 'the black-eyed' as one of the rewards of martyrs: "From the moment the first drop of his blood is spilled, he does not feel the pain of his wounds and he is forgiven for all his sins; he sees his seat in Paradise; he is saved from the torment of the grave; he is saved from the great horror of Judgement Day; he marries 'the black-eyed'; he vouches for 70 of his family members; he gains the crown of honor, the precious stone of which is better than this entire world and everything in it."Free eBook AntiChrist Islam's Awaited Messiahhttp://ToddSumrall.com*************Ibn al-Mubarak, Jihad, p. 30 (no. 6).There is a man who fights in the path of Allah and does not want to kill or be killed, but is struck by an arrow. The first drop of blood [dripping] from him is atonement for every sin he has committed; for every drop he sheds he gains levels in paradise. The second type of man is one who fights desiring to kill but not to be killed, and is struck by an arrow. The first drop of blood [dripping] from him is atonement for every sin; for every drop he sheds he gains a level in paradise until he bumps Abra-ham's knee [on the top level]. The third type of man is one who fights in the path of Allah desiring to kill and be killed, and is struck by an arrow. The first drop of blood [dripping] from him is atonement for every sin; he will come to the Day of Resurrection with a drawn sword, [able to] intercede.So you see that Islam has blood redemption in their beliefs and practices. However it is false redemption, and is no redemption at all, but rather death, hell and the grave for the Muslim who commits martyrdom, for Yeshua said "I am the way to the Father and NO man may come to him EXCEPT through me"
A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimWho's said that our blood that will forgive our sins, who said that martyred were the one that make us entered paradise ?
Al-Ahram Al-Arabi (Egypt), October 28, 2001. (right before 9/11)Sheikh Abd Al-Salam Abu Shukheydem, Chief Mufti of the Palestinian Authority police force, mentioned 'the black-eyed' as one of the rewards of martyrs: "From the moment the first drop of his blood is spilled, he does not feel the pain of his wounds and he is forgiven for all his sins; he sees his seat in Paradise; he is saved from the torment of the grave; he is saved from the great horror of Judgement Day; he marries 'the black-eyed'; he vouches for 70 of his family members; he gains the crown of honor, the precious stone of which is better than this entire world and everything in it."Free eBook AntiChrist Islam's Awaited Messiahhttp://ToddSumrall.com*************Ibn al-Mubarak, Jihad, p. 30 (no. 6).There is a man who fights in the path of Allah and does not want to kill or be killed, but is struck by an arrow. The first drop of blood [dripping] from him is atonement for every sin he has committed; for every drop he sheds he gains levels in paradise. The second type of man is one who fights desiring to kill but not to be killed, and is struck by an arrow. The first drop of blood [dripping] from him is atonement for every sin; for every drop he sheds he gains a level in paradise until he bumps Abra-ham's knee [on the top level]. The third type of man is one who fights in the path of Allah desiring to kill and be killed, and is struck by an arrow. The first drop of blood [dripping] from him is atonement for every sin; he will come to the Day of Resurrection with a drawn sword, [able to] intercede.So you see that Islam has blood redemption in their beliefs and practices. However it is false redemption, and is no redemption at all, but rather death, hell and the grave for the Muslim who commits martyrdom, for Yeshua said "I am the way to the Father and NO man may come to him EXCEPT through me"
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Al-Ahram Al-Arabi (Egypt), October 28, 2001. (right before 9/11)Sheikh Abd Al-Salam Abu Shukheydem, Chief Mufti of the Palestinian Authority police force, mentioned 'the black-eyed' as one of the rewards of martyrs: "From the moment the first drop of his blood is spilled, he does not feel the pain of his wounds and he is forgiven for all his sins; he sees his seat in Paradise; he is saved from the torment of the grave; he is saved from the great horror of Judgement Day; he marries 'the black-eyed'; he vouches for 70 of his family members; he gains the crown of honor, the precious stone of which is better than this entire world and everything in it."Free eBook AntiChrist Islam's Awaited Messiahhttp://ToddSumrall.com*************Ibn al-Mubarak, Jihad, p. 30 (no. 6).There is a man who fights in the path of Allah and does not want to kill or be killed, but is struck by an arrow. The first drop of blood [dripping] from him is atonement for every sin he has committed; for every drop he sheds he gains levels in paradise. The second type of man is one who fights desiring to kill but not to be killed, and is struck by an arrow. The first drop of blood [dripping] from him is atonement for every sin; for every drop he sheds he gains a level in paradise until he bumps Abra-ham's knee [on the top level]. The third type of man is one who fights in the path of Allah desiring to kill and be killed, and is struck by an arrow. The first drop of blood [dripping] from him is atonement for every sin; he will come to the Day of Resurrection with a drawn sword, [able to] intercede.So you see that Islam has blood redemption in their beliefs and practices. However it is false redemption, and is no redemption at all, but rather death, hell and the grave for the Muslim who commits martyrdom, for Yeshua said "I am the way to the Father and NO man may come to him EXCEPT through me"
As I said before, and my answer was still on what i've wrote, nothing change. Those people that has state I supposed was in the frame of what i'm talking about, because we moslem has understand about what God has said, it might they are not mentioned what is the base of what their saying. I can understand why those people says those word, but for you i supposed indeed not knowing it (wallaahu a'lam).It's not about the blood, that some one received salvation, but His Mercy and Grace. And the blood that has spilled will be a witness in the Day of Judgment what those people have done. If in their heart not cause of Allah, then it useless their blood, if it was cause of Allah (to obey His Word, seek for His Please) by the Will of God(Allah), they will deserve what to has their right. And how we get know what was in their heart ? Only God Knows All of Things, so God Mercy and Grace that will cause someone got His Salvation enter the paradise.Does the blood that cause someone received God Salvation, unfortunately i would like to say, it's depend on their purpose as I mention before. So don't get wrong, the point is like the verse of the Quran that i've shown you, and has coherence with Samuel.(*To my brother in faith, if i has wrong giving argument please hesitate to remind me).Wallaahu a'lam.
Al-Ahram Al-Arabi (Egypt), October 28, 2001. (right before 9/11)Sheikh Abd Al-Salam Abu Shukheydem, Chief Mufti of the Palestinian Authority police force, mentioned 'the black-eyed' as one of the rewards of martyrs: "From the moment the first drop of his blood is spilled, he does not feel the pain of his wounds and he is forgiven for all his sins; he sees his seat in Paradise; he is saved from the torment of the grave; he is saved from the great horror of Judgement Day; he marries 'the black-eyed'; he vouches for 70 of his family members; he gains the crown of honor, the precious stone of which is better than this entire world and everything in it."Free eBook AntiChrist Islam's Awaited Messiahhttp://ToddSumrall.com*************Ibn al-Mubarak, Jihad, p. 30 (no. 6).There is a man who fights in the path of Allah and does not want to kill or be killed, but is struck by an arrow. The first drop of blood [dripping] from him is atonement for every sin he has committed; for every drop he sheds he gains levels in paradise. The second type of man is one who fights desiring to kill but not to be killed, and is struck by an arrow. The first drop of blood [dripping] from him is atonement for every sin; for every drop he sheds he gains a level in paradise until he bumps Abra-ham's knee [on the top level]. The third type of man is one who fights in the path of Allah desiring to kill and be killed, and is struck by an arrow. The first drop of blood [dripping] from him is atonement for every sin; he will come to the Day of Resurrection with a drawn sword, [able to] intercede.So you see that Islam has blood redemption in their beliefs and practices. However it is false redemption, and is no redemption at all, but rather death, hell and the grave for the Muslim who commits martyrdom, for Yeshua said "I am the way to the Father and NO man may come to him EXCEPT through me"
As I said before, and my answer was still on what i've wrote, nothing change. Those people that has state I supposed was in the frame of what i'm talking about, because we moslem has understand about what God has said, it might they are not mentioned what is the base of what their saying. I can understand why those people says those word, but for you i supposed indeed not knowing it (wallaahu a'lam).It's not about the blood, that some one received salvation, but His Mercy and Grace. And the blood that has spilled will be a witness in the Day of Judgment what those people have done. If in their heart not cause of Allah, then it useless their blood, if it was cause of Allah (to obey His Word, seek for His Please) by the Will of God(Allah), they will deserve what to has their right. And how we get know what was in their heart ? Only God Knows All of Things, so God Mercy and Grace that will cause someone got His Salvation enter the paradise.Does the blood that cause someone received God Salvation, unfortunately i would like to say, it's depend on their purpose as I mention before. So don't get wrong, the point is like the verse of the Quran that i've shown you, and has coherence with Samuel.(*To my brother in faith, if i has wrong giving argument please hesitate to remind me).Wallaahu a'lam.
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