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Mighty Bear

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Moslems die for Allah, a Christian dies for his friends. I could be wrong,I know nothing about the Koran."Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends."John 15:13 ESV"As it is written, 'For your sake we are being killed all the day long;we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.'"Romans 8:36 ESV
 

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A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(Mighty Bear)
Moslems die for Allah, a Christian dies for his friends. I could be wrong,I know nothing about the Koran."Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends."John 15:13 ESV"As it is written, 'For your sake we are being killed all the day long;we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.'"Romans 8:36 ESV
Moslem willing to die for doeth God command (Law and Order). Moslem should prepare every thing that they have to commit their faith to God(Allah The Most High).All good deeds that wasn't because of God, will value nothing in God eyes, but if moslem do a good deeds cause of Allah and expecting of God Grace.Quran (9:59) Would that they were well pleased with what Allah and His Messenger have given them, and would say: 'Allah is sufficient for us. Allah will provide for us from His abundance, and so will His Messenger. To Allah, we hope.'So what is all about in Muslim live ? That is to keep always of what God has reveal/command unto us.(*that is my opinion)Wallaahu a'lam.
 

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Moslems die for Allah, a Christian dies for his friends. I could be wrong,I know nothing about the Koran.
Peace be upon YouThese are two different topics in Islam. Our rights in this world (and naturally, the rights of others) are divided into two categories:1) Rights of God2) Rights of CreationsThe importance of both of them has been mentioned in detail. One of the rights of God is to follow His teachings regarding rights of people. The rights of people are so high in Islam that the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him) is recorded to have said that God is Merciful and in many cases, He will forgive His rights, however if we deny the rights of fellow beings, God will never forgive us till we seek forgiveness from those people (or unless there is genuine reason stoping us from doing so).Regarding friends, I would like to quote Imam Ali who has said the following:" A friend does not become a true beloved friend until he fulfills your rights in your presence, behind your back and when you die "Another classic example of rights of people in Islam are that if we have enough food to enjoy our meal while on the contrary, our neighbour is starving , and we are well aware of that, then we will be questioned on the day of judgement for not looking after our neighbour.Be blessed.
 

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A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(Simple)
Peace be upon YouThese are two different topics in Islam. Our rights in this world (and naturally, the rights of others) are divided into two categories:1) Rights of God2) Rights of CreationsThe importance of both of them has been mentioned in detail. One of the rights of God is to follow His teachings regarding rights of people. The rights of people are so high in Islam that the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him) is recorded to have said that God is Merciful and in many cases, He will forgive His rights, however if we deny the rights of fellow beings, God will never forgive us till we seek forgiveness from those people (or unless there is genuine reason stoping us from doing so).Regarding friends, I would like to quote Imam Ali who has said the following:" A friend does not become a true beloved friend until he fulfills your rights in your presence, behind your back and when you die "Another classic example of rights of people in Islam are that if we have enough food to enjoy our meal while on the contrary, our neighbour is starving , and we are well aware of that, then we will be questioned on the day of judgement for not looking after our neighbour.Be blessed.
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.Wallaahu a'lam.
 

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These are Jesus' words, do you have them also in the Koran?"But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.If you love those who love you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to get back the same amount. But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil. Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful." Luke 6:27-36 ESV
 

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A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(Mighty Bear;32523)
These are Jesus' words, do you have them also in the Koran?"But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.If you love those who love you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to get back the same amount. But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil. Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful." Luke 6:27-36 ESV
Could you explain to me what does this verse meant ?Wallaahu a'lam.
 

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A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimCould you explain to me what does this verse meant ?Wallaahu a'lam.
It means, we shouldn't repay evil with evil, and Christians are not supposed to fight backand God expects us to be faithful until the end."Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and for ten days you will have tribulation. Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life."Revelation 2:10 ESV
 

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The difference between a Muslim martyr and Christian martyr:A Christian will die alone, a Muslim will kill as many innocents as possible in his/her own death.A Christian will die for what they believe, a Muslim will make you die for what they believe.Free eBook AntiChrist Islam's Awaited Messiahhttp://ToddSumrall.com
 

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A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimCould you explain to me what does this verse meant ?Wallaahu a'lam.
Love your enemies. Best example for explaining what it means would be Yeshua when he was getting his beard torn out and getting nailed to the cross. He could of called 10,000 angels and destroyed everybody. That was the power being nailed on that cross. Do you realize what COULD of happened?? But rather he prayed "Father forgive them for they know not what they do" Now that is love when you have the power to destroy. Undisputed and complete power to destroy and you forgive instead. This is YHWH's way because YHWH is revealed to us through Yeshua.Free eBook AntiChrist Islam's Awaited Messiahhttp://ToddSumrall.com
 

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These are Jesus' words, do you have them also in the Koran?"But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies,
Peace be upon YouWhen we say, love your enemies, do we mean to say that we should be tolerant, patient, forgiving and humble enough to let go of any personal hatred in our hearts for those whom we may not like for some personal reasons or who may have caused us harm or caused harm to our family & friends e.t.c ? If such is the perspective of “love thy enemies” then I agree with the Christian faith and I would like to inform that Islam highly recommends the same behaviour. Reference 1: Quran: “....pardon and forgive. Do you not love that Allâh should forgive your sins .“ Reference 2: Tradition: "Once the Prophet Muhammad went to Ta’if to preach the message of Allah, its people mistreated him, abused him and hit him with stones. He left the city humiliated and wounded. When he took shelter under a tree, the angel of Allah visited him and told him that Allah sent him to destroy the people of Ta’if because of their sin of maltreating their Prophet. Muhammad (may peace be upon him) prayed to Allah to save the people of Ta'if, because what they did was out of their ignorance."Be blessed
 

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A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(toddsumrall.com;32577)
The difference between a Muslim martyr and Christian martyr:A Christian will die alone, a Muslim will kill as many innocents as possible in his/her own death.A Christian will die for what they believe, a Muslim will make you die for what they believe.Free eBook AntiChrist Islam's Awaited Messiahhttp://ToddSumrall.com
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This is the sillies think i've ever heard from one of the christian in kind of you.Now let us use your sillies logic, shall we.Christian will die alone.... bla...bla...bla..I'm asking you this simple question, do you know how many Muslims dies in Afghanistan a long with US invade to that country ? More then 10.000 people. And do you know the most people who dying by US (Christian) weapon in that Country ? That is Women, children, and others of non innocent people.Again, i'm asking you this, how many an innocent civilian that being killed by those Christian soldier in Iraq ? Again, it's more then 10.000 an innocent people of Muslim has die because your (*Love enemy teach), i just want to say, bullshit. Do you how hurt it is, because of what you have done ? Event i was not an Iraqi people, but i can feel it paints.Again, i'm asking, how many Indian people of USA that still exist until now comparing before Christoper Columbus arrive in America Land ? It's only couple of the origin people of USA, now let us using your sillies logic, It is what you call with christian will die alone, love your enemy's ? Another bullshit word that i have to say regarding your sillies logical.See again the genocide of Bosnia, do you thing those (Cursed christian Serbia) people who have faith Christian, were die alone just like you said ? Another bullshit of your sillies logical.Do you know why Muslim have to prepare their self to die ?The problem of yours to us is, you are never want to see the fact of what your own people did to us instead of seeing always in false. If you don't want to suck with a bee, don't disturb the bee. As a mater a fact the bee will give his honey so you can be used. But if you disturbing the bee and destruct their house, don't blame that sucking you of being rude, just blame your self for doing such of destruction.So regarding on your sillies logical, you are only talking non sense. Sorry to say that
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.Regards,Ricky WWallaahu a'lam
 

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How could God be delighted in us when we cannot do anything without Him?That's why I believe that we are saved by faith alone. What we could possiblygive Him?, when He Himself gives us all things. That's why Christian teachingsare directed towards our neighbor. By becoming a martyr, we strengthen the faithof our fellow Christian believers. Why would God be delighted in pain?, though temporary,I don't think so. So I think it's all about love, that love endures all things.By pleasing our neighbor, we please God in the process and it is love."But he (Stephen), full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God." Acts 7:55 (ESV)"Then they cast him out of the city and stoned him. And the witnesses laid down their garments at the feet of a young man named Saul. And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, 'Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.' And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, 'Lord, do not hold this sin against them.' And when he had said this, he fell asleep."Acts 7:58-60 (ESV)"This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends if you do what I command you. No longer do I call you servants, for the servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all that I have heard from my Father I have made known to you." John 15:12-15 (ESV)"Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things."1 Corinthians 13:7 (ESV)
 

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A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimIf some "Jihadist" said this word what do you think ?... go and smite your enemy, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ...Wallaahu a'lam.
 

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A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimIf some "Jihadist" said this word what do you think ?... go and smite your enemy, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ...Wallaahu a'lam.
The New Testament is a new covenant with God, don't mix it with the Old Testament.Not all Christians will go to heaven."Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."Matthew 7:21 (ESV)
 

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Peace be upon YouIf such is the perspective of “love thy enemies” then I agree with the Christian faith and I would like to inform that Islam highly recommends the same behaviour.
Yes we can see the love of Islam in their desire for Jews which is the total destruction of them.Free eBook "AntiChrist Islam's Awaited Messiah"http://ToddSumrall.com
 

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A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiimIf some "Jihadist" said this word what do you think ?... go and smite your enemy, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ...Wallaahu a'lam.
Ricky,In the Old Testament we read God letting men do things that we thinks are cruel. He is God and he does everything on purpose. God can kill and he can give life. I am reading Genesis and I read God allowed Agar, the Egyptian servant, Ishmael’s mother to go out of Abraham’s home with her son. Someone might ask why would God did that or allowed such thing. But God did that on purpose. God said that Ishmael will not be the heir of his promise to Abraham. So he had to get rid of Ishmael out of the way ( Ishmael was Sarah’s idea not God's plan). I have read in other Old Testament chapters God ordering his men to kill people and destroy cities. Again we might ask why God did that. He had to do that to keep his promise to Abraham. Now, in the New Testament where God made a new covenant with man kind, God orders us to love, forgive and be kind to eachother. God is LoveGod bless,Ami
 

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Ricky, God has and will use one nation to bring judgment against another nation e.g. Iraq. However it isn't the Iraqi populus being attacked. It is the tyrinical evil radical Islamic system being attacked. The same system that according to the Bible, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, Turkey and many other Muslim nations will receive great judgment and destruction in the very near future. See when Jesus comes back, he's going to be mad. His robe will be dipped in the blood of Muslim nations. Islam great hatred of the Jews is the primary source of Yeshua's anger. Islam's hatred of Christianity is another. islam's hatred of freedom is another. The Day of the Lord as the Bible speaks of is a great and terrible day for Muslim nations. Download and read this eBook and maybe you can be saved and not be included in that day of the Lord.AntiChrist Islam's Awaited Messiahhttp://ToddSumrall.comRev 19:13 And he was clothed with a robe dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goes forth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. Joel 3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring back the captives of Judah and Jerusalem,Joel 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will enter into judgment with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and have divided up my land.
 

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The love of Islam from the Hadiths:"The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews and kill them; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees and these will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him!"Satan was a murderer from the beginning so Islam is a murderer.Free eBook "AntiChrist Islam's Awaited Messiah"http://ToddSumrall.comWhy should you read that book above? It is because of the importance Muslims place on the last days which the main players are the exact reverse of the main players in the bible. In other words, the bad guys in the bible are the good guys in Islam and the good guys in the Bible are the bad guys in Islam. Muslims are driven to fulfill their last days beliefs as taught in the Quran and Hadiths. The God of the Bible allows this to happen to bring about his purposes to show the world he is God when he defends the Jews from Muslims through a great destruction of Islamic nations.I also recommend that you watch these videos from Walid Shoebat. They are about 10 minutes each and there are 11 altogether. This is the link to part 1 and the rest of them can be accessed once there.http://youtube.com/watch?v=d1VzUy-Ou8Y