The Law of Moses Has Not Been Abolished

This study goes over why the Law of Moses has not been abolished, the differences between the old and new covenants, what it means to be circumcised in the heart, and to walk in spirit. The study can be found in English here The Law of Moses Has Not Been Abolished | Wisdom of God or in Spanish here La Ley de Moisés No Ha Sido Abolida | Sabiduria de Dios . Let us begin a discussion on these matters.

VictoryinJesus said:

Can I ask you what is the message of Jesus Christs' death and resurrection?

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Believe in the son of God, repent (which means stop breaking the Law of God), humble yourself (which means sell your possessions and reduce yourself to little), bear good fruit (which means to do good works, give to the poor), become baptized in the holy spirit (where you become freed from sin, you die to sin, and become inwardly perfected), then partake in the resurrection of the righteous (where you outwardly perfected). This is the message of the gospel, generalized.

VictoryinJesus said:

Hebrews 6:1 KJV
[1] Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

What does repentance of dead works mean? And if faith toward God? What is that faith?



For me, repentance from dead works means my attempts and striving to produce salvation through my flesh which is condemned and returning to the dust? Those works are dead. Through the flesh of Christ and His blood we move on to perfection. Faith that God will do what He said which is:
Hebrews 10:17-18 KJV
[17] And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. [18] Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

If you say: repentance of dead works of the flesh, as in you sin no more. EVER. Do you continually go back and lay that foundation again when your vile flesh fails?

Do you believe, as a woman, I should wear a veil when I have already passed through the veil which is Jesus Christ and been born of God?

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No sweet pea, "dead works" are actions that are evil that yield death. Meaning if you commit adultery, which is an action, you have now become worthy of dead in accordance to the Law of God, hence "dead works", which is also "bad fruit". Whereas the opposite of evil works, are good works. So rather than doing evil works that bring death unto you, now you must do good works that bring life, for any tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down. Your good works should come as a result of your belief in the Lord Jesus Christ, humility, and obedience to him. Giving to the Poor, and the Necessity of Good Works and Bearing Good Fruit | Wisdom of God .

As a wife you must veil yourself, because that is how you demonstrate your humility and submission as a wife. All are called to humble themselves, where husbands humble themselves in a different way by selling their possessions. Humility and Sell Your Possessions and Properties | Wisdom of God .

VictoryinJesus said:

All actions of the flesh yield death.
That is why the flesh is put to death; so that life (spirit) comes through Christ (the embodiment of the law). Not through works of the flesh(ours). The law condemns the flesh of man as unsuitable for the altar. Only Christ is pure and spotless and suitable for the altar. Only His work is acceptable to God as payment for sin.


Romans 8:6-8 KJV
[6] For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. [7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. [8] So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Give to the poor all you want.
It is not going to get you before a Holy God.
You are either carnally minded.
Or spiritually minded.
You can be double-minded. Tossed like a wave on the ocean.


Why would I wear a veil. When those in Christ are the light of the world. Why would I hide Him and not let what He has done for me shine like a beacon to the broken?


Philippians 2:15 KJV
[15] That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

2 Corinthians 3:6-9 KJV
[6] Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. [7] But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: [8] How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? [9] For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

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You say you are the light of the world, yet you deny doing works, which is the meaning itself of the parable of being the light of the world? LOL,

“You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden. Nor do people light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a stand, and it gives light to all in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven. (Matthew 5:14-16 [ESV])

You clearly have no understanding of the gospel woman. Read my studies that you may gain understanding, because there are very few people preaching the true message of Jesus Christ that I am trying to convey to you.

VictoryinJesus said:

You speak of good works.
Yet you are the one that does not even know the meaning of the good fruit produced by a good tree...

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Of what good is love if you see your brother hungry and do not feed him?

But if anyone has the world’s goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God’s love abide in him? (1 John 3:17 [ESV])

The fruits of the Spirit are not just happy and fluffy emotions, they are ACTIONS. You demonstrate the love in your heart by DOING GOOD. Understand,

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. (Matthew 7:21 [ESV])

Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. (Matthew 7:19 [ESV])

“‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen. (Ezekiel 16:49-50 [NIV])

Bring no more vain offerings; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot endure; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting. Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hates: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary of bearing them. And when you spread forth your hands, I will hide my eyes from you: yea, when you make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. Wash you, make yourself clean; put away the evil of your doings from before my eyes; cease to do evil; Learn to do good; seek justice, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. (Isaiah 1:13-17 [NLT])

Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Matthew 19:21 [NIV])

When Jesus heard his answer, he said, “There is still one thing you haven’t done. Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Luke 18:22 [NLT])

Looking at the man, Jesus felt genuine love for him. “There is still one thing you haven’t done,” he told him. “Go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” (Mark 10:21 [NLT])

Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. (Luke 12:33 [NIV])

But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, “Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount.” Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham.
(Luke 19:8-9 [NIV])

They sold their property and possessions and shared the money with those in need. (Acts 2:45 [NLT])

that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need. (Acts 4:34-35 [NIV])

Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need. (Ephesians 4:28 [ESV])

Bear fruit in keeping with repentance. (Matthew 3:8 [ESV])

Instead, I preached to those in Damascus first, and to those in Jerusalem and in all the region of Judea, and to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works worthy of repentance. (Acts 26:20 [HCSB])

You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you. (John 15:16 [ESV])

And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that having all sufficiency in all things at all times, you may abound in every good work. (2 Corinthians 9:8 [ESV])

Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from what is dishonorable, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart as holy, useful to the master of the house, ready for every good work. (2 Timothy 2:21 [ESV])

that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:17 [ESV])

Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work, (Titus 3:1 [ESV])

having good behavior among the nations, so in that of which they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they see, glorify God in the day of visitation. (1 Peter 2:12 [NHEB])

In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven. (Matthew 5:16 [ESV])

and having a reputation for good works: if she has brought up children, has shown hospitality, has washed the feet of the saints, has cared for the afflicted, and has devoted herself to every good work. (1 Timothy 5:10 [ESV])

And let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap, if we do not give up. (Galatians 6:9 [ESV])

Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent, and do the works you did at first. If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent. (Revelation 2:5 [ESV])

“If your brother becomes poor and cannot maintain himself with you, you shall support him as though he were a stranger and a sojourner, and he shall live with you. (Leviticus 25:35 [ESV])

You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the LORD. (Leviticus 19:18 [ESV])

and said, ‘Cornelius, your prayer has been heard, and your gifts to the poor have been remembered before God. (Acts 10:31 [BSB])

“Is not this the fast that I choose: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the straps of the yoke, to let the oppressed go free, and to break every yoke? Is it not to share your bread with the hungry and bring the homeless poor into your house; when you see the naked, to cover him, and not to hide yourself from your own flesh? Then shall your light break forth like the dawn... (Isaiah 58:6-9[ESV])

...Therefore, O king, may my advice be pleasing to you: break away now from your sins by doing righteousness and from your iniquities by showing mercy to the poor, in case there may be a prolonging of your prosperity.’ (Daniel 4:24-27 [NASB])

If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them. (James 4:17 [NIV])

Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye pay tithes of mint and anise and cummin, and ye have left aside the weightier matters of the law, judgment and mercy and faith: these ye ought to have done and not have left those aside. (Matthew 23:23 [DBT])

"ByGrace" said:

So...if you believe that, why are you here preaching to the converted?
Surly the message is for the great unwashed, not Christians!

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Because many of you are still lawless and think the Law has been abolished.

VictoryinJesus said:

No one can convince you, only God.

This life is temporal. There is no denying people are hurting. You have great empathy for the poor and hungry. I will not fault you there.

I will leave you with this though:

Do you want to give them something that really last or more of the temporal.
God provides the provision.
God provides Supernatural provision.
He teaches that in the fish and loaves.
Physical provision won't get it done. People are starving. They are in the fire and waiting to be plucked from it. They are in torment; no temporal handouts are going to quench that fire.

How do you break the yoke of burden around their neck?

Jesus is the bread given to the poor.

bring the poor into your house? what house? A spiritual one. The body of Christ. HIs storehouse house. HIs barn.

Are they naked...give them a coat. Whose the cover for their nakedness? Whose coat(without Seam) did they part as He hung on the cross?

God provides the supernatural provision. HIs "helper" the body distributes the goods. This is your good works. The Spirit does it. Is it based off love?


Luke 9:55-56 KJV
[55] But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. [56] For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them . And they went to another village.

How can you destribute when you won't even accept that Jesus Christ is your ONLY cover?

How can you remove the yoke from another neck...when you have one around yours. His yoke is light.

Revelation 3:18 KJV
[18] I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.


How can you be Spirit when you refuse to accept the provision the LORD provided for sin (which is the Lamb/Christ) and instead continue to provide your own cover for sin?

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What you're saying is complete foolishness. It's as if you're wanting to say , "Go in peace" without wanting to actually do good by providing for the needs of the poor and the hungry,

If one of you says to them, "Go in peace; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead. But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds." Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that--and shudder. You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? (James 2:16-20 [NIV])

Thinking that a message of "go in peace" is sufficient, while leaving your brother hungry. Everything that happens in the world is appointed by God, and he has appointed the existence of the needy that we, as the elect, may demonstrate righteousness in doing good to them with ACTIONS,

For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. (Ephesians 2:10 [NIV])

How much longer will you be stubborn and fail to understand that YOU MUST DO GOOD WORKS, otherwise your faith is dead and useless. Get off your lazy butt and stop finding stupid excuses to not do good and DO GOOD,

“Is not this the fast that I choose: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the straps of the yoke, to let the oppressed go free, and to break every yoke? Is it not to share your bread with the hungry and bring the homeless poor into your house; when you see the naked, to cover him, and not to hide yourself from your own flesh? Then shall your light break forth like the dawn, and your healing shall spring up speedily; your righteousness shall go before you; the glory of the LORD shall be your rear guard. Then you shall call, and the LORD will answer; you shall cry, and he will say, ‘Here I am.’ If you take away the yoke from your midst, the pointing of the finger, and speaking wickedness, (Isaiah 58:6-9 [ESV])

“Wash yourselves, and make yourselves clean; remove your evil behavior from my presence; stop practicing what is evil. Learn to practice what is good; seek justice, alleviate oppression, defend orphans in court, and plead the widow’s case. “Please come, and let’s reason together,” implores the LORD. “Even though your sins are like scarlet, they’ll be white like snow. Though they’re like crimson, they’ll become like wool. (Isaiah 1:16-18 [ISV])

"ByGrace" said:

So how is your 'keeping of the law perfectly' , working out for you?

Glad to meet a person who can actually live perfection.
Wish I could shake your hand.

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Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. (Matthew 5:48 [NIV])