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You seem to be misinterpreting scripture. Cain the son of the devil and anyway wasn't cain's lineage destroyed in the flood only 8 people survived and they had no link to cain. secondly when you say satan is the anti-christ are we talking about the beast or the dragon as the book of Revelation clearly says the beast is empowered by the dragon. I am convinced the beast is the anti-christ spoken of. Revelation 19:20 clearly says the beast is cast alive into a fire burning with brimstone. This beast is obviously a living being.
Hi Alistein No I am not misinterpting scripture at all I have backed everything I have said Dragon,beast, son of perdition, these are all names for Satan God uses names to depict differnt sides of a person just as Christ was called the Lamb,Savior, Son, ect he does the same with Satan he is called many things in scripture, try a google search on the names of Satan you will be suprised and Kennites directly translates to descentands of Cain, And some did make it through the flood. This is what was taught by those that learned from the Apostels themselfs until the church changed the teachings. There are two trains of thought here one is the flood wasnt world wide, see the followinglink.http://www.christianityboard.com/fallen-an...lood-t7030.htmlThe other is that they were on the ark with Noah Gen says two of everything with the breath of life was on board the ark. True There were only eight Adamic(pure blood line) on the ark but that doesnt mean there were not others.
 

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They are not all names for satan. I have checked scripture as well. However I won't really debate that but your idea of saying Satan is the beast or is a system is just utterly wrong considering the beast was cast alive into the fire. You don't cast a sytem alive into the fire. Like i said you are misinterpreting things,the bible clearly says only eight souls were saved nothing like pure blood Adamic bloodlinewho disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water. Stick to scriptures and not theories. I would reply to your theory but it has no basis here.
 

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There are two beasts in Rev the first beast is a system the second is Satan . And it is scripture 2 of every thing with the breath of life it. I have already proved it in scripture if you reread the thread. It says Noah and all those with him. You are right there were only eight adamic souls. That is of pure (bloodline) the others were not the very name Noah means Perfect pure Not of morals but of body(blood) NOAH "PERFECT". (GEN. 6:9). The Heb. word tamim means without blemish, and is the technical word for bodily and physical perfection, and not moral. Hence it is used of animals of sacrificial purity. It is rendered without blemish in Ex. 12:5; 29:1. Lev. 1:3, 10; 3:1, 6; 4:3, 23, 28, 32; 5:15, 18; 6:6; 9:2, 3; 14:10; 22:19; 23:12, 18. Num. 6:14; 28:19, 31; 29:2, 8, 13, 20, 23, 29, 32, 36. Ezek. 43:22, 23, 25; 45:18, 23; 46:4, 6, 13. Without Spot. Num. 19:2; 28:3, 9, 11; 29:17, 26. Undefiled. Ps. 119:1. This shows that Gen. 6:9 does not speak of Noah's moral perfection, but tells us that he and his family alone had preserved their pedigree and kept it pure, in spite of the prevailing corruption brought about by the fallen angels. See Ap. 23 and 25.
 

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How is the first beast a system and just where is this first beast mentioned? The beast in Revelation is said to be alive and cast into fire there is no way a system can be cast into fire alive since babylon in thesame book is only burnt or destroyed in one hour while the beast is cast ALIVE into fire and will be tormented forever. it is seen that the Devil is alive and bound for a thousand years and later put in the same place with the beast. I don't see any proof yet since every thing you have said is purely speculation and not properly backed by scriptures. At one point in a thread you said God's word mean't what it said but now you seem to be bringing hidden meanings into things which is it. I don't recall John ever saying such things but you could show me. Noah's perfection does not refer to bodily perfection it says he was perfect in his generation not before God also Gen6:8 said he found grace in the eyes of the Lord and Hebrews explains things better. Noah was saved by grace. God justified by grace just like He did Abram The Heb. word tamim means without blemish indeed but according to Strongs it can be used literary and figuratively as well.
 

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In chapter 13 we will find the rise of two beasts. One will be the rise of a one world political system and the other will be the rise of the religious beast which is the anti-Christ. 1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. In Revelation 17:15 it tells us that the waters represent the mass of people from every race and nation. Out of the waters are the people that the one world political system will rise from. 2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. Swift like a leopard, trample like a bear, and the tearing power of the lion. Satan's spiritual powers will utilize this political system, or one world order. (This one world order started to take shape around 2005). 3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. This one world power will almost come together but it receives a deadly wound and fall apart. But, Satan will come as anti-Christ playing the roll of Jesus to heal the wound and bring it all together. Much of the world will marvel at this miracle and follow after Satan. 4And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? Many will worship Satan and the political system. This is when the spiritual war will take place against him. 5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.And if you read my above post about Noah you would see that is what the hebrew says not me and the book was written in hebrew
 

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I read your above post about Noah and I disagree with it. I do not believe that is what scriptures say. To be honest your explanation sounds good but there asre still some holes in it. I have heard it many times. First there is a lot of symboism here and i will not say i understand. In Chapter 12 the Dragon ia describe as having 7heads and 10 horns yet this dragon is explained to be the devil the serpent in the garden in Genesis 3. In chapter 13 two beasts are introduced as in chapter 12 one has 7 heads and 10 horns exactly like the dragon however it is called a beast not the dragon so it is clearly not the dragon his features are explained in 13:2 and he is empowered by satan (the dragon).The second beast is introduced in 13:11 (the false prophet). However both beasts are taken in Revelation 19:20 and cast alive into a fire burning with brimstone. My point here is if one is the devil or a system how can it be cast alive into the fire and why say they were both cast alive. It must mean they were both alive. You also can not cast a system into a fire since it is abstract.Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh.Also if the waters represent people and the beast rose from the sea couldn't he be a man and not the devil or a system also since Rev 12 described the devil as having 7 heads and 10 horns was it describing a system or something else . It is made certain that we understand it is not a system but the devil himself the seven heads and 10 horns could be features or attributes he possesses which he passes to the beast(not certain of that). There is nothing that says the first beast would be the rise of a one world political system only that it has 7 heads and 10 horns which could mean so many things.
 

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Well if you want to argue the hebrew go ahead but it says what it sayseven the history channel has that part right:) ...............and the symbology in Rev. Makes the first beast a system heads are kings leaders/ they were given crowns horns are power. This is the one world system it will receive a woundbefore becoming complete and it is Satan/antichrist that will heal the wound and set up his own system. the devil lucifer, Satan is described as a man by God in Isa. 14:16 and Eze. 28 he is also called the king/prince of Tyre.
 

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I am not arguing any hebrew don't even see what hebrew as to do with this. the new testament was written in Greek and not Hebrew, So hebrew as little to do with it. I am not familiar with the history channels finding and I would rather stick with believers on this subject as most secular stations always stir controversy. You say satan is describes as a man by God well so are angels Revelation 21:17 There are numerous scriptures that show angels as men. However there isn't any real backing to this 7 heads and ten horns representing a system if they did not represent one in chapter 12 how do they suddenly become one in chapter 13 and how do yo arrive at the devil being the beast also what does Revelation 19:20 mean who is the beast and false prophet thrown into the fire and how is the devil able to make war a thousand years after when these 2 beasts are still in the fire, can the devil be intwo places at once?
 

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serpent = Greek word #3789 ophis (of’-is); probably from 3700 (through the idea of sharpness of vision); a snake, figurative (as a type of sly cunning) an artful malicious person [, especially Satan: —serpent.] The words in brackets were not included in Denver’s, not so concise, definition of the word serpent, even though they are part of Strong’s definition. beguiled = Greek word #1818 “exapatao” (ex-ap-at-ah-o); to seduce wholly. [— beguile, deceive.] Again, Denver did not include Strong’s entire definition. This is nothing but deception. He totally leaves out the words that the translators used to translate exapataho. And, this is done on purpose!
The funny thing is here, you're trying to paint me as a liar and you're proving exactly what I say. Number one, the rest of the definition is not needed because it's already stated in my study there and I frequently cite Revelation 12 which is the "ultimate" authority on this since it's the Bible itself.Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Frankly speaking, I think it's a joke you're trying to make this some mysterious lie. To suggest that I'm trying to palm something off in the Word when we provide and suggest looking it up on your own is silly.So let's skip this trash and get to the remainder of what you've said.Now you then move on to the way that I have "redefined" something that's printed right there in front of you. The tangent you proceed off on hinges on disproving this single word which I clearly do not base my entire study on.Somewhat ironically I suppose, you do decide to blatantly lie about how many times seduce appears in the Bible. Now, I'm not sure if you're using a KJV or what, but I count more than three:http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?q...ce&qs_version=9Seduce is always either used, as I have presented, in the explicitly sexual manner or it is used to make the point of the harlot that would have been the bride of Christ, had she not been deceived. Although not explicitly sexual, a sexual metaphor is being used by mere connotation of the word.However, again you try to falsely set this up as the entire crux of the argument. Another lie yourself, that's now two.
Oooops!! I don’t know who you are going to believe but I do know who I am going to believe, and it sure “ain’t” them. Jesus the Christ identifies who they are. If you still want to believe the deceiving seedliner’s interpretation of John 8:44 then you must also be prepared to believe that Abraham is of the seed of Cain, and when you carry it to its final conclusion, it is demanded of you, to believe that Jesus the Christ is also the seed of Cain!! It can be no other way because the deceiving seedliners are demanding a literal interpretation of John 8:44.
And here you have missed the boat.Rather obviously, there is not a pure line. It just seems to me that common sense would dictate that all of these lines have mingled in procreation at some point. Yes the priests did have some blood of Abraham in them.In fact, we have Scriptural documentation of the pollution of the priesthood - Ezra 2:62 and Nehemiah 7:64.
 

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I am not arguing any hebrew don't even see what hebrew as to do with this. the new testament was written in Greek and not Hebrew, So hebrew as little to do with it. I am not familiar with the history channels finding and I would rather stick with believers on this subject as most secular stations always stir controversy. You say satan is describes as a man by God well so are angels Revelation 21:17 There are numerous scriptures that show angels as men. However there isn't any real backing to this 7 heads and ten horns representing a system if they did not represent one in chapter 12 how do they suddenly become one in chapter 13 and how do yo arrive at the devil being the beast also what does Revelation 19:20 mean who is the beast and false prophet thrown into the fire and how is the devil able to make war a thousand years after when these 2 beasts are still in the fire, can the devil be intwo places at once?
I was refering to Noah being pure of body and yes it is hebrew its in the old testament (Gen) not the new And yes you are right it makes my point angels appear as men as will Satan,Thats what Im saying Satan is Antichrist.12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.What do you think ten Kings with one mind is if not a system???13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the ***** sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the *****, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
 

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What do you mean Noah being pure of body and where is that written? as I have said Noah was saved by grace not because he was pure or anything the bible says he was perfect in His generation there is no one that can be perfect or pure of themselves in God's sight. Satan being a man still does not explain anything. It clearly in Chapter 12 says the dragon is the serpent and devil and in chapter 13 that he gave his power tothe beast not that he changed to the beast or that he gave power to a system. Then the beast is mentioned several times not as a system but as a living thing and hee is eventually cast ALIVE into fire. How is that possible a system cannot be cast into fire and more so certainly not alive. This disproves it being a system at no time does the book of Revelation hint on iot being a system.
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.What do you think ten Kings with one mind is if not a system???
It just says the ten horns are 10 kings not a system and can't 10 kings have one mind. they have one mind not system and again it says they will give their power unto th beast not a system. Is the Lamb a system? No obviously. why do you think God would be contradicrting things why would He be changing meanings in every verse. Whatever the beast is when it appers thatis what it is till it is cast into fire and that is a living thing, a person not a system and certainly not the devil.17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.Does a sytem have hearts? If you read the bible literary it might surprise you to see what you will find. Many today are defining scriptures from the way they see society like some try to use the bible to say the world is really millions or billions of years simply because evolutionist say so. Start from the bible and the let the society be the one to redfine itself fitting in scriptures.Show scriptures that clearl say the beast is a system or the anti-christ and you still have not answered my questions.
 

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Revelation 17:12-13
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
One mind...one system. I don't know what's so difficult about seeing that they'll all work for the same end. Clearly the description says it will be a system because the heads only make up part of the dragon. The 10 kings are only part of what's going on. What about the seven heads, for instance? Keep in mind this is all a part of the one!Verse 10 surely references seven other kings!Revelation 17:10
And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
Getting to the beast and the false prophet...Revelation 17:8
And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
The beast is part of the seven but also part of eight. How so? Because at the base of him is the antichrist, which is the 7th king and part of the others.Revelation 17:15
And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the ***** sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
Finally, finish it off with verse seventeen.Revelation 17:17
For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
The second beast, which is clearly the false prophet's description:Revelation 13:11
And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Now what is the other Lamb in the good book of Revelation?Revelation 5:6
And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
Revelation 7:10
And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
The Lamb is very clearly Jesus the Christ! The lamb that speaks as a dragon clearly appears to be the Lamb, but the moment he opens his trap to speak, you'll know him for what he is because he is not of the Father. He is the fake, the look-alike fake.
 

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The last days “man of sin” is a Jewish prince, so say the scriptures.Fact; The only way to truly understand last days prophecy is to study the text from it's original language. The definitions of some of the key Hebrew and Greek words from those prophecies are far to complex to be understood from our English translations.Fact; The last days man of sin is mentioned in both the Old and New Testaments. Most of the knowledge that the apostles had concerning this man of sin was foretold by the prophets in the Old Testament. Jesus even referred to Daniel and the abomination of desolation of the antichrist when speaking of the end times.Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand) Then a warning from christ that is repeated in Rev 13.Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Rev 13:13 And he (False prophet i.e. second beast) doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. If you study the Gospels you will find that Jesus never went into great detail about this figure. He made cryptic mentions of him a few times. Once he referred to him when he said to the Jewish people; Joh 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. How do I know he was referring to the last days man of sin and world leader? Simple deductive reasoning. Jesus is the Messiah. The Jews rejected him and he said they would will accept someone else as their Messiah. Would the Jews ever accept a non Jew as their Messiah? Not a chance.Fact;The Laws of Moses and the writings of the prophets demand that the Messiah be descended from the lineage of David, a Jew. Even an atheistic Jew would never have a non Jewish leader. Name one non Jewish prime Minister of Israel. Name one Leader of a Jewish organization that is not a Jew. Is there anyone else in prophecy that matches this description? Yes, The prince in Daniel 9:25-27 the same one that breaks the covenant and sets up the abomination of desolation. He is also described in Daniel chapter 11 where he becomes King and rules from Mt Zion (the “holy mountain” and temple mound) in Jerusalem. (Dan 11:31,36,45)Now we come the the most decisive scriptures identifying this last days “man of sin”.Ezekiel 21:25-2725: And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end, 26: Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high. 27: I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.As I said at the beginning, you must study the scriptures from the text of the original language. The definitions of the translated words are not always the same.Right off the bat we find a problem with the English translation. The word ‘profane’ in verse 25 describing this “profane wicked Prince of Israel” is translated wrong in the King James version. According to the Strongs Exhaustive Concordance the Hebrew word that ‘profane’ was translated from is chalal, châlâl {khaw-lawl'}, and this word is used 94 times in the Old Testament. It was translated; ‘slay’ 78 times, ‘wounded’ 10 times, ‘profane’ 3 times and that includes this time, it was translated ‘kill’ twice, and ‘slain man’ once. The correct translation is “slain, fatally wounded, or pierced.” The misunderstanding or mistake in the King James Version is probably because the translators could not understand how the prince could be slain or dead, and still be alive as he obviously is in the scripture. The correct translation should be “And you, deadly wounded, wicked Prince of Israel"Thus a deadly wound that is healed. He will be killed, and come back to life, just as he is described in Revelations 13 and 17.Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yetis. The “beast that was, and is not, and yet is.”???? What does that mean? It means that he was alive, “that was” he's killed “is not” and comes back to life “and yet is.” Just as the deadly wounded prince of Israel is in Eze 21.'profane' Ezek. 21:25 Lexicon Results for chalal (Strong's 02491) Hebrew for 02491 Pronunciation Guide chalal châlâl {khaw-lawl'} TWOT Reference Root Word TWOT - 660a from 02490 Part of Speech n m, adj. Outline of Biblical Usage n m 1) slain, fatally wounded, pierced a) pierced, fatally wounded
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slainadj. 2) (CLBL) profaned a) defiled, profaned (by divorce) Authorized Version (KJV) Translation Count — Total: 94 AV - slay 78 times, wounded 10 times, profane 3 times, kill 2 times, slain man 1 time; out of 94 timesFor those of you that think that this is just my opinion, and I have some how misunderstood the Hebrew language. Consider these translators take on the translation of the word profane. NASB 'And you, O slain, wicked one, the prince of Israel, whose day has come, in the time of the punishment of the end,' ASV And thou, O deadly wounded wicked one, the prince of Israel, whose day is come, in the time of the iniquity of the end, HNV You, deadly wounded wicked one, the prince of Yisra'el, whose day is come, in the time of the iniquity of the end, MKJV And you, O slain, wicked king of Israel, of whom has come his day in the time of iniquity of the end. YLT And thou, wounded, wicked one, Prince of Israel, whose day hath come, In the time of the iniquity of the end!YOUNG'S And thou, wounded, wicked one, Prince of Israel, whose day hath come, In the time of the iniquity of the end! I have found no where in the Bible that says that either kings Jehoiachin or Zedekiah ever received a deadly wound and lived. Zedekiah had his eyes put out (2Ki 25) but it says nothing about a life taking or deadly wound.Now lets take a look at the rest of those scriptures. Verse 25 “when iniquity shall have an end,” or when there is no more transgressions of the Laws of God. The reference of “iniquity shall have an end” is to me obviously speaking of when Jesus sets up his kingdom on earth at the end of days. No more iniquity or the transgression of God's laws will occure. And in verse 26 it refers to the same time period by stating “exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.” When Jesus spoke of his coming Kingdom in Mathew 23:12 he said: “And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.” In verse 26 it says that God himself will take away the crown from this “profane, wicked prince of Israel,” and in verse 27 it says God will give the crown to him “whose right it is” There is only one man who’s right it is to wear the crown in Israel, and that is Jesus the Christ!Thus the scriptures in both the Old and New Testaments Identify the man of sin as a Jew. I do not like using the title of antichrist because according to the Bible all men who deny that Jesus is the Christ is an antichrist. 1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth theFather and the Son. 1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: but he that acknowledgeth theSon hath the Father also. 2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come inthe flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. The spirit of antichrist is alive in many people today and that spirit is dominant in Judaism. Google come and here Talmud and see for yourself.Read the book of Acts and you will find that the vast majority of those John is writing about in those verses are Jews. Take a look at those that constantly persecute Paul throughout his mission. Take alook at his epistles or letters to the Church's. He is nearly always fighting against the Judaising of Jewish members (Circumcised?) in the church's. Now before someone screams anti-Semite! (add nausea) remember St John and St Paul were Jews. And I did not write the book of Acts or the New Testament gospels or letters. Jesus as well as Paul both made it clear that a Jew is not a Jew because he is born one, but because he lives by faith. The circumcision of the heart, not of the flesh is what qualifies a man to be called the chosen of God.I put the (add nausea) in that statement because anyone that dares to speak the truth about Jews andtheir destructive moral influence on Christian's and society in general through their TV networks and movies is automatically branded an anti-Semite by the Jewish owned media which makes me sick.1. Rupert Murdoch, [Jewish mother and Zionists], CEO and owner of FOX.2. Gerald Levin, [Jew], CEO Time Warner (AOL, CNN, Time Inc.) Largest media conglomerate today. 3. Robert Iger [Jew] CEO of ABC Disney4. Jeff Zucker [Jew] President of NBC and Universal pictures.5. Sherry Lansing (born Sherry Lee Heimann) [Jewess] CBS Television and CBS radio Showtime, MTV, Nickelodeon, Black Entertainment Television, Country Music Television. 6.Sumner Redstone (born Murray Rothstein) [Jew] ViacomThis is a very partial list. The news papers and cable TV is also completely dominated by Jewish ownership and control.Is it antisemitic to state the facts? Go to google and find the websites of the major networks as well as the newspapers and see for yourselves. It is not a coincidence that an ethnic group comprising of only 2% of the population of America control virtually all the media. The media has vast power over the way you think. That is a fact whether you know or accept it or not.
 

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The early church and the apostles taught that Antichrist is Satan himselfAs does scripture If antichrist is Satan as taught he will be claiming to be Christ therefore claiming Christ genealogy as his own. That is claiming to be a Jew but is not just as spoken of in the church of Smyrna and Philadelphia You can read of this from the head of the church of Smryna in the following free book http://www.christianityboard.com/free-book...-rev-t6226.html
 

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I was refering to Noah being pure of body and yes it is hebrew its in the old testament (Gen) not the new And yes you are right it makes my point angels appear as men as will Satan,Thats what Im saying Satan is Antichrist.
Fact;The word Hebrew describing a people is not used in the Bible until after Abraham. Abraham was considered the first Hebrew by the Jews. He was also the great great great grandson of Noah. Who was the father of all the gentile nations. You can't be both a Hebrew and a gentile at the same time. Read Gen chapters 10 & 11.And how can Satan be the Antichrist when he is a completely different entity in these scriptures.Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. How can he already be in hell as it says the beast (antichrist) and then be cast into it?Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? Who is the dragon that is supposed to give Satan his power?And if he is the Dragon why does he need to give power to himself?Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, This scripture names the dragon as SatanFact;So the antichrist is not the dragon which is Satan.Fact;The antichrist is a Jewish Prince just as I proved beyond any doubt in my previous post.You really need to read your Bible and stop leaving out the parts you don't agree with.
 

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Do you know how many names Satan is called in scripture ??http://www.christianityboard.com/satan-and...ght=Names+SatanAnd there are two beasts in Rev. the first is a one World system the second is Antichrist/Satan and his system Revelation 13:2 "And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority."Though the one world political system is in place and functioning as a governing body, after it is considered reliable, something will come about to bring down that government. This political beast has the "feet of a bear", and we know that has to be Russia [Esau]. The mouth of the beast is the "mouth of a lion", which will tare it's prey with his lies and deceitfulness. "And the Dragon gave him his power," and we know the Dragon from Revelation 12:9 is Satan. The driving force within "one worldism" is Satan,Revelation 13:3 "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.One of the ten countries in the leadership of the beast "were wounded unto death". How does a office, or government of a country die? Of course in that the political system falls apart.It was the beast that healed it's own wound. It doesn't take to much thinking to see what nation of immense strength fell, and then was propped up by the world wide system of this political beast.Revelation 13:4 "And they worshipped the dragon which [because he] gave power [his authority] unto the the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?The Christian world will also worship Satan [the Antichrist] and his "one world system", because they will think that he is Christ.The political beast has another head, and it is the head of an religious beast. When the authority behind this political beast arrives on earth, at that time the people of the world will call him "saviour". That authority [in verse two] is Satan, the dragon, and he is cast onto the earth by Michael. The "head wound" is not to an individual then, but to a "political system". When one of the major players drops out of that system, it will be in serious trouble of ending. We see also that if the system is world wide, no one could make war with it, for their all part of it. Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power [authority] was given unto him to continue forty and two months."When Satan has arrived to rule over this beast, or one world system, and out of his mouth will come all sorts of lies and blasphemies. He has power only because he was given that power and authority from God, as we saw in Revelation 9:1. Now note how long it is for: "forty two months". Remember, all times given in days are given to the children of God of the light, while all times given in months or moons pertain to Satan and his system of darkness. Revelation 9:5, 10 let us know that this time has been shortened to five months for the elects sake. Daniel 8:22-24 tells us that Satan comes in peacefully, and prosperous, and those within his system will have the same prosperity. Who can fight that promise? How much is your soul worth? Satan is not here now, however, when he arrives as the Antichrist, he will offer you to what ever you think your soul is worth.Revelation 13:6 "And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven."Satan [the Antichrist] is mad and in rage against God, and all who are God's children, as well as the authorities in heaven, and this is because he just got kicked out of heaven. There is only one group of people that will not accept Satan, and that is God's elect. They know what is to come upon the earth, while all others will worship Satan, and be part of his system.Revelation 13:7 "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nation."
 

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Quoting more scriptures doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.Neither did you even attempt to address the problems I brought up with your unscriptural theories.You are unscrupulous. You quote scriptures from Daniel (Dan 8:22-24) and then instead of quoting the scriptures ,you put your own words in place of the actual scriptures, including adding the name Satan where a king should be.Unless you don't care what the Bible says I suggest you take a look a what the scriptures say about what happens to those that add to or take away from the word.
 

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Quoting more scriptures doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.Neither did you even attempt to address the problems I brought up with your unscriptural theories.You are unscrupulous. You quote scriptures from Daniel (Dan 8:22-24) and then instead of quoting the scriptures ,you put your own words in place of the actual scriptures, including adding the name Satan where a king should be.Unless you don't care what the Bible says I suggest you take a look a what the scriptures say about what happens to those that add to or take away from the word.
Another false accusations eh? What makes you think it's not Satan? Can a single human make everybody worship a devil? I'm afraid not.You seem to forget the first liar (John 8:44) whom has his physical seed still on Earth (Genesis 3:15, Matthew 3:7) which his first son is a murderer (Genesis 4:8, I John 3:12)Don't ever accuse someone for knowing the Truth, and don't claim men words as God's Words.
 

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Quoting more scriptures doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.Neither did you even attempt to address the problems I brought up with your unscriptural theories.You are unscrupulous. You quote scriptures from Daniel (Dan 8:22-24) and then instead of quoting the scriptures ,you put your own words in place of the actual scriptures, including adding the name Satan where a king should be.Unless you don't care what the Bible says I suggest you take a look a what the scriptures say about what happens to those that add to or take away from the word.
And if you read the sentence as I wrote it IT SAYs Daniel 8 Tell us tells us I wasnt trying to quote it I forgot the space button and put the link so one could read it themselvesso because I didnt answer the question to your satifaction you call names and make accusation??? obviously you dont care what scripture says and the early chuch fathers taught you think you know it all.If you read this entire post I have proved it just because you are new to it and obviosly havent read ir doesnt mean I havent proved just didnt have time to replty to every one of your scriptures guess I didnt find your post as important as you think you are
 
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