A question about Cain

(ROS777;3347)
I am reading ( skimming right now ) Sargon the Magnificent. Have you read this and if so, what's your thoughts? I ask this because you mentioned that Cain's name means possession and as we know names are quite important in the Bible. Apparently, Cain took his share of possessions in the world. I had said earlier that maybe he did repent eventually. What do you think of that also?
I have not read Sargon so can't give you an opinionbut I do not think Cain ever repented as you say Ros777 there is no evidence I know of that Cain ever felt remorse

(kriss;3351)
I have not read Sargon so can't give you an opinionbut I do not think Cain ever repented as you say Ros777 there is no evidence I know of that Cain ever felt remorse
There is as much evidence that Cain felt remorse as there is that he grumbled.

(evechot;3333)
:study: God it not want anyone to kill Cain. Because Cain suffered more through the guilty feeling of killing his brother. Sometimes we punish our self more than others can.
God didn't allow anyone to kill Cain,because God has had a plan from the beginning and the descendants of Cain play apart in his plan.Not because Cain felt any guilt or remorseexcept for as pointer said Cain felt bad for his self

(ROS777;3364)
1John 3:12: " not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works were evil and his brothers's righteous.Jude 11 : Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah.There we go; the witness of two of the New Testament Writers, Pointer and all.
What do these verses prove?

(ROS777;3369)
more importantly, what are you trying to prove, pointer?
If you don't know, why are you directing verses to me?

(ROS777;3371)
Are you a atheist, agnostic or Christian?
If I am an atheist, will that justify your point of view?
And if you're a Christian, are your views different then this forum?
Your view about Cain is in a minority, as you seem to be well aware:
There we go; the witness of two of the New Testament Writers, Pointer and all.
The witness of these writers to what, exactly?

(ROS777;3373)
You are putting forth the ideal that I'm in the minority-so you prove it.
Quote:'There we go; the witness of two of the New Testament Writers, Pointer and all.'

(ROS777;3376)
Oh I get it ---you're implying that I was implying that everyone agreed with you. LOL Wow, now that's a big leap of faith LOL
As not one word of the above is true, there seems little point in replying further.

(ROS777;3153)
Why did God say that Cain would be avenged 7 fold should anyone harm him?So is that it-to test men; whether they would follow God or reject God ?satan is the son of perdition; evil spirits also to test men ( although beleivers have power over the devil and evil spirits)Do you agree, SwampFox?
Here is a quote from an author, many years ago, pertaining to Cain:“Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him seven-fold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should slay.”And what a token of the blind perver¬sity of the natural mind is given in the fact that in this marvelous extension of mercy to Cain there is seen by thousands even of professed Christians only an ad¬vertisement and condemnation of Cain and his guilt, and all emblazoned before the universe! These refer to “the mark of Cain” as if it were distiguishing blood-red mark of his guilt and condem¬nation branded upon him by God to enlist all men also in the condemnation; and according to this blind and perverse nation; they promptly enlist in the hue and cry of the condemnation of Cain and other sinners, and condemn themselves in their condemnation of him and others. In this blind perversity they overlook the divine and glorious truth that with God there is forgiveness, not condemnation, of sinners; that God gave not his son to condemn the world nor any man, but that the world and all men through him might be saved. John 3:17.{657}Cain was guilty, that is true, and by his transgression and his guilt he was condemned accordingly; this he showed by his fearful complaint. But God did not add to the condemnation; added condemnation never helps anybody. No; the merciful God extended forgiveness; and merciful consideration so that the guilty one might be encouraged to believe in and receive the merciful forgiveness.And the “mark” which “the Lord set” upon Cain was the full assurance to him and to all men that there was extended to him this merciful consideration and probation; for the word distinctly says that the Lord set this “mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should slay him.” It was thus the divine surety that no one should slay him. It was therefore a divine pledge of the divine protection; and in this it was the full assurance of the extension of merciful forgiveness, and of merciful consideration and probation in order that he might avail himself of the forgiveness and salvation of the Lord “in full assurance of faith.”And thus was the gospel in its blessed fulness preached to all the world in the case and for the salvation of the first open sinner in the world after The Fall.And, sad to say, as for any faith and salvation of Cain, it was all in vain. Still through it all Cain remained unre¬pentant. Instead of allowing this mar¬velous mercy and goodness of God to lead him to repentance, he made it rather the sanction of his continuance in hardness of heart and transgression." End QuoteBlessings in Christ,John S. [email protected]

This is one of those writings where the words sound holy and right but its just somebody's opinion its complete speculation contrary to whats written in Gen.First thing is Cain was the offspring of Satan (the serpent) if you have an deeper understanding what Genisis says, some Hebrew language interpetation is needed .see true sin of Garden of Eden http://www.christianityboard.com/true-sin-...study-t509.htmleven the writer himself acknowledges that Cain was unrepentant and a murderer yet somehow concludes God marked him to be looked up to as a good example to us? I think Not Secondly the mark Cain received it is the same/ or type of mark as the MARK OF THE BEAST in the book of Revelation so it isn't a mark of compassion and forgiveness, salvation or anything of the kind.Thanks for posting this Heisnear it serves as a good example to all of us just because something sounds Christian and has nice message doesn't mean its scriptural.

(HeisNear;4643)
Here is a quote from an author, many years ago, pertaining to Cain:“Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him seven-fold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should slay.”And what a token of the blind perver¬sity of the natural mind is given in the fact that in this marvelous extension of mercy to Cain there is seen by thousands even of professed Christians only an ad¬vertisement and condemnation of Cain and his guilt, and all emblazoned before the universe! These refer to “the mark of Cain” as if it were distiguishing blood-red mark of his guilt and condem¬nation branded upon him by God to enlist all men also in the condemnation; and according to this blind and perverse nation; they promptly enlist in the hue and cry of the condemnation of Cain and other sinners, and condemn themselves in their condemnation of him and others. In this blind perversity they overlook the divine and glorious truth that with God there is forgiveness, not condemnation, of sinners; that God gave not his son to condemn the world nor any man, but that the world and all men through him might be saved. John 3:17.{657}Cain was guilty, that is true, and by his transgression and his guilt he was condemned accordingly; this he showed by his fearful complaint. But God did not add to the condemnation; added condemnation never helps anybody. No; the merciful God extended forgiveness; and merciful consideration so that the guilty one might be encouraged to believe in and receive the merciful forgiveness.And the “mark” which “the Lord set” upon Cain was the full assurance to him and to all men that there was extended to him this merciful consideration and probation; for the word distinctly says that the Lord set this “mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should slay him.” It was thus the divine surety that no one should slay him. It was therefore a divine pledge of the divine protection; and in this it was the full assurance of the extension of merciful forgiveness, and of merciful consideration and probation in order that he might avail himself of the forgiveness and salvation of the Lord “in full assurance of faith.”And thus was the gospel in its blessed fulness preached to all the world in the case and for the salvation of the first open sinner in the world after The Fall.And, sad to say, as for any faith and salvation of Cain, it was all in vain. Still through it all Cain remained unre¬pentant. Instead of allowing this mar¬velous mercy and goodness of God to lead him to repentance, he made it rather the sanction of his continuance in hardness of heart and transgression." End QuoteBlessings in Christ,John S. [email protected]
I agree with this, throughout this thread we are trying to come to terms with what we understand God should have done. The fact remains, the begining of the bible is meant to illustrate the nature of God and his relationship to man. God showed and shows His infinite mercy on those He choses, when He choses to. It doesn't really have to make sence sometimes, He was mercyful. And in the end I believe what we are to take from that is, if God can be mercyful, even to Cain, then He can also extend His mercy to me. I may be over simplifying, but sometimes I think its necessary.

(kriss;4655)
This is one of those writings where the words sound holy and right but its just somebody's opinion its complete speculation contrary to whats written in Gen.First thing is Cain was the offspring of Satan (the serpent) if you have an deeper understanding what Genisis says, some Hebrew language interpetation is needed .see true sin of Garden of Eden http://www.christianityboard.com/true-sin-...study-t509.htmleven the writer himself acknowledges that Cain was unrepentant and a murderer yet somehow concludes God marked him to be looked up to as a good example to us? .
I have looked at the original language and the Bible convinces me, not opinion, that the "context" is clear. "And the LORD set a mark on Cain, lest anyone finding him should kill him." Why did the LORD set a MARK on Cain according to the scripture? "Lest anyone finding him shoul kill him." I don't see how we can pull "lest anyone should finding him should kill him," from "mark" out of the sentence within the context. ..... The author was simply explaining the mercy of God, not any goodness that Cain had, certainly we can perceive that in the writing. Not one is good. All are guilty of the murder of the Son of God, for all have sinned. .......... I know we are all from the seed of Adam? God is longsuffering, and do you not know that the"the goodness of God leads you to repentance? I do not fall into Calvinism. God does not tend to lead people to repentance, He does. All can repent, if they willing. That's good news! Thanks for sharing. blessings in Christ.