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I know that many prophecy experts are teaching that the 3rd Temple will be built by the Antichrist. (Which is deeply offensive to me as a Jewish believer.) It is also is contrary to scripture making such teaching a gross heresy. Even King David was forbidden to build the 1st Temple because he was a warrior. Do you think that God would give such an honor to the Antichrist?!! Some don't go so far and only teach that the Temple will be built with the Antichrist's permission or blessing by unbelieving Jews as a result of the 7 year peace treaty, which again, is completely unsupported by scripture. Many use Daniel 9:27 as the foundation for their opinion. "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate." Daniel 9:27This verse says nothing about the building of the temple or the reinstatement of the sacrificial system. It only mentions the Antichrist's causing them to cease. Why do people make such conclusions? God knows. Especially since God's word is clear. The Messiah and only the Messiah can build the 3rd and final temple in Jerusalem.What does scripture have to say on the issue?Let's begin at the beginning.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.2 Samuel 7:13And 1 Chronicle 17:11-1 And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever. Then there is Zech 6:11-15Then take silver and gold, and make crowns, and set them upon the head of Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest; 12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD: 13 Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both. 14 And the crowns shall be to Helem, and to Tobijah, and to Jedaiah, and to Hen the son of Zephaniah, for a memorial in the temple of the LORD. 15 And they that are far off shall come and build in the temple of the LORD, and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto you. And this shall come to pass, if ye will diligently obey the voice of the LORD your God. And also Zech 1:1616 Therefore thus saith the LORD; I am returned to Jerusalem with mercies: my house shall be built in it, saith the LORD of hosts, and a line shall be stretched forth upon Jerusalem. Zechariah the prophet, Joshua (another form of the name Jesus or Yeshua) the high priest and Zerubbabel the prince are a 3 in 1 type of Christ the Prophet/Priest/King.Zerubbabel, an ancestor of Christ gathered the exiles out of Babylon and built the 2nd temple. Christ will gather his elect out of Babylon the Great and build the 3rd Temple. "In that day, saith the LORD of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the LORD, and will make thee as a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith the LORD of hosts." Haggai 2:23There is also Acts 15:16 to consider. It doesn't specifically mention the Temple but taken together with the previous verses it can be said to support my doctrine.Acts 15:16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: Of couse David never built a Temple, but he did buy the land (threshing floor) and provide the money and materials for Solomon's Temple.Acts 15:16 is from Amos 9:11 which says-"In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Then the question becomes "when" will the Temple be built, because it must be standing before the Antichrist can defile it mid-trib.Some say that a temple will be built and destroyed before the return of Christ which is not supported by scripture, in fact again, such teaching is contrary to scripture.One, no such destruction of a false temple is found in scripture, and the temple that the Antichrist defiles is called the "Temple of God" several times.Rev 11:1-21 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.So here the temple is called the "temple of God" and God signifies that it is His Temple by having John measure it, as He does elsewhere in the Bible (Ezekiel 40-47). This also shows that it is not built by unbelieving Jews.Also-2 Thes 2:4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.Again the temple is clearly called the "Temple of God".----------------------------------------------------------------------------Some are teaching that this temple will be destroyed and Christ will build "his own", but Ezekiel describes the millenniel temple, and its defilement by rebel levites in great detail in the 40-47th chapters. The defilement is found in Ezekiel 44:6-14.6 And thou shalt say to the rebellious, even to the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; O ye house of Israel, let it suffice you of all your abominations, 7 In that ye have brought into my sanctuary strangers, uncircumcised in heart, and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in my sanctuary, to pollute it, even my house, when ye offer my bread, the fat and the blood, and they have broken my covenant because of all your abominations. 8 And ye have not kept the charge of mine holy things: but ye have set keepers of my charge in my sanctuary for yourselves. 9 Thus saith the Lord GOD; No stranger, uncircumcised in heart, nor uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter into my sanctuary, of any stranger that is among the children of Israel. 10 And the Levites that are gone away far from me, when Israel went astray, which went astray away from me after their idols; they shall even bear their iniquity. 11 Yet they shall be ministers in my sanctuary, having charge at the gates of the house, and ministering to the house: they shall slay the burnt offering and the sacrifice for the people, and they shall stand before them to minister unto them. 12 Because they ministered unto them before their idols, and caused the house of Israel to fall into iniquity; therefore have I lifted up mine hand against them, saith the Lord GOD, and they shall bear their iniquity. 13 And they shall not come near unto me, to do the office of a priest unto me, nor to come near to any of my holy things, in the most holy place: but they shall bear their shame, and their abominations which they have committed. So we can know that the temple described in Ezekiel is the same one standing in Jerusalem during the tribulation.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Some have argued that the temple will be guilt next to the Dome of the Rock and use Ezekiel 42:20 for their argument.Ezekiel 42:20 He measured it by the four sides: it had a wall round about, five hundred reeds long, and five hundred broad, to make a separation between the sanctuary and the profane place.The word, translated as "profane" in the King James Bible is better translated as "common, of unsanctified". This can be found in the NKJV translation.Ezekiel 42:20 He measured it on the four sides; it had a wall all around, five hundred cubits long and five hundred wide, to separate the holy areas from the common.So this verse in no way is describing a pagan temple or mosque on the mount.Remember the Man of Sin will defile the "Holy place" and "stand where he ought not". The Holy place is the rock under the current "foul golden pimple" on the temple mount, the dome of the rock; proving that for the temple to be built, the dome must be destroyed. Neither God nor the muslims would agree to such a comprimise.Also used for this argument is Rev 11:2 2 "But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months"All of Israel's previous temples had outer courts where gentiles could come and go no further. This in no way describes a pagan temple or mosque, side by side with the Temple of God. The very notion that the Living God of Israel would share his holy mountain with a pagan temple is ludicrous.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've heard many teach that the temple must be built after or because of the Antichrist's peace deal, because how else can Israel do it with the dome of the rock and her enemies all around? I say by God's own hand will Israel build the temple.The answer lies in the war of Ezekiel 38. With Gog and his muslim horde so soundly defeated, Israel's enemies will finally have had enough. What about Al Aksa and the dome of the rock? The war of Gog Magog is culminated by a great earthquake in Israel, with "every wall falling to the ground".Ezekiel 38:18-2018 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground Perhaps this is God's way of cleansing the temple mount.With Islam so defeated and the mount cleared by God's own hand with an earthquake, the Messiah can build the Temple with the help of gentile christians from all over the world.How often have I heard the shameful phrase "the Jews will build their Temple". The Temple will be Messiah's Temple. If you are a Gentile Christian it is your Temple too. Messiah Yahshua will rule and reign in that temple. So why say "their" temple?But you may ask doesn't this mean that Christ will be on earth to build the temple pre-trib? We have been taught the Christ won't be on earth until after the great tribulation!"Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh." Matthew 24:44So I say, if what you believe is contrary to scripture, change what you believe, for you can't change God's word.Check out the following link for the story of a failed attempt to rebuild the temple, an attempt that God powerfully stopped.[url="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1184766044619&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter]http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid...ticle%2FPrinter[/url]
 

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Well I do tend to think Antichrist will built the temple but my reasons are differnt I do not think it is a temple of God it will be an abimination to God it is a fake just as the Antichrist will be. It may even include the dome of the Rock or muslims will willingly give the Mt to himas antichrist will set up a one world religion saying he the expected messiah of all religions. I'll tell you how I understand this and you can tell me what you thinkThe jews are under a slumber during this time of the gentileIt is my understanding of scripture that the first part of the Bible was about Jews the middle or now is about the gentiles (christain) and the End is about bringing christian and Jew the two branches (sticks) back to be one.It is my believe that history and scripture bare out that the 10 northern tribes the remeant went across the Caucas Mt into scotland and married into the royal familes and over time spread to Brittan and across Europe and eventually to the U.S. that in prophecy God refers to Judah as representive of the Jews and Ephriam as represenitive of Christains and the whole house of Israel represenitive of the combined Jews and Christains togetherEze 37:16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and [for] all the house of Israel his companions: Eze 37:17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. Eze 37:19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which [is] in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, [even] with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand. This is the meaning of these versesNow back to the Temple I believe many Jews and Christains will believe Antichrist to be christ To help his delusion he will build of false temple to convince Jew and christain that he is christ.Then in mid week he will when he finishes this temple and steps in the holy of holies and declares himself God it is this act that wakes the Jews from their slumber it is the Jews who realize that this is not the messiah/christ and starts the big rebellion against antchrist thats my general understandingThe next true temple will not be built until the true Christ returns
 

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I dont think there is any scripture stating a 3rd temple will be built. I dont think satan needs a building to desecrate The temple. It could be the prayer wall or something else.If satan is going to desecrate something it will be Christianity, maybe by persicuting Christians he will be desecrating the temple. What say u
 

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Criss and crooner,The word of God is plain on this subject. The Temple that the AC defiles is called "The Temple of God" plainly, twice in scripture. Once in Rev 11:1-2 God has John measure it showing that it is His, and clearly not a false temple.When the AC defiles the temple he stands in the "Holy Place" not the unholy place.Crooner, reread my post, it shows all of the scripture that plainly states that a 3rd, Millenniel temple will be built.If what you think or believe is contrary to scripture, change what you believe. You can't distort God's word to fit your beliefs. These things are plainly stated in scripture.Daniel
 

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Kriss, you wrote"To help his delusion he will build of false temple"Where is this in scripture? In fact it is contrary to scriptureBehold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD: 13 Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; 1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
 

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1 of 3 this is after Christs returns that this temple is built not during the tribulation.thats my point crooner is right there is no thrid temple till after Christ returns So any temple or building built will be a fake and yes crooner it could be just an alter or some building I wouldnt be surprised to see antichrist twist the word somehow to try to convince people that he is the temple so an actual temple is not nessary but there will obviously be something there
 

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1 of 3 this is after Christs returns that this temple is built not during the tribulation.thats my point crooner is right there is no thrid temple till after Christ returns So any temple or building built will be a fake and yes crooner it could be just an alter or some building I wouldnt be surprised to see antichrist twist the word somehow to try to convince people that he is the temple so an actual temple is not nessary but there will obviously be something there
Kriss and Crooner,This is completely contrary to scipture,1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.This is God's word, plainly stated, that the "Temple of God" will be standing mid trib. You can't change that. What needs to change is your doctrine. Don't rewrite scripture to fit your beliefs, change your beliefs to conform to scripture.
 

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4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.Again the temple is clearly called the "Temple of God".You can't hurdle over these verses Kriss. Something needs to change, and it's not God's word.
 

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Kriss and Crooner,This is completely contrary to scipture,1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.This is God's word, plainly stated, that the "Temple of God" will be standing mid trib. You can't change that. What needs to change is your doctrine. Don't rewrite scripture to fit your beliefs, change your beliefs to conform to scripture.
You are not getting this verse in context the subject of the chapter is the two wittness's and that time trueRevelation 11:1 "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God,"This "reed" John was given, was not for making a measurement. The reed was a "scepter"; a rod not for building something, but for destruction. The destruction is for the tearing down of the temple of God, the altar, and all of them that worship within. The reason for this destruction is because at this time the Antichrist will be sitting on the throne of God in the temple, making sacrifice to himself, and the people of the world will believe he is God.This is the time of the "abomination by the desolator", spoken of in Daniel 9:27, and at that time, Satan, the "son of perdition" will be revealed in the temple at Jerusalem, as recorded in II Thessalonians 2:2-4.II Thessalonians 2:2 "That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter, as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand."This warning by Paul the Apostle is to alert those living in our generation, that generation living here on earth in their flesh bodies just prior to Jesus second coming that another event shall happen first. If you know in your mind and expect it to happen, then the things that are going on around us at this time will not shake our faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. It is given so that we will not be taken in by Satan when he moves to take control with the authority that God shall give him for that short period of time.
 

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4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.Again the temple is clearly called the "Temple of God".You can't hurdle over these verses Kriss. Something needs to change, and it's not God's word.
And this verse I already quoted as my reason for beliveing that something will be built there I just do not see any referenance to a true Temple of God but rather some sort of false temple or alter
 

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Kriss, The verse plainly calls it "the Temple of God"Not the false Temple of GodNot the something like the temple of God.But "The Temple of God. Period.You wrote"This "reed" John was given, was not for making a measurement. The reed was a "scepter"; a rod not for building something, but for destruction. The destruction is for the tearing down of the temple of God, the altar, and all of them that worship within. The reason for this destruction is because at this time the Antichrist will be sitting on the throne of God in the temple, making sacrifice to himself, and the people of the world will believe he is God."That's some fancy gymnastics, friend!. Ha Ha.High score for degree of difficulty, but low points for execution. Lol!No, rods aren't symbolic of judgment or destruction, but chastening and correction. (spare the rod and spoil the child) And measuring reeds are symbolic of God's claiming what is being measured as His own as is found in the measurement of the Millenniel Temple in Ezek.There is no verse that supports a destruction of a False Temple.
 

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Who do you think is going to build this temple?? Revelation 11:1 "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God,"A reed like a rod that means to be used like a rod that not gymnastics it what is said. Antichrist will be here why is he going to let a temple of God be built???
 

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Who will build this Temple you ask?God tells us plainly-He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.2 Samuel 7:13The Messiah and only the Messiah can and will build the Temple.Who cares what the AC thinks! God is Sovereign.The Ac will only control Jerusalem mid trib. The Temple could have been standing for many years before that time.Please carefully Re-read the original post (I've done some editing) The Millenniel Temple described in Ezekiel is also said to have been defiled by rebel levites.With all love in Messiah Yashua!DanielSince you think Christ will not come until the end of the trib, consider Christ's own words."Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh." Matthew 24:44
 

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Who will build this Temple you ask?God tells us plainly-He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.2 Samuel 7:13The Messiah and only the Messiah can and will build the Temple.Who cares what the AC thinks! God is Sovereign.The Ac will only control Jerusalem mid trib. The Temple could have been standing for many years before that time.Please carefully Re-read the original post (I've done some editing) The Millenniel Temple described in Ezekiel is also said to have been defiled by rebel levites.With all love in Messiah Yashua!DanielSince you think Christ will not come until the end of the trib, consider Christ's own words."Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh." Matthew 24:44
careful here We are told the tribulation is first that Antichrist comes in the 5th/6th trump Christ not untill the 7th lets not disreguard the whole book to prove your point So if the Book tells us antichrist comes first you can not have Christ building the temple this could be one reason that many Jews and christains will be fooled into beliveing antichrist is true Christ do not fall into this trapYes Mat. 24:44 warns us, however when is the most likely time we would not expect Christ to come ?? When the world thinks he is already here.I would be willing to believe in a rebuilt temple that is to be descrated I just find no support for it But something will be there the question is what is it and who builds it.The rod is for correction thats exactly what will be happening thats the point its a time of correction to non believers and to destroy Satan
 

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Is it possable that the temple will just be breaking ground when Antichrist commits the abomination and not actully built until Christ returns ??
 

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Kriss, you wrote, "I would be willing to believe in a rebuilt temple that is to be descrated I just find no support for it But something will be there the question is what is it and who builds it."Ezek describes the millenniel temple, AND it's defilement by rebel levites.Again Scripture plainly calls it the "Temple of God" twice.
 

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And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. Kriss, 2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? 3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. 4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. This shows that Christ is not in heaven prior to opening the seals. Where was He? Wen he shows up it is as the "Lion of Judah" who prevailed to open the seals.The only place He could be, since He is not found in heaven or on or in the earth, is in transit from earth, in the 1st or 3rd heaven.This approach to the throne is also found in the book of Daniel.Where Christ approaches the throne of the ancient of days, and receives His kingdom, also not fulfilled.So where was He? On earth prevailing as the "Lion of Judah" building the Temple.Christ said He will come as a theif in the night. Does a thief in the night come blowing trumpets, with a huge army? No. He sneeks in unawares when you are sleeping and you wake up with a knife to your throat!Again, Christ will come when you think not, and since you think that will be at the end of the trib............?
 

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13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. Matt 24:30, 26:64 Mark 13:26 14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.This was not fulfilled at the ascension. Also consider-Rev 12:55 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.The woman is not Mary, and this is not the ascension as the "woman" will flee into the wilderness mid trib.
 

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Who will build this Temple you ask?God tells us plainly-He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.2 Samuel 7:13The Messiah and only the Messiah can and will build the Temple.Who cares what the AC thinks! God is Sovereign.The Ac will only control Jerusalem mid trib. The Temple could have been standing for many years before that time.Please carefully Re-read the original post (I've done some editing) The Millenniel Temple described in Ezekiel is also said to have been defiled by rebel levites.With all love in Messiah Yashua!DanielSince you think Christ will not come until the end of the trib, consider Christ's own words."Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh." Matthew 24:44
Dear Daniel,I concur with you. Speaking as one who is also of Hebrew descent and has some personal knowledge on this subject, I can say that while there may be other false temples built by the AC, this in no way prohibits the Messiah from building his true temple in Jerusalem! His temple is to be built by his decree and my witness is that no unhallowed hand ever can or ever will stop this work at the appointed time of construction. This holy temple of the Most High can and must and shall be built at the appointed place. It will be built primarily by the tribe of Judah. Others may assist in it's construction to some degree. It will be a beautiful edifice of which all Israel will give honor. I so witness from personal experience that substantial preparations for this house have been made. It is also my observation that perhaps one of the greatest lessons for most people to yet learn is that of having the patience to "wait upon the Lord" The Messiah's timetable does not necessarily meet ours.Just as in the days of ancient Israel as the multitude stood against the waters of the Red sea, not knowing the power of the Almighty that would momentarily provide a means for their escape, so shall it be in these last days. Yahweh is a God of miracles. He is the same yesterday, today and forever. Anyone who is a keen observer of modern Israel must in all honesty admit that therein is a mighty people of incredible resolve and determination against formidable odds. These present tribulations are but a foreshadow of what will yet be faced. They will yet be tested to the very limit, but at the appointed time the Messiah will stand upon a certain mount and will pugt an end to the intended holocaust on his mighty terms. The remnant that remain will then upon seeing him inquire regarding the wounds in his hands and feet and then recognize him as the MESSIAH. This will then be one of the most glorious days in the Modern history of Israel!As it was told to the children of Israel in Exodus 14:13 "And Moses said unto the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the Lord, which he shall show unto you to day: for the Egyptians whom ye have seen to day , ye shall see them no more forever. The Lord shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace.", so shall it be at that great day that shall yet come. Modern Israel shall likewise see "the salvation of the Lord" when his mighty power shall put an end to all those who oppose and deem to destroy modern Israel!Let the mockers mock and let the doubting Thomas's doubt. For I have mighty confidence and faith in the Holy One of Israel and his decrees.