Who will build the 3rd Temple?

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helloI would like to give you all my thoughts on the subject, these are only some of the things I think about and in NO way am I pretending I have any of the answers. These are just my thought.I believe the rock of the dome will be a part of end time prophesies. It is probably what is referred to in Rev 11:2 Rev 11:2"But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months" I believe it is possible that the Jewish people will rebuild the temple. I have read that they are ready and are only waiting to find Prof of the exact location of the templeHaving said that, I believe there is only one true temple and that is inside all true believers. We are the temple of God and he dwells in us. Because of that fact, I find it hard to believe, that a temple built by man can be defiled. after all God himself rent in two the Vail of the temple Matt 27 51And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; For this reason I don't think that Rome was able to defile this temple. The presents of God was no longer in a house built by man, but now the presents of God is within all believers.Because of that the abomination that causes desolation can not be because of the temple being defiled, this is a building built by manHere is where I leave the thinking of most, please again just my thought and in no way I am saying this is what is going to happen. I Just think it is possibleIf the Jewish people rebuild the temple and then start to sacrifice( kill animals for the forgiveness of sin) This will be the Abomination that causes desolationTo tell God that his sacrifice was not sufficient, To start killing again after God paid the ultimate price. I believe this will be the Abomination that causes desolation, because of this action God will allow the desolator to come and at that time Satan will be thrown to the earthHe will come as Messiah and all but true Christan's will follow him, Jews and Moslem's will follow him, but after three and one half years he will say that he is Mohammad or Allah and the Jews will Know that they were deceived, but 2/3 of the world, All those who whorship allah will rejoice and this is how he will get such a large army to fight the Christan's and Jews. Because they will believe he is their Messiah they will be happy to go to war for him, Especially against us Jews and Christan's
 

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1 of 3 all the seals and trumps are the lead into and the tribulation it is what will be happing CHRIST DOES NOT RETUN UNTIL THE 7TH thats the events of the tribulation they are our time line to what events are taking place in what in the Great tribulation if you do not understand the chain and orderof events guess theres not much more i can say except you need to understand the trumps are in order and 5&6 always comes before 7
 

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Kriss,Christ comes when you think not.John, Scripture plainly declares that Ezekiels Milleniel Temple will be built, and Christ will build and reign and rule in it. The Sacrificial system will also be reeinstated (again per Ezekiel) not for the forginveness of sin, by as before, as a picture of Christ's sacrifice.Study the last chapters of Ezekiel for this.Job, The Temple dimensions described in Ezekiel are far too large for the temple mount to be shared, and the idea that the Living God would share His holy mountain with a pagan mosque is ridiculous. The defilement of the Millenniel Temple is described in Ezekiel.And again the Temple in Rev and 2 Thes is plainly called the "Temple of God" built over the "holy place" which is currently under the Golden Pimple of the Rock. It must be destroyed. Messiah and only Messiah can build this Temple.
 

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Kriss,Christ comes when you think not.John, Scripture plainly declares that Ezekiels Milleniel Temple will be built, and Christ will build and reign and rule in it. The Sacrificial system will also be reeinstated (again per Ezekiel) not for the forginveness of sin, by as before, as a picture of Christ's sacrifice.Study the last chapters of Ezekiel for this.Job, The Temple dimensions described in Ezekiel are far too large for the temple mount to be shared, and the idea that the Living God would share His holy mountain with a pagan mosque is ridiculous. The defilement of the Millenniel Temple is described in Ezekiel.And again the Temple in Rev and 2 Thes is plainly called the "Temple of God" built over the "holy place" which is currently under the Golden Pimple of the Rock. It must be destroyed. Messiah and only Messiah can build this Temple.
Christ needs no literal temple to reign His kingdom. Christ clearly refers to the temple as His body. (John 2:19-21) As for our body, it belongs to Him...as we are not of our own... (I Corinthians 6:19) The temple is Christ. Of God is the believers that follow Christ. The Temple of God is where every believers of Him will dwell on where Christ reigns. JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
 

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Superjag,Then why are there so many scriptures that say a millenniel temple will be built? and that Christ will rule and reign in it?You can't get around these scripturesBehold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD: 13 Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.
 

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Kriss,Christ comes when you think not.John, Scripture plainly declares that Ezekiels Milleniel Temple will be built, and Christ will build and reign and rule in it. The Sacrificial system will also be reeinstated (again per Ezekiel) not for the forginveness of sin, by as before, as a picture of Christ's sacrifice.Study the last chapters of Ezekiel for this.Job, The Temple dimensions described in Ezekiel are far too large for the temple mount to be shared, and the idea that the Living God would share His holy mountain with a pagan mosque is ridiculous. The defilement of the Millenniel Temple is described in Ezekiel.And again the Temple in Rev and 2 Thes is plainly called the "Temple of God" built over the "holy place" which is currently under the Golden Pimple of the Rock. It must be destroyed. Messiah and only Messiah can build this Temple.
Johns verse doesnt exactly say this we have been through that and yes I agree the sacraficial system will be reinstated but these will be done by Antichrist before Christ returns I have much respect for your being a Messianic Jew butyou must understand that New Testament was not your first teaching and maybe you do not as yet have a complete enough understaning of Gods over all plan to be so hard headed about what it says. You must get the fact that Antichrist (Satan) is the great imposter he is a copy cat he will be doing all things prophisiesed that Christ will do but they are poor imatation. The problem is he comes first so if you do not get this fixed in your mind you will believe the fake is the real. I would not be arguing the temple except for the fact that the true Messiah DOES NOT RETURN UNTILL AFTER THE FAKE THIS IS A FACT AND IT IS BIBLICAL AND CAN NOT BE CHANGED OR COMPRIMISED TO SOOT YOUR IDEASSo my question has always been how can the Messiah build a temple for antichrist to defile when Antichrist comes before Christ. When you have an answer for that question without making me disreguard the entire Bible to make it fit I would love to hear what you have to say
 

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Here's yet another verse that says a Temple will be built (I missed one!)Zech 116 Therefore thus saith the LORD; I am returned to Jerusalem with mercies: my house shall be built in it, saith the LORD of hosts, and a line shall be stretched forth upon Jerusalem.
 

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Earthquake Damages Temple Mount and Shechem by Ezra HaLevi(IsraelNN.com) An earthquake shook Israel at 12:37 PM Friday. The only damage reported in Israel was on the Temple Mount and near Shechem (Nablus).The earthquake measured 5.3 on the Richter scale; its epicenter was located in northeastern Lebanon. Earlier last week an earthquake measuring 4.1 was felt in northern Israel, also originating from Lebanon, near its northern city of Tyre.A large hole opened up on the Temple Mount during Friday's earthquake (click here for pictures), which was soon covered by officials from the Wakf Islamic Authority that administers the mosques built atop Judaism’s holiest site. The only other reported damage in the Holy Land was incurred between Palestinian Authority-controlled Shechem (Nablus) and Jenin, where an old home collapsed, blocking the main road to the village of Khufin. The village is not far from the site of the Biblical Joseph’s Tomb, which was set ablaze by Muslim vandals last week.At least five people were injured and two homes were destroyed in southern Lebanon as a result of Friday’s quake.Wakf Officials Blame IsraelWakf officials tried to blame Israel for the 6-foot by 5-foot hole, which is about three feet deep, claiming it was caused by Israel, which it accuses of tunneling beneath the Temple Mount. They demanded an end to all Israeli excavations in the area.Though several excavation projects are taking place around the Western Wall Plaza, none of them entail tunneling past the wall itself and beneath the mount. The Wakf’s official position is that there was never a Jewish Temple on the Temple Mount and has gone to great efforts to erase archaeological evidence of Judaism’s historical ties to the site.Western Wall Rabbi Shmuel Rabinowitz issued a statement rejecting the Muslim claims. "These are mendacious reports without a grain of truth," he said, adding that work in the Temple Mount compound would be contrary to Jewish law. “Such claims are a desecration and cause hatred and incitement for no reason whatsoever,” Rabbi Rabinowitz said. He stressed that work on the Rambam (Mughrabi) Gate ramp to the Temple Mount is vital for the safety of those who visit the Western Wall and called on the authorities to finish the work speedily.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Praise Yahweh! This is a powerful sign that He will destroy the al aska mosque by His own hand and prepare the mount for His Temple!Hallejuiah!!!!!!!!!!!- Daniel
 

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Just building a temple is a desolation to Jesus. Come on bring back animal sacrifice and mock Jesus even more is desolation in itself.
 

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I just dont know how you can desolate a temple that God is no longer apart of. The earthly temple cant be desicrated its a dead building . (maybe symbolicly)I think we could all be off base!!!
 

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Just building a temple is a desolation to Jesus. Come on bring back animal sacrifice and mock Jesus even more is desolation in itself.
Tell it to Ezekiel! God said thru Ezekiel and in 4 other places that Messiah will build a temple, that the glory of God will return to it, and that the sacrifices will resume.God cannot lie, and all will be fulfilled.
 

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Could that be a conditional prophasy?Jesus is the last sacrifice!!
No. 4 times it is clearly stated. The messiah will build the temple and rule and reign in it.
 

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FOR THE umteenth time your statement is true but Antichrist comes before Messiah and therefore there has to be something there for antichrist to defilebut it cant be the Messiahs Temple as it will not be built until he returns (7th trump)so what will be there?
 

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No. 4 times it is clearly stated. The messiah will build the temple and rule and reign in it.
Where do you get this stuff? Kriss wrote
but it cant be the Messiahs Temple as it will not be built until he returns (7th trump)so what will be there?
Shes right no way around it. AC has to come before the Messiah whats there to defile if he doesn't. Its true the temple will be built I agree with that part.
 

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On October 13, 2004, the Sanhedrin Council of the Jewish nation was reconstituted for the first time in 1,600 years. The ceremony took place in the Israeli town of Tiberias, located on the western shore of the Sea of Galilee. This was the site of the council’s last meeting in the year 425 AD.This incredible development, largely ignored by the press, appears to be one more step toward the construction of a Jewish temple in Jerusalem.The Biblical BasisThe concept of a Jewish tribunal originated with Jethro, the father-in-law of Moses. He advised his son-in-law to choose a group of elderly men to help him judge the people (Exodus 18: 17-26). The Sanhedrin was officially founded when God ordered Moses to choose 70 men from among the elders of Israel and bring them before the Tabernacle (the precursor of the Temple) where they would receive the anointing of the Spirit to judge the children of Israel (Numbers 11:16-17). This tribunal came to be known as the Sanhedrin, derived from the Greek word, sunedrion, which literally means, “sitting together.”The Sanhedrin consisted of 71 members (Moses plus the 70 judges). It served as both the supreme court and legislative body in all matters of Torah law. After the death of Moses, he was succeeded by the leading sage on the council who was given the title, Rosh HaYeshiva, meaning “Head of the Sitting.” Later, he was simply referred to as “the President” (Nisi).Every member of the Sanhedrin had to be distinguished in Torah knowledge and had to be characterized by wisdom, humility, fear of God, indifference to monetary gain, love of truth, and love of fellow man. Exodus 18:21 exhorts: “You shall select out of all the people, able men who fear God, men of truth, those who hate dishonest gain, and you shall place these over [the people].” Likewise, Deuteronomy 1:13 commands that “wise and discerning and experienced men” be selected.Growth and DevelopmentThe Sanhedrin started growing greatly in its power and influence during the Babylonian captivity. By the time of Jesus, when the Jews were back in their homeland, the council was serving effectively as the nations supreme court of justice. In approximately 7 AD the Romans abolished the power of the Sanhedrin to carry out the death penalty, fulfilling a prophecy in Genesis 49:10 that stated the Messiah would not come until “the scepter departs from Judah.” Thus, when the Sanhedrin decided that Jesus deserved the death penalty, they had to send Him to the Roman governor, Pontius Pilate, in order to get the verdict carried out (Matthew 27:1-2).When Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD, the Jews who survived were scattered. The Jewish Torah sages reconvened at Tiberias where the Sanhedrin Council continued to meet until 425 AD.The Process for Re-establishmentIn the Middle Ages, the greatest of all Torah sages, Maimonides (also known as “Rambam”) wrote a summary of all the steps that would be necessary to reconstitute the Sanhedrin. Those involved in reviving the Sanhedrin today have been following the prescription of Maimonides. One of the leaders of the initiative is Rabbi Yeshai Ba’avad. According to the Israel National News, he said that the 71 rabbis “from across the spectrum received a special ordination, in accordance with Maimonides’ rulings.” He further added, “The goal is to have one rabbinic body in Jerusalem that will convene monthly and issue rulings on central issues. This is the need of the generation and of the hour.”Another of the council’s 71 members, Rabbi Meir Halevi, affirmed over Israel National Radio that the group is following the process precisely as outlined by Maimonides in the Mishna Torah.The Current Movers and ShakersThe two key movers behind the re-establishment of the Sanhedrin are Rabbi Ovadiah Josef and Rabbi Josef Elyashiv. The former is a chief rabbi of the Shephardic Jews (Mediterranean descent) and the latter a chief rabbi of the Ashkenazi Jews (European descent). Rabbi Josef Elyashir is considered to be a spiritual heir of Moses, and thus he was the one who performed the special ordination of the 70 rabbis selected to serve on the new Sanhedrin. He is also the prime candidate to serve as high priest should the temple be rebuilt and animal sacrifices be re-instituted.The founding rabbis consider the new Sanhedrin to be “a work-in-progress.” Rabbi Halevi told the press: “The first members [of the Sanhedrin] requested that their names not be published so as to allow it to grow without public criticism of individuals. We want to give it time to develop and strengthen.” He added that each of the current members had agreed to be a conditional member until more knowledgeable rabbis decide to enter the ranks and take their place.First ActionSignificantly, one of the first actions taken by the new Sanhedrin was an attempt to ascend the Temple Mount in Jerusalem where they hoped to pray and investigate clues pertaining to the location of the Second Temple, the one destroyed by the Romans.The attempt was made on December 6, 2004, after they had received approval from the Israeli police. They participated in ritual baths that morning to prepare themselves to walk on holy ground, but when they arrived at the entrance to the Temple Mount, they were told that they could enter only in groups of ten. So, the effort was postponed.Preparing an AgendaAt their next meeting in January 2005, they discussed technical and procedural issues for their agenda. One member, Rabbi Chaim Richman of Jerusalem, stated that many “cardinal issues” were being placed on the council’s agenda, including moral issues like abortion and agunot (estranged women whose husbands refuse to give them a divorce). Other issues to be considered in the future included the following:Determining the council’s decision-making procedures. Renewing the annual Passover sacrifice. Determining the precise length of the biblical cubit. Determining the precise location of the Temple. Ruling on the legality of the proposed disengagement from Gaza and Samaria. Considering the status of “lost” Jewish tribes. Unifying Shephardic and Ashkenazi religious practices. Restoring the Davidic monarchy. The Initial FocusAt its February meeting, the Sanhedrin heard expert testimony regarding the location of the Temple. The two main opinions discussed were that the Temple stood either on the spot currently occupied by the Dome of the Rock (a Muslim shrine) or just to the north of that spot, in alignment with the Eastern Gate. No archeological excavations have ever been carried out on the Temple Mount, so the exact location of the Temple is a matter of debate. Complicating the matter is the fact that the Muslims have been systematically destroying all historical evidence they find of a Jewish Temple. The Sanhedrin decided to assign the task to a subcommittee that will examine the various opinions and then report back to the full council.The First DeclarationIn March, the Sanhedrin issued its first major declaration in which it condemned the Israeli government’s announced intention to withdraw from Gaza and most of Samaria. The declaration read as follows:The disengagement plan, involving the uprooting of Jewish communities in Gaza and Samaria and the abandonment of these areas to a foreign entity, is in direct contradiction to the Torah of Israel, and is null and void. Future governments of Israel will have to reconquer the areas in question.The Prophetic SignificanceWith regard to the prophetic significance of these events, I see the revival of the Sanhedrin as one more step toward the rebuilding of a Jewish Temple. The Bible clearly states that another Temple will be built before the Lord’s Second Coming occurs. The Old Testament prophet Daniel referred to it in Daniel 9:27. Jesus made mention of it in Matthew 24:15. The apostle Paul wrote about it in 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4. And the apostle John mentioned it in Revelation 11:1.Over the past 20 years a variety of Orthodox Jewish groups have simultaneously emerged in Israel that are focused on the rebuilding of the Temple. One devotes its efforts to the architectural plans, another to the training of priests, a third to the development of incenses, and yet another to the breeding of a perfect red heifer.One of the most publicized groups has been The Temple Institute headed up by Rabbi Israel Ariel. This group has focused on manufacturing the priestly clothes and implements, like the showbread table, incense pots, and the golden menorah. All of these efforts have required years of on-going research and fund-raising. You can view all these items — including the breastplate of the high priest — online at www.templeinstitute.org.Another high profile group is The Temple Mount Faithful, founded and directed by Gershon Salomon. This group has cut two cornerstones for the Third Temple which they have repeat¬edly tried to take up to the Temple Mount. This past year they put the stones on a truck and drove them around the walls of the Old City. They also presented to the public a scale model of what the new temple will look like.The Need for a CatalystThe mystery is what event will bring all these efforts together to launch the building of a Third Temple. Right now there is no interest at all among the general public in Israel concerning the construction of a Temple. In fact, the overwhelming majority of Israelis are strongly opposed to any effort to rebuild the Temple because they know it would spark a war with the Muslim world. You have to understand that the average Israeli is religiously non-observant. Many are agnostics or atheists who are very secu¬lar and who hold the Orthodox Jews in contempt. Their only interest in a Temple is to keep the Orthodox (who constitute about 13% of the population) from pursuing their dream of a Temple. Something dramatic will have to occur to change this attitude. What will it be?My best guess at the moment is that it will be the discovery of the Ark of the Covenant. I think such a discovery would ignite a renewed interest in the Hebrew Scriptures. I also believe it could motivate a surge of Jewish nationalism and pride.We are living in exciting times when we can witness the fulfillment of Bible prophecy first hand. And what is more exciting is the realization that the fulfillment of those prophecies point to the soon return of our Messiah.Maranatha!--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Resources:1) Arutz Sheva: www.israelnationalnews.com.2) The Temple Mount Institute: www.templeinstitute.org.3) The Temple Mount Faithful: www.templemountfaithful.org.4) World Net Daily: www.wnd.com.5) The Free Republic Network: www.freerepublic.com.6) Only in Israel: www.aish.com.7) Tradition in Action: www.traditioninaction.org.Go to any of these sites and type the word, Sanhedrin, into the site’s search engine.