ANTI-CATHOLICISM IN THE MEDIA

mjrhealth · Nov 24, 2017

@Ally.s.j Sorry should have warned you. I think you have just discovered Saul, a man who if you oppose will try kill you dead, just like Saul, a man so blinded by his religion, he doesnt know he is persecuting Jesus. The only thing that will change this man like Saul, is an encounter with Jesus. So know you know, no one can reach this man, a blind man cannot know teh light if he is walking in teh darkness,

Col 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

BreadOfLife · Nov 24, 2017

mjrhealth said:
See BOL you have. to put it into context for you.

1Sa_8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.
1Sa_10:19 And ye have this day rejected your God, who himself saved you out of all your adversities and your tribulations; and ye have said unto him, Nay, but set a king over us. Now therefore present yourselves before the LORD by your tribes, and by your thousands.

and so you see Jesus even reiterated this

Mar 10:42 But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them.
Mar 10:43 But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:
so you see BOL you have rejected Christ, for you have your pope and all your priests and deacons ruling and reigning over you and just like it says

1Sa 8:10 And Samuel told all the words of the LORD unto the people that asked of him a king.
1Sa 8:11 And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots.
1Sa 8:12 And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties; and will set them to ear his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots.
1Sa 8:13 And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers.
1Sa 8:14 And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards, even the best of them, and give them to his servants.
1Sa 8:15 And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants.
1Sa 8:16 And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work.
1Sa 8:17 He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants.
1Sa 8:18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day.
1Sa 8:19 Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us;
1Sa 8:20 That we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles.

and so you are a slave to your religion, we who are in Christ have but one Head who rules and reings over us, the one who Is lorld of lOrds and King of Kings,'

Jesus the Christ, who God gave to rule and Reign over us.

Col_1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

You replaced Him with your pope,

No we didn't.
That's just another anti-Catholic lie that you've been spoonfed. Unfortunately, you've swallowed the lied and it festers inside of you.

That's the problem with those who don't know the Gospel.
You are easily deceived . . .

2 Corinthians 11:3
But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.

Matthew 24:4
And Jesus answered and said to them, "See to it that no one misleads you.

Ephesians 5:6
Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.

Galatians 6:7
Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.

BreadOfLife · Nov 24, 2017

mjrhealth said:
@Ally.s.j Sorry should have warned you. I think you have just discovered Saul, a man who if you oppose will try kill you dead, just like Saul, a man so blinded by his religion, he doesnt know he is persecuting Jesus. The only thing that will change this man like Saul, is an encounter with Jesus. So know you know, no one can reach this man, a blind man cannot know teh light if he is walking in teh darkness,

Col 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

Really?
Did they teach you that over at your online cult aggressivechristianity.net?

Tell me - which "General" in that cult taught you this?

mjrhealth · Nov 24, 2017

BreadOfLife said:
No we didn't.
That's just another anti-Catholic lie that you've been spoonfed. Unfortunately, you've swallowed the lied and it festers inside of you.

That's the problem with those who don't know the Gospel.
You are easily deceived . . .

2 Corinthians 11:3
But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.

Matthew 24:4
And Jesus answered and said to them, "See to it that no one misleads you.

Ephesians 5:6
Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.

Galatians 6:7
Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.

Like I said before you should read your own posts, see the angrier you get the bigger the words and the more colours you add screaming to make yourself heard above God and Jesus , in whom is the truth, I do hope you find Jesus soon, because we tire of you killing Gods people.

mjrhealth · Nov 24, 2017

BreadOfLife said:
Really?
Did they teach you that over at your online cult aggressivechristianity.net?

Tell me - which "General" in that cult taught you this?

Still exposing your hatred for the truth, see anger doesnt come from God you know who the liar and deceiver is.

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

mjrhealth · Nov 24, 2017

Maybe we should start a topic about the anti Christ on christain forums

BreadOfLife · Nov 24, 2017

mjrhealth said:
Still exposing your hatred for the truth, see anger doesnt come from God you know who the liar and deceiver is.

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

I don't have any "hatred" for cults like yours over at aggressivechristianity.net. On the contrary - I pray for those of you who are deceived - and I urge all of those who are strong enough in their faith to visit this sick site so that they can see the insanity for themselves . . .

BreadOfLife · Nov 24, 2017

mjrhealth said:
Like I said before you should read your own posts, see the angrier you get the bigger the words and the more colours you add screaming to make yourself heard above God and Jesus , in whom is the truth, I do hope you find Jesus soon, because we tire of you killing Gods people.

Ummmmm,apparently you're ignorant of the English language.
"Screaming" in the written form requires exclamation points (!).

mjrhealth · Nov 24, 2017

BreadOfLife said:
I don't have any "hatred" for cults like yours over at aggressivechristianity.net. On the contrary - I pray for those of you who are deceived - and I urge all of those who are strong enough in their faith to visit this sick site so that they can see the insanity for themselves . . .

you just hate everyone equally we know we see it everyday, you cant even agree with catholics, still throwing daggers, I have said before, you should stay away from that site, the truth upsets you.

BreadOfLife said:
Ummmmm,apparently you're ignorant of the English language.
"Screaming" in the written form requires exclamation points (!).

See all you can do, make a mockery of everyone who stands in opposition to you, denigrate, all you can do, because BOL the truth is not in you. Go show the world your hatred for teh truth for all you are doing is exposing your self.

BreadOfLife · Nov 24, 2017

mjrhealth said:
you just hate everyone equally we know we see it everyday, you cant even agree with catholics, still throwing daggers, I have said before, you should stay away from that site, the truth upsets you.

I don't "hate" anybody.
I feel sorry for people like you who are so easily-duped - but I don't hate you - even with all the lies you spew.

mjrhealth said:
See all you can do, make a mockery of everyone who stands in opposition to you, denigrate, all you can do, because BOL the truth is not in you. Go show the world your hatred for teh truth for all you are doing is exposing your self.

No - just correcting your false accusations.
Lighten up and take an aspirin. . .

mjrhealth · Nov 24, 2017

BreadOfLife said:
I don't "hate" anybody.
I feel sorry for people like you who are so easily-duped - but I don't hate you - even with all the lies you spew.

Well you see I dont feel sorry for you, you like us have a choice, you chose catholism and hate all that choose Jesus. But I do feel sorry for all that have tried to reach you.

This is a Christian forum where we come to promote Christ, yet all you do is promote catholism
we come to be lifted up, all you do is tear down
we come to Glory in Jesus and God, all you do is glory in your religion
we come to discuss teh things of God, all you do is tell us about catholism
we come for teh truth, all you do is twist it to your own end

BreadOfLife said:
No - just correcting your false accusations.
Lighten up and take an aspirin. . .

well you are on your own, what had God to do with liars, and since God cant have anything to with that which is not of Him, He certainly cannot have anything to do with mens religions for they are all built on lies, and the doctrines of men.

I wonder who your next victim will be. any one going to put there hand up.

BreadOfLife · Nov 24, 2017

mjrhealth said:
Well you see I dont feel sorry for you, you like us have a choice, you chose catholism and hate all that choose Jesus. But I do feel sorry for all that have tried to reach you.

And that's a lie.
I don't "hate" anybody - as I already told you.

I feel sorry for you . . .

mjrhealth said:
This is a Christian forum where we come to promote Christ, yet all you do is promote catholism
we come to be lifted up, all you do is tear down
we come to Glory in Jesus and God, all you do is glory in your religion
we come to discuss teh things of God, all you do is tell us about catholism
we come for teh truth, all you do is twist it to your own end

Another lie.
But, I'm not surprised because you can't seem to tell the truth in ANY of your posts.

I don't "promote" Catholicism here. I simply expose people like YOU who lie about it.
BIG difference . . .

mjrhealth said:
well you are on your own, what had God to do with liars, and since God cant have anything to with that which is not of Him, He certainly cannot have anything to do with mens religions for they are all built on lies, and the
doctrines of men.
I wonder who your next victim will be. any one going to put there hand up.

I'm never on my own because I have Christ and His Body, the Church with me (1 Cor. 12).
All YOU have is your man-made online cult, aggressivechristianity.net and their "Generals" . . .

mjrhealth · Nov 24, 2017

BreadOfLife said:
And that's a lie.
I don't "hate" anybody - as I already told you.

your posts clearly speak otherwise

BreadOfLife said:
I don't "promote" Catholicism here. I simply expose people like YOU who lie about it.
BIG difference . . .

Oh you do its all you speak of. Jesus cant save anyone apparently according to you except by the catholic church, That is your theme over and over. You are just exposing yourself.

BreadOfLife said:
I'm never on my own because I have Christ and His Body, the Church with me (1 Cor. 12).
All YOU have is your man-made online cult, aggressivechristianity.net and their "Generals" .

all men have Christ does not men they follow them, but again cant help yourself but spit out vile poison upon any that disagree with you. So many would just walk away, but you just cant let it go, have to have teh final say, get all puffed up in pride as another victim gets dragged away. I would go, but I cant stand to see another child of God destroyed by you.

Dcopymope · Nov 24, 2017

BreadOfLife said:
Jesus told His Church that if somebody rejects them - then they reject HIM and the ONE who sent Him.
Once you've rejected His Church - you've rejected Him - so it's impossible to know Him when you do that.

By rejecting "his" church, I'm assuming you mean the catholic church?

BreadOfLife said:
When you said:
"No actually, I can pray for myself just fine, I don't need a priest to do it for me."

Yes, God forbid I pray for myself, directly to the Father through the true mediator known as Jesus Christ, and not through some guy sitting in a booth blasphemously calling himself "father".

BreadOfLife said:
Excommunication is a disciplinary tool for the unruly, with the goal of bringing them back to the fold.

BreadOfLife said:
1 Cor. 5:4-5
So when you are assembled and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh so that his SPIRIT MAY BE SAVED on the day of the Lord.

Yeah, cool story, except that's not the story of the catholic church who covered up the actions of the unruly. Sure, you can bring up what the Protestants have done and how much more God awful they allegedly are all you wish, its the catholic church that is the subject of this thread.

BreadOfLife said:
We ALWAYS need to pray for those who are lost. The fact that YOU place yourself above them speaks volumes about how you've perverted the Gospel.

Shame on you . . .

So do you pray for Donald Trump? The Bible also says to pray for those in a position of authority as well. How many people really do this? I sure as hell don't, and I'm sure many others don't either. And no one "ALWAYS" prays for the lost, because I'm sure you have a life outside of your faith...........or do you?

Dcopymope · Nov 24, 2017

mjrhealth said:
Oh you do its all you speak of. Jesus cant save anyone apparently according to you except by the catholic church, That is your theme over and over. You are just exposing yourself.

I have yet to see this guy get into a discussion about much of anything else but to shove the doctrines of the Catholic church down our throats. The word made flesh apparently is such a weakling that he needs someones religious institution to do his work for him.

Ally.s.j · Nov 24, 2017

mjrhealth said:
@Ally.s.j Sorry should have warned you. I think you have just discovered Saul, a man who if you oppose will try kill you dead, just like Saul, a man so blinded by his religion, he doesnt know he is persecuting Jesus. The only thing that will change this man like Saul, is an encounter with Jesus. So know you know, no one can reach this man, a blind man cannot know teh light if he is walking in teh darkness,

Col 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

You are implying this man has never had an encounter with Jesus. You dont know that. but you are sitting there talking as if you do. Did it not cross your mind that you are not representing Jesus either by trying to prove you are right and he is wrong. Jesus never asked you to force you opinions right or wrong down other peoples throats and ridicule them because they are not, in your opinion in the same place as you. So you witness of Christ is no better than anyone elses really. Your hurting people here to. I dont see the humility coming from you that you are quoting to them.

Ally.s.j · Nov 24, 2017

BreadOfLife said:
Apparently, you're new here, so I will repeat what I have said dozens of times.

I am here to expose the lies and fairy tales that Anti-Catholics spread about the Catholic Church.
If I sound "sarcastic" - it is only for the purpose of exposing these lies so that others who are sincerely seeking the truth won't be seduced by this filth.

I have NO problem with Protestants who simply "disagree" with the Church. 9 of my 12 siblings are Protestant and I love them dearly.
It's only with those who spread these filthy lies - then sanctimoniously condemn me for being "rude".

Bottom line:
Don't lie and you won't be exposed.
God HATES lies and condemns liars.

I'm the least of your worries . . .

Jesus never told you to do that. So how are you thinking your doing something God wants? Sorry your just fighting for you think your knowleadge is superior to theres and you want to prove them all wrong and you right. No where are you called to do this. You are not representing Christ in the middle of this any better than any other. None of you were called to this. You are called to love. But I dont see love comeing from many here. God sent Jesus for liars and they condem them selves they dont need you. And you dont need then to tell whos right and wrong. You dont agree so why are you even talking to them. None of this is from Christ. You are called to love one and other. Nothing else. You dont like what they are doing. and you have a need that is not of God to defend what you believe is correct because someone told you. It wasnt God that told any of you in here to fight and bicker and back bite that is all from satans camp and hes leading you all like donkeys. Ripping each other apart with I am right and better than you. Rediculas.

BreadOfLife · Nov 24, 2017

Dcopymope said:
By rejecting "his" church, I'm assuming you mean the catholic church?
How many Churches did Jesus build.

By MY count and by Scripture - He only built ONE.
He prayed for the unity of that Church at the Last supper - that it remain ONE as He and the Father are ONE.

Now - was it the Baptist church?
The Lutheran church?
The Presbyterian church?
The Methodist church?
The Pentecostal church?
Any one of the Calvinist churches?
Any one of the Reformed Evangelical?

The ONLY Church that goes back that far is the Catholic Church - and it was called "The Catholic Church" at the end of the 1st century. Tthere was only ONE Church that splintered of into tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering Protestant sects after the 15th century.

Dcopymope said:
Yes, God forbid I pray for myself, directly to the Father through the true mediator known as Jesus Christ, and not through some guy sitting in a booth blasphemously calling himself "father".

WHO said you needed a priest to pray for you?? Certainly not me and certainly not the Church. That's just anti-Catholic drivel. I was merely pointing to your hypocrisy regarding intercessory prayer, which is not only endorsed by Scripture - but commanded.

As for referring to priests as "Father" - I'm not really sure what you have a problem with that.
- Paul referred to Himself as Timothy's spiritual "Father" (1 Tim. 1:2).
- Jesus said, “Your "Father" Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.” (John 8:56).
- St. Stephen refers to "our "Father" Abraham," (Acts 7:2).
- St. Paul speaks of "our "Father" Isaac” (Romans 9:10).
- Paul calls himself as the spiritual "Father" in Christ to the Corinthians (1 Cor. 4:14–15).

Jesus never forbade calling men "Father". He forbade them from calling men "Father" - ABOVE their Father in Heaven.
He also didn't forbid them from calling men "Teacher":
"For this I was appointed a preacher and apostle . . . a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth" (1 Tim. 2:7).
"For this gospel I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher" (2 Tim. 1:11).
"God has appointed in the church first Apostles, second prophets, third Teachers" (1 Cor. 12:28).

He forbade them from calling men "Teacher" - ABOVE their Teacher in Heaven.
Do your homework . . .

Dcopymope said:
Yeah, cool story, except that's not the story of the catholic church who covered up the actions of the unruly. Sure, you can bring up what the Protestants have done and how much more God awful they allegedly are all you wish, its the catholic church that is the subject of this thread.

The "Church" didn't cover up anything.
Men within the Church did.

There have ALWAYS been sinners in the Church and there ALWAYS will be.
The Church is NOT a museum of perfect people - it's a hospital for sinners.

And, the only reason you don't want to hear about the sins of Protestant sects is because you know there is PLENTY of blame to go around.

Dcopymope said:
So do you pray for Donald Trump? The Bible also says to pray for those in a position of authority as well. How many people really do this? I sure as hell don't, and I'm sure many others don't either. And no one "ALWAYS" prays for the lost, because I'm sure you have a life outside of your faith...........or do you?

I ABSOLUTELY pray for our president - and I pray for people that YOU would arrogantly deem as "unworthy".
They have eternal souls just like YOU do and need prayer as well.

Shame on you for your arrogance.

blessedhope · Nov 24, 2017

ALLJ>> Bad News!

Dcopymope · Nov 24, 2017

Ally.s.j said:
Jesus never told you to do that. So how are you thinking your doing something God wants? Sorry your just fighting for you think your knowleadge is superior to theres and you want to prove them all wrong and you right. No where are you called to do this. You are not representing Christ in the middle of this any better than any other. None of you were called to this. You are called to love. But I dont see love comeing from many here. God sent Jesus for liars and they condem them selves they dont need you. And you dont need then to tell whos right and wrong. You dont agree so why are you even talking to them. None of this is from Christ. You are called to love one and other. Nothing else. You dont like what they are doing. and you have a need that is not of God to defend what you believe is correct because someone told you. It wasnt God that told any of you in here to fight and bicker and back bite that is all from satans camp and hes leading you all like donkeys. Ripping each other apart with I am right and better than you. Rediculas.

You do realize this is the debate section of the forum right? What do you think is the point of a debate, to just agree to disagree and "love each other"? You don't really believe that some chump coming into a Christian forum lambasting others for being as such and not following the catholic way wouldn't rub people the wrong way do you?

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