"I never knew you: depart from me, you that work inquity."

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VictoryinJesus

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One of the most debatable verses in the word of God: I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Matthew 7:22-24 KJV
[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? [23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. [24] Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

"I never knew you"
"Knew" As in an intimate way. Genesis 4:1 "And Adam knew Eve..." in an intimate way. I never knew you meaning: My Spirit is not there. My Spirit does not inhabit you. My Spirit has not entered into you. You have not been born of God.

We read immediately after the Lords debated words..."Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:"

A spiritual rock: that rock being Christ.

Those spoken of in Matthew 7: 22-24 Use their works as justification. "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works"

Yet in Matthew there is another peculiar people spoken of: Matthew 25:34-40 KJV
[34] Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: [35] For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: [36] Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. [37] Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee ? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? [38] When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee ? [39] Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? [40] And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Those "in Christ" have works they know not of. Why? Because Christ worked through them. The Spirit of God worked their works; they rested "in Christ". If I can explain it this way: in a relationship of love we care for the needs of those that we love... naturally.

There is no work involved.

We just do. There is no labor, no boasting needed. That is what relationship is...being accountable to someone because you choose to be and naturally want to see to their needs. You love them. You want to see them happy and well and cared for. It is not a burden.

Then there is the others that boast in their works: obligation.
Haughtiness and pride... because you are obligated to see to the needs of another. It is work. A burden. It is work for the person doing the work to be able to say they have fulfilled an obligation, rather than an act of genuine love. It is heavy labor which makes a person defend themselves and their actions by stating "Have I not slaved for you?" Give me what I earned.

Again, consider the implication: "Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee ? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? [38] When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee ? [39] Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?"
 

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I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity
I'm not going any further, that says it all "I NEVER KNEW YOU". this have been my point from jump. get the first thing right and the rest will fall into place. I'm not going to elaborate on it to cause an argument, but every christian need to examine this verse that you posted. thank VJ.

Peace in Christ Jesus.
 
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here is no work involved.

We just do. There is no labor, no boasting needed. That is what relationship is...being accountable to someone because you choose to be and naturally want to see to their needs. You love them. You want to see them happy and well and cared for. It is not a burden.
on point.
 

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Matthew 6
1 “Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them. Otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven.
 
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Matthew 6
1 “Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them. Otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven.
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One of the most debatable verses in the word of God: I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. MMM> really>> Its very easy look at the threads that have been posted on this thread! and those words hit a BULLS EYE!>>
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
>>>>> Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth<<<<<<>> We have a ship load of them right here on this ship!Enjoy
 

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There is a thing missing in this thread: And that is, that I have yet to see anyone elaborate upon the phrase "ye that work iniquity".


Matthew 6
2 Therefore, when you do a charitable deed, do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory from men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward.

>snip<
5 “And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward.
>snip<
7 And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words.



Just a thought...

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There is a thing missing in this thread: And that is, that I have yet to see anyone elaborate upon the phrase "ye that work iniquity".

I debated on whether or not to respond to shifting the focus once again from what Christ has done to, what man can do. Hasn't it already been debated to death?

Romans 3:10 KJV
[10] As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

1 Peter 1:24 KJV
[24] For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

It is all going to be burned in the fire...until ALL GLORY is attributed to Christ and Him only.

Isaiah 26:1-3 KJV
[1] In that day shall this song be sung in the land of Judah; We have a strong city; salvation will God appoint for walls and bulwarks. [2] Open ye the gates, that the righteous nation which keepeth the truth may enter in. [3] Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee : because he trusteth in thee.

Hebrews 7:14-16 KJV
[14] For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood. [15] And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest, [16] Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

1 John 4:6 KJV
[6] We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH...which is Christ.
 
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There is a thing missing in this thread: And that is, that I have yet to see anyone elaborate upon the phrase "ye that work iniquity".
It is the flesh that works iniquity, that makes its home in the world, and wars against the spirit.
 
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There is a thing missing in this thread: And that is, that I have yet to see anyone elaborate upon the phrase "ye that work iniquity".

Inequity is done by those who live in sin doing wicked things, being evil.

Jeremiah 31:34, for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Jesus bore the inequity when He drank the sour wine. Vinegar is the Greek word, oxos, which means sour wine.

John 19:30, When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

When God gave the law, He told Moses this,

Exodus 20:5, Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

The above is what we call "generational curses" and the children will pay the price for what their fathers have done, sin increases.

Jeremiah 29:30,31 In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge. But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.

Ezekiel 18:2, What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge?

Jesus took away the generational curse on the Cross.

Jesus took away the 1st Covenant and established the 2nd Covenant.

Hebrews 10:9, Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

Hebrews 10:17, And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
 

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It is the flesh that works iniquity, that makes its home in the world, and wars against the spirit.
And beating it with whips, and starving it to death will not bring it into submission as some suppose... We are stuck with it till death us to part.
 
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