Testing the Spirits

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Okay I'm sorry. I am very sober and vigilant. I study scripture and I also think critically of the world we live in. Combined with sound scripture and realizing that this whole world is kept in store for him I can assure you that satan and his fallen angels are prisoners here awaiting judgement. Also if you are interested in learning more about this I can help and if you are not, please be aware that the devices of this world are a snare for the death of your Spirit and finally the destruction of your mortal body. Think about it and study the text but most importantly pray that the Holy Ghost will grant you wisdom. This world is His and all that is on the earth, in the earth and the sea are His.Praise Him! This is biblically sound and easily proven through scripture I am always willing to teach. Matthew 10:16
 

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thank you for your kind offer Ronnie but you being one of our newer members will soon find out I already know scripture very well I have been a moderator/ teacher on this site for a couple of years I am glad you not knowing me that you show decernment and are cautious when you hear a new and differnt thing but I asure you that though you are free to disagree with me you can seldom prove me wrong in scripture I have been studing for 20 years and still learn new things so hopefully we can learn from each otherGod Bless
 
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I am hopeful that your walk with Jesus is profitable. Some things are revealed to individuals for their personal walk, and these things are helpful to some and not to others. My occultic study and Biblical reasoning have meshed together well enough to explain things to me in such a way that I turned from my evil and learned of His love. Praise God! And while these things may seem odd to you there really is a ton of information in the Bible and else where about this. I am a steward for the Lord, and an understanding has been given to me, mostly I think because of the hatred I had for Him. We didn't all love the devil first but I'll bet if anyone of us did, and did seriously believe in an unseen world, they looked for it as I did. Praise God! I love him so much! I know it may seem different and weird, but one book has been largely overlooked and that is Enoch's testament. I believe The Holy Ghost has chosen these very last days to reveal even more about Himself and the world. As our knowledge of the world has increased so have his revelations to his loveing subjects, and those who will not listen. Believe it or not Enoch did write down his testament and it was preserved for us in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Read Jude 1: 14-15 and try to understand that this is a direct quote from the Book of Enoch. It was an important work to the early church and it is no less important now. Behold the likes of Jude was taught this work and it was, and is, important. sorry so long.
 

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Many of us including myself have read Enoch and you will find several links to it on this site though it can not be held to same value as scripture. It certainly can further give us a clearer picture of things that were and are going to happen.
 
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Enoch was valuable scripture to the church at one time and that is obvious, also obvious is that The Holy Ghost revealed it to us in The Holy Bible, while those who put the Bible together left this book apart The Spirit of God placed the words, and the hint to seek more truths there . If I am told we have no perfect word, and God did not mean these words, or those words, then who am I to believe? The words are perfect as God intended them to be, not one word is open to interpretation. To not take the Bible as given to us and try to make it to fit our narrow views and all that comes with it, even the self righteous ways, is an absolute blasphemy of The Holy Ghost. Listen, Jesus did descend into the lower parts of the earth where hell and paradise are. Luke 23:43 makes it clear that Jesus went to paradise on the day of His death. Ephesians 4:10 makes it clear that He descended first . How then do you explain Jesus' appearance in paradise on the same day of His death? Only that paradise is underneath us and we would have to descend into the lower parts of the earth to find it. I say paradise and hell are a waiting place as does our Lord. I love you and it doesen't hurt to think about things in a new way as it can be a refreshing boost to your faith. But be aware, study your scripture and test the spirits.
 
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Let me close this thread by saying that if I were one of you who has not already looked at all the angles to do so. I am seeking Holiness and to be honest that has taken alot of sacrifice to the point that I am prepared to be content in any situation the Lord places me in. For Him I will die. I through my Spiritual eyes, and revelations from The Spirit of Truth I have came to realize that to overcome like we are expected means just that. If you hear of rumors of mind control, and poisoning, treason and grand deception even at the highest levels of information control, you can believe it, it's a fact, and you'd better turn off your televisions and pay alms with your cable dollars or you will be as a blind sheep who didn't know where they were going and followed a seduceing spirit to hell. People, Holiness requires sacrifice, and the one I mentioned is only the beginning. Seducing spirits are everywhere and what they say sounds good because it's self righteous. We all have a lifetime to pray and beg and press God for the Holy Spirit and we ain't gunna get it watching oprah or listening to bob and tom in the morning, or any other foolish,filthy distraction from hollywood will not save us. For the love of God turn yourselves from these tv screens video games and movies all forms of un-godliness. Do not be fooled you cannot serve God and your flesh ain't gunna happen.
 

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Yes. I absolutely agree that many preahcers are now preaching the sermons that will suit the ears of the hearers for their own interests and many hearers are also searching the preachers who will preach the sermons which will suit their ears for their own satisfaction. There is no truth in it.But what Paul meaned when he said in Philippians 1:15-1915 It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill. 16 The latter do so in love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. 18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached . And because of this I rejoice. Yes, and I will continue to rejoice, 19 for I know that through your prayers and the help given by the Spirit of Jesus Christ, what has happened to me will turn out for my deliverance. What do you think?
 
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Yes. I absolutely agree that many preahcers are now preaching the sermons that will suit the ears of the hearers for their own interests and many hearers are also searching the preachers who will preach the sermons which will suit their ears for their own satisfaction. There is no truth in it.But what Paul meaned when he said in Philippians 1:15-1915 It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill. 16 The latter do so in love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. 18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached . And because of this I rejoice. Yes, and I will continue to rejoice, 19 for I know that through your prayers and the help given by the Spirit of Jesus Christ, what has happened to me will turn out for my deliverance. What do you think?
I couldn't agree more, and I must add this in staying with the theme of testing the Spirits. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way. The Romans 14:13.
 
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We need to remember what we battle espically as the End draws nearerEph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
Amen, let's all become as wise as serpents in order not to be fooled by them. Matthew 10:16. I love that verse, I love them all.
 

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We need to remember what we battle espically as the End draws nearerEph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. This word principalities is the greek word Arche:1) beginning, origin2) the person or thing that commences, the first person or thing in a series, the leader3) that by which anything begins to be, the origin, the active cause4) the extremity of a thinga) of the corners of a sail5) the first place, principality, rule, magistracya) of angels and demonsSatan and his Evil spirits have been there from the beginning, he was the beginning cause of sin, he was the ruling cherub that coverthhe has many demons and fallen angels that follow after him this is who we must be on guard against alwaysNever forget God has given us power over these
 
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We need to remember what we battle espically as the End draws nearerEph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. This word principalities is the greek word Arche:1) beginning, origin2) the person or thing that commences, the first person or thing in a series, the leader3) that by which anything begins to be, the origin, the active cause4) the extremity of a thinga) of the corners of a sail5) the first place, principality, rule, magistracya) of angels and demonsSatan and his Evil spirits have been there from the beginning, he was the beginning cause of sin, he was the ruling cherub that coverthhe has many demons and fallen angels that follow after him this is who we must be on guard against alwaysNever forget God has given us power over these
Yes we must fight, and to fight we must be able to see through the enemy's tricks and tactics. We must live Holy to even be in the fight. If you are not liveing Holy you have denied the power of God and yourself the kingdom of God. Do not be fooled by the self righteous nature that is in us all. Discern what is Holy and un-holy with the gifts you have, or you may lose them. Do not be fooled, nothing happens here unless it is planned in the Spirit world first and men are agents to get things done.
 

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Thanks,Ronnie. I know that sometimes when I am on this site I feel so comforted. Other times I am reading along and I have such a strange feeling come over me. There are doctrines talked about here that are quite strange to me. I have been a Christian a long time and have been through a lot of studies, etc. but I know that there are things I haven't learned. Of couse, there are things I don't want to learn, as well. I do think since we are told to put on the "mind of Christ" that He and He alone will give us the discernment on what truths to believe and what is false teaching. We need to know our swords better. Just this morning in our worship service, our pastor was talking about the very thing you mentioned. He was saying that Americans have gotten used to a "feel good" gospel. They want it sugar-coated so that it doesn't cost them anything. They sit back and ask,"What's in it for me?" He proclaimed that as long as he was the pastor, the Bible and that only would be preached from the pulpit-not man's traditions and not what we wanted to hear. He is very good about being a bold messenger. He has been preaching about experiencing true worship. Today he talked about expectations of worship. We don't go to church to get, but to give. Jesus is the audience. It was good. He told the church if they weren't excited during worship, then maybe they just needed to go ahead and get saved. Everyone laughed and applauded.However, during the invitation, I could feel the presence of evil lurking. I kept rebuking the powers of darkness, but I kept getting this "mental visual "of a satanic spirit hovering around my daughter and her boyfriend. I kept praying for a hedge of protection until salvation was secured. I have already witnessed to him. He feels that he's saved, but has never made it public. He shows no real evidence of being a Christian. Please pray about this. We can overcome these dark forces by the blood of the Lamb.
 
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Thanks,Ronnie. I know that sometimes when I am on this site I feel so comforted. Other times I am reading along and I have such a strange feeling come over me. There are doctrines talked about here that are quite strange to me. I have been a Christian a long time and have been through a lot of studies, etc. but I know that there are things I haven't learned. Of couse, there are things I don't want to learn, as well. I do think since we are told to put on the "mind of Christ" that He and He alone will give us the discernment on what truths to believe and what is false teaching. We need to know our swords better. Just this morning in our worship service, our pastor was talking about the very thing you mentioned. He was saying that Americans have gotten used to a "feel good" gospel. They want it sugar-coated so that it doesn't cost them anything. They sit back and ask,"What's in it for me?" He proclaimed that as long as he was the pastor, the Bible and that only would be preached from the pulpit-not man's traditions and not what we wanted to hear. He is very good about being a bold messenger. He has been preaching about experiencing true worship. Today he talked about expectations of worship. We don't go to church to get, but to give. Jesus is the audience. It was good. He told the church if they weren't excited during worship, then maybe they just needed to go ahead and get saved. Everyone laughed and applauded.However, during the invitation, I could feel the presence of evil lurking. I kept rebuking the powers of darkness, but I kept getting this "mental visual "of a satanic spirit hovering around my daughter and her boyfriend. I kept praying for a hedge of protection until salvation was secured. I have already witnessed to him. He feels that he's saved, but has never made it public. He shows no real evidence of being a Christian. Please pray about this. We can overcome these dark forces by the blood of the Lamb.
There are some worthy congregations out there and we all know it. No way is Jesus ever going to stop reaching people, it's just tapering off and we need to seek the strength of fellowship, or revel in the peace of solitude, and pray for our unseen Brother and Sisters. I will pray for your daughter and her boyfreind. I cannot judge him, or his true feelings about Jesus but I will say that Jesus knows his heart. Shine bright for Jesus and believe and He will save your daughter, her boyfreind, your entire family.Psalms 37:4 Delight thyself also in the LORD: and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.
 

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Thanks, Ronnie. I truly can say I know my new friends at this site are praying. Since I was honest and asked people to pray, admitting that I had a need, I can already see the Lord at work. Thanks so much. Never hesitate to ask me to pray for you as well.
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Thanks,Ronnie. I know that sometimes when I am on this site I feel so comforted. Other times I am reading along and I have such a strange feeling come over me. There are doctrines talked about here that are quite strange to me. I have been a Christian a long time and have been through a lot of studies, etc. but I know that there are things I haven't learned. Of couse, there are things I don't want to learn, as well. I do think since we are told to put on the "mind of Christ" that He and He alone will give us the discernment on what truths to believe and what is false teaching. We need to know our swords better. Just this morning in our worship service, our pastor was talking about the very thing you mentioned. He was saying that Americans have gotten used to a "feel good" gospel. They want it sugar-coated so that it doesn't cost them anything. They sit back and ask,"What's in it for me?" He proclaimed that as long as he was the pastor, the Bible and that only would be preached from the pulpit-not man's traditions and not what we wanted to hear. He is very good about being a bold messenger. He has been preaching about experiencing true worship. Today he talked about expectations of worship. We don't go to church to get, but to give. Jesus is the audience. It was good. He told the church if they weren't excited during worship, then maybe they just needed to go ahead and get saved. Everyone laughed and applauded.However, during the invitation, I could feel the presence of evil lurking. I kept rebuking the powers of darkness, but I kept getting this "mental visual "of a satanic spirit hovering around my daughter and her boyfriend. I kept praying for a hedge of protection until salvation was secured. I have already witnessed to him. He feels that he's saved, but has never made it public. He shows no real evidence of being a Christian. Please pray about this. We can overcome these dark forces by the blood of the Lamb.
what do you mean "a strange feeling coming over you" HBG ?
 

His By Grace

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Well, there are people on this site that don't have the light of Christ. Remember the parable of the wheat and the tares? It's almost imossible to tell the two apart from looking at them on the outside. They blend in well. It's when you open them up that you see the difference. I really feel that there are times when I am reading a post from an unbeliever that I can feel the spiritual battle going on. It's just like the title of this thread. I know the Holy Spirit gives to some the gift of discernment. We are to test the spirits. Not all that "claim" to be Christians are. I just get this "sense" of something being wrong sometimes when I am reading along. I have to stop and pray. I ask the Lord for guidance to truth. I want no part of the enemy's blinding attacks.