1 Corinthians 11 has a lot of insight on how people should act. Primarily the man is made in the image of God. And the woman of the man. And the woman aught to cover her head.1 Corinthians 11:1-12 1. Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. 2. Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you. 3. But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. 4. Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. 5. But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 6. For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. 7. For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. 8For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. 9. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. 10. For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. 11. Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. 12. For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.It seems that a lot of today's Christians do no follow this teaching (or law).Of course Proverbs is a whole book dedicated to this topic.
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I was gonna post "you have opened a can of worms with this one" but after reading it and thinking about it, it does seem quite straight forword. looking forward to other responses on this one.
Many men don't take they place as the head of the house as a Spiritual leader etc. these days, I see many strong women been raised up... yeah not biblical, what do you do??? I rather see people doing something than just sitting passively, whether it's a woman or man. I don't cover my head, I'm a sinner. Did Jesus have long hair ?
It's truth and that's probably how so many homes have gotten into trouble, but not all homes have a spiritual leader. Thunder1 brings forth a valid point. You can't follow a dead horse or stagnant horse. So, I do think we are to serve the Lord with all of our hearts as best we can and try to help our spouses to know Christ- easier said than done. We will be accountable to God one day, though. I don't think nagging is appropriate at all-"without a word "comes to mind and Proverbs is full of advice as well. So, I'm curious about somethng, Wakka. How old are you and where did you get your name?What did make you bring up this topic?
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It's truth and that's probably how so many homes have gotten into trouble, but not all homes have a spiritual leader. Thunder1 brings forth a valid point. You can't follow a dead horse or stagnant horse. So, I do think we are to serve the Lord with all of our hearts as best we can and try to help our spouses to know Christ- easier said than done. We will be accountable to God one day, though. I don't think nagging is appropriate at all-"without a word "comes to mind and Proverbs is full of advice as well. So, I'm curious about somethng, Wakka. How old are you and where did you get your name?What did make you bring up this topic?
1. I'm seventeen (so close!).2. It's just an old internet alias I've been using for a long time now.3. I'm Russian, and I've grown up in a Protestant church that is kind of strict. A lot of women (especially the older ones) wear scarfs over their heads, and the women are submissive to their husbands (think 1950's). And their lives are thriving. In our Church, very very very few people have a divorce compared to some American churches. If you go to Russia, or any other country outside of American influence, you'll find the same scenario. Most of the young people in my church marry right away and have children right away. The men give oaths to be the head of the family, and the women are taught to raise children, help the husband, and a lot of them do work also.I'm sorry, but the United States is backwards.I almost forgot to mention that in my church men don't wear shorts, and women don't wear pants. It's respectable to the people who run the place, and especially respectable to the Lord.
It's truth and that's probably how so many homes have gotten into trouble, but not all homes have a spiritual leader. Thunder1 brings forth a valid point. You can't follow a dead horse or stagnant horse. So, I do think we are to serve the Lord with all of our hearts as best we can and try to help our spouses to know Christ- easier said than done. We will be accountable to God one day, though. I don't think nagging is appropriate at all-"without a word "comes to mind and Proverbs is full of advice as well. So, I'm curious about somethng, Wakka. How old are you and where did you get your name?What did make you bring up this topic?
1. I'm seventeen (so close!).2. It's just an old internet alias I've been using for a long time now.3. I'm Russian, and I've grown up in a Protestant church that is kind of strict. A lot of women (especially the older ones) wear scarfs over their heads, and the women are submissive to their husbands (think 1950's). And their lives are thriving. In our Church, very very very few people have a divorce compared to some American churches. If you go to Russia, or any other country outside of American influence, you'll find the same scenario. Most of the young people in my church marry right away and have children right away. The men give oaths to be the head of the family, and the women are taught to raise children, help the husband, and a lot of them do work also.I'm sorry, but the United States is backwards.I almost forgot to mention that in my church men don't wear shorts, and women don't wear pants. It's respectable to the people who run the place, and especially respectable to the Lord.
It's also cultural. One might say that extremes tend to lean towards man's interpretation of the Bible and "the way things should be". For some instances, I think a relationship from the 1950's would be lovely- but for others, no thank you! And I can say that with an honest heart because it doesn't go against scripture. Back in the times of Jesus, men wore robes- a lot like dresses. Nowadays it's only the women that wear the robes.... maybe the point is to put your best foot forward to God? To present the best of yourself to God?I also might say that is why Paul stresses so much that we are not to be "unequally yolked"- both with unbelievers but maybe also trying to find partners who are not weak in their faith? I would rather have a strong partner, firm in their faith who takes his role seriously as head of our household or no partner at all. (Barring, of course, that this is all in line with what God wants!)
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When we talk about a wife submitting to the husband, think of the church. In my family, my wife looks to me for spiritual guidance. Although I am personality-wise the passive one, and she the leader, I know that in my silence I have more sway than what appears to be openly obvious.I already started a thread as to who does the driving in our family--- my wife does, both long trips and even short jaunts to church. Does this mean that I am not being a leader-type husband? Perhaps many think so since the norm is over 70% of the time we see the man driving (it represents a leader role). But the way I look at it is Christ wants the church to do some work for Him. Likewise, I let my wife lead in many things just as the church does work for the Lord.Compare Proverbs 31:10-31. The woman depicted in that scripture definitely runs the household in a business-like manner to the delight of her husband. That's how my wife and I do things.We must be doing something right because, A) God gave her to me, and
We've been together for 22 years.
Great testimony, Tim. I would say you are doing something right-working as a team. But you should have the final say and more importantly it sounds like you can be trusted in that decision. Wakka, you are a very interesting person. I have been reading your posts in different places. I would have bet money (if I gambled, but I don't) that you were young. I can just tell by the way you say things. It's great to have passion for the Lord and His ways. I am glad that your country has fewer divorces because we do have entirely too many. Yes, America has its share of problems. I still wouldn't want to live anywhere else that I can think of. As the years pass, you hopefully learn from mistakes you've made and get more experience to go with your Biblical knowledge. That helps you to know not to start a thread like this where the women want to "rush" over and choke you (just kiddin'). Gotcha!!!!!
Lol. How much are you willing to bet. And everybody look at the birthdays list tomorrow (the 12th for a surprise).
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