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I just thought of something in:

John 8:1-59

If Interested to get context of verse 44, Jesus was talking to:
31Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

The Devil is a liar in verse 44.

The Children of the Devil

42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
 
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I just thought of something in:

John 8:1-59

If Interested to get context of verse 44, Jesus was talking to:
31Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

The Devil is a liar in verse 44.

The Children of the Devil

42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.


So what was it that you just thought of?

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It's not so much that we have the word of God, because the Devil has it to. But we possess something the Devil doesn't, the Spirit of God. The Spirit of God coupled with the word of God is what transforms the scriptures into a doctrine of truth. The Spirit reveals the simplicity of the Gospel, whereas the Devil is only able to breed confusion and discord.


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It's not so much that we have the word of God, because the Devil has it to. But we possess something the Devil doesn't, the Spirit of God. The Spirit of God coupled with the word of God is what transforms the scriptures into a doctrine of truth. The Spirit reveals the simplicity of the Gospel, whereas the Devil is only able to breed confusion and discord.


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The devil is a liar, just like Jesus have said, even from the beginning and abode not in the truth. This is why it is expedient that we must have the spirit of Christ in us working out his plan. If any of us do not have his Spirit, we are none of his.

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Romans 8:9
 
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The children of the devil ....hmm

The Devil is a liar and an accuser.......he loves to discredit and denounce people, pointing out hypocrisy and calling for God to show no mercy when he finds it.

Sounds like a lot of Christians I’ve run into....
 

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The children of the devil ....hmm

The Devil is a liar and an accuser.......he loves to discredit and denounce people, pointing out hypocrisy and calling for God to show no mercy when he finds it.

Sounds like a lot of Christians I’ve run into....
Has made me cry buckets over the years....
 

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satan rejects the Word; all he has is Scripture, wadr
He cannot 'reject' The Living Word any longer, as The Living Word kicked his caboose, and took his 'crown' and authority away......Hallelujah.....Mind you, satan still acts like it isn't so lol
 
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The children of the devil ....hmm

The Devil is a liar and an accuser.......he loves to discredit and denounce people, pointing out hypocrisy and calling for God to show no mercy when he finds it.

Sounds like a lot of Christians I’ve run into....
Devil= Christians hmm?
1 John 3:1-14New King James Version (NKJV)
3 Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! Therefore the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. 2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is. 3 And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.

Sin and the Child of God
4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.

7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

The Imperative of Love
10 In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother. 11 For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, 12 not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works were evil and his brother’s righteous.

13 Do not marvel, my brethren, if the world hates you. 14 We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love his abides in death.

Yes anyone who does not abide can not point out sin. He who abides lets the Word convict you. The Word is a sharp two edged sword. And news flash satan does Not call out hypocrisy , that he loves very much because hypocrisy is evil. Satan is not against that which he contrived. Hypocrisy is to live a deceptive lie. A deceptive lie has a mask. It is the road of maligning the truth.
 
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He cannot 'reject' The Living Word any longer, as The Living Word kicked his caboose, and took his 'crown' and authority away......Hallelujah.....Mind you, satan still acts like it isn't so lol
ya, Word is hidden, and hard to find. Much easier to guide an unbeliever to Word than a Christian, i notice. Seems counter-intuitive
 
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About how The Devil plays an imposter with some people, namely with me when I was of the world, and even now and then. But we have the word of God to carry us through to study unto Jesus Christ day and night.

So, who are the children of the devil?

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I read it. Still didn't answer the question as to who the children of the devil are.

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In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

1 John 3:10

4Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 7Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
 
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In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

1 John 3:10

4Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 7Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

So, you acknowledge that you haven't answered the question. You just keep giving verses that you hope all will accept as an answer.

Yet, you have no answer.

Are you saying you are a child of the devil? Because I know you sin. (3:8) So, are you a child of the devil? Or will you lie to me and say you do not sin. Go ahead.

Who are the children of the devil?

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So, you acknowledge that you haven't answered the question. You just keep giving verses that you hope all will accept as an answer.

Yet, you have no answer.

Are you saying you are a child of the devil? Because I know you sin. (3:8) So, are you a child of the devil? Or will you lie to me and say you do not sin. Go ahead.

Who are the children of the devil?

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I better stop trying to please you with the scriptures, maybe someday you will find the wright answers for yourself.
 

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So, you acknowledge that you haven't answered the question. You just keep giving verses that you hope all will accept as an answer.

Yet, you have no answer.

Are you saying you are a child of the devil? Because I know you sin. (3:8) So, are you a child of the devil? Or will you lie to me and say you do not sin. Go ahead.

Who are the children of the devil?
the honest people? lol
 
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I better stop trying to please you with the scriptures, maybe someday you will find the wright answers for yourself.
don't forget you are surrounded by a cloud though, of other seekers; iow your reply is not made in a vacuum ok, you have a congregation right here, and prolly other ones wondering where you are right now, even missing you