Theory of Evolution

breathofdesire said:

Do I have to call you dickhead again?

(This is called a bioelectrical shock wave)

Transfers from person to person, up to 50 foot.

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ha, i tried that on AFF, got banned for it lol. i guess the point was missed there, @Pisteuo could tell us

Stranger said:

Not so. Do you agree that Jesus is a 'Who' and not a 'what'?

Stranger

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might be a good thread there; imo Jesus was a who, and Christ is a What???

Stranger said:

You can call me whatever you like. You fail to prove your false statements however. So, acting tough and crude doesn't bother me. At this time, that is all I see you have to offer.

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that is the advantage of Crowd Wisdom though; witnesses who see differently

"Male children are twice as likely to be born with a vestigial tail as female children," but of course we all have a tail in the womb
are human babies ever born with tails - Google Search

we observe the "evolution" of Superbugs via antibiotic overuse right now.
Didn't exist yesterday, suddenly exist today

bbyrd009 said:

we observe the "evolution" of Superbugs via antibiotic overuse right now.
Didn't exist yesterday, suddenly exist today

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That is because the term "evolution" does not tell all and does not do justice to the greater truth.

If it were as simple as "things evolve", and therefore evolution is true and the bible is wrong or misunderstood, that would be easy. And for those who exist without God, that is enough and it is accurate within that limited existence or context. But that is not all there is. That only is true of the organic world... But what of the kingdom that is not of this world, of Him who created this limited existence? That is like saying, Fish in a bowl all live relatively short lives...which is true of fish in a bowl, but not in the bigger picture. The key word being "relatively."

So, yes, relative to the natural world, things are much as they appear. But that, again, is a small and incomplete answer...which actually turns out to be wrong in the bigger picture.

How, is it wrong?

It is wrong, because of what the world actually is. Like the fishbowl, it is a "creation" that should not even be considered "real", but rather "made up." That "made up" existence, as defined by Him who made it, is not a thing that is evolving at all, but is rather being revealed in His story as it was written before the foundation of the world - meaning, not evolving, but finished before it ever started...unbeknownst to men.

bbyrd009 said:

that is the advantage of Crowd Wisdom though; witnesses who see differently

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Crowds can be just as stupid as any individual. In other words, crowds can follow you.

Stranger

ScottA said:

That is because the term "evolution" does not tell all and does not do justice to the greater truth.

If it were as simple as "things evolve", and therefore evolution is true and the bible is wrong or misunderstood

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we are just a collection of cells that ate from the tree of Knowledge and got Free Will, just like We planned imo; previously At One, and now separated
(And we are, most of us, busily, actively killing our closest connection to all other life--our gut bacteria--as we speak.
And suffocating the part that is us with poor cell wall formation from lack of Omega3, so your cells can't breathe)(sheesh)

imo it's as simple as "things evolved," just like Superbugs, just like you did, from the dust of the earth it just attacks our sacred cows lol

Stranger said:

Crowds can be just as stupid as any individual. In other words, crowds can follow you.

Stranger

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hmm, then the crowd becomes an audience tho i guess; you get to pick your witnesses anyway, right, really they are just the opinions of others you trust in a matter. it's on you iow. if you wanna turn your crowd into an audience, lotsa ppl tryna do that right, you can do that too sure.

but hearing the same...characterization from more than one stranger/acquaintance--unbiased 'witnesses'-- is ignored at one's peril, i guess is a lesson there

bbyrd009 said:

we are just a collection of cells that ate from the tree of Knowledge and got Free Will, just like We planned imo; previously At One, and now separated
(And we are, most of us, busily, actively killing our closest connection to all other life--our gut bacteria--as we speak.
And suffocating the part that is us with poor cell wall formation from lack of Omega3, so your cells can't breathe)(sheesh)

imo it's as simple as "things evolved," just like Superbugs, just like you did, from the dust of the earth it just attacks our sacred cows lol

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I guess I have been unsuccessful in relaying the fact to you that life in the world is a book on a shelf, in which there is no actual inherent life, except what is written. The storyboard is not actually a living entity.

Stranger said:

I have this old Book that is not theory but truth. It disagrees with evolution and therefore I disagree with evolution.

Stranger

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Does that method work for medical care too? How about travel? A good donkey is hard to find in metropolitan areas.....in fact, i know of few outside this conversation.....

it's just amazing how Christians can even entertain the notions when the bible clearly states that man was here before the animals. supportive scriptures, Genesis 2:18-20 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him". Hold it. if God formed "EVERY" the beast of the field and brought them to Adam, then Adam was here before the beast of the fields, because Adam was "ALONE".

How hard is this to understand. if one say they believe the bible, and the evidence is right in front of their face, what's the problem? believing maybe. rather believe man instead of God?. Oh well, good luck.

Peace in Christ Yeshua.

aspen said:

Does that method work for medical care too? How about travel? A good donkey is hard to find in metropolitan areas.....in fact, i know of few outside this conversation.....

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Your parallel doesn't work. Try again.

Stranger

ScottA said:

I guess I have been unsuccessful in relaying the fact to you that life in the world is a book on a shelf, in which there is no actual inherent life, except what is written. The storyboard is not actually a living entity.

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i would say bc "fact" or no, it is functionally irrelevant to perceive in this manner, an admission of "no Free Will," which should also be represented. Is the end known by God, in the same manner that an adult/parent might "know" the end of a matter one of their children is engaged in? sure. Does God, being God, understand how every single detail will manifest IRL? arguable.

we are manifested in a construct that involves "time..." is this that thread? ah, no, but regardless life in the "world" is poorly perceived as a book on a shelf imo; whether you will change your mind or not has not been decided, whether i will overcome or not has not either, and etc. We are not God, ergo while your pov may, may have some relevance to God's pov, imo it will not serve you to believe that you can do nothing to overcome or change your mind; it will only deceive you, as several of us have endeavored to point out to you already imo. "I just can't help but be perfect as i am right now" is crap, even if it is also true in another sense.

"thank you God, that i am like the rest of men" is a better prayer imo

ScottA said:

The storyboard is not actually a living entity.

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yet Superbugs evolved from somewhere huh. Creation is poorly repped as "dead, lifeless" imo

101G said:

it's just amazing how Christians can even entertain the notions when the bible clearly states

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lol

101G said:

How hard is this to understand. if one say they believe the bible, and the evidence is right in front of their face, what's the problem?

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the prob is you read It; you did not let me read It to you, like you are doing for us, see

just let me read it for you, and you will prolly be fine, ok.



don't wanna? ok, good luck

no judgement there at all, right

101G said:

Peace in Christ Yeshua.

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your mama, ok? no offense

Stranger said:

Your parallel doesn't work. Try again.

Stranger

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i could show you a pitcher of your tail if you like

bbyrd009 said:

"Male children are twice as likely to be born with a vestigial tail as female children," but of course we all have a tail in the womb
are human babies ever born with tails - Google Search

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Creepy!

"ByGrace" said:

Creepy!

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lol. totally normal, made creepy by our expectations now i guess

bbyrd009 said:

i would say bc "fact" or no, it is functionally irrelevant to perceive in this manner, an admission of "no Free Will," which should also be represented. Is the end known by God, in the same manner that an adult/parent might "know" the end of a matter one of their children is engaged in? sure. Does God, being God, understand how every single detail will manifest IRL? arguable.

we are manifested in a construct that involves "time..." is this that thread? ah, no, but regardless life in the "world" is poorly perceived as a book on a shelf imo; whether you will change your mind or not has not been decided, whether i will overcome or not has not either, and etc. We are not God, ergo while your pov may, may have some relevance to God's pov, imo it will not serve you to believe that you can do nothing to overcome or change your mind; it will only deceive you, as several of us have endeavored to point out to you already imo. "I just can't help but be perfect as i am right now" is crap, even if it is also true in another sense.

"thank you God, that i am like the rest of men" is a better prayer imo

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You're not getting it.

If one is a child of God who is the timeless "I am", then they "are" timeless also...and this is just the story which is written of it. In other words, that person does not actually live within the pages of their story, but aside from it, just as God is aside from it. Which means that freewill does not exist within the story, but when it was "written", "before the foundation of the world", as it "were."

On the other hand, if one is not a child of God, they too are written of just as the child of God is, but the end of each is different. Nonetheless, each had their "hour of decision" and their freewill before the foundation of the world. But "time" to each is merely the reading of their "will." "It is written", does not indicate there "is" freewill. On the contrary, it indicates, there "was" freewill.

In which case, the best that can be done, is to be true to oneself.