Why Christians wont go through the tribulation

Futhermore Alan it is Satan who is the prince of the air where you think you will be gathered are you sure you want to go there??Ephesians 2:2 "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:"The "world" is this "Cosmos" or world age; and the "prince of the power of the air" is Satan. These "sons of disobedience" are the same persons as the tares of Matthew 13, that Jesus spoke about. In fact Jesus stated that if you don't understand the parable of the sower and the tares, you will not understand any of His parables. That means, by Jesus' explanation, that after that good seed was sown, in the night [secret] the evil one [Satan] came and sowed his seed also. Both the good seed and the bad seed looked about the same, and grew up together; However, at harvest time, the tares were poisonous and had to be separated.Then in Matthew 13:35-41 Jesus explains to His disciples this parable. The good seed were placed in the field [world] by God. These seed are people. Satan [who is the devil or evil one] planted the tares

(Alanforchrist;38935)
If you noticed where he started Matt 24: from, He conveniently left out the pre-trib rapture, Either misquoting to fit his own beliefs, or is ingnorant of the Bilical truth of the pre-trib rapture.He was saying that there is "No pre-trib rapture" and gave no scripture to back it up, when you make a statement you have to give scipture to back it up. You can't take scripture out of context to suit your own beliefs,
__ADMONITION__II Thes.2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him, Paul earnestly requests the brethren, and you and me, concerning the Second Advent and gathering to Christ.II Thes.2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Do not quickly waver or be disturbed: by a spirit, by something said, by First Thessalonians, the Lord’s day is NOT any moment.II Thes.2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Permit no person to deceive you in any way. Before Christ returns comes a defection from truth and the exposure of the false prophet, that is Satan.a falling away G646 apostasia (ap-os-tas-ee'-ah) Feminine of the same as G647; defection from truth (properly the state), (“apostasy”): - falling away, forsake.II Thes.2:4-5 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? Paul told them the false prophet Satan must be revealed first, before the Second Advent.

The reason for the tribulation is to sort out the bad Christians from the good ones.

(Wakka;39023)
The reason for the tribulation is to sort out the bad Christians from the good ones.
The first Tribulation is only tribulation for true followers of Christ. The reign of Satan and his close followers will be peace and prosperity, not to mention a great revival.

WakkaThe reason for the tribulation is to sort out the bad Christians from the good ones.
In a sense you are correct,but the problem is for those that believe in a rapture is, it will be the exact opposite of what you think,if you don't understand what the tribulation is all about you will not (maybe)but you will be deceived,you see that's the whole object of it,deception,more to the point the deception of satan pretending to be Christ.And just to take it on a deeper level,most of the people who followed satan in the first earth age,are living in this generation,ready to usher in their fatherIf you don't understand the beginning, there's a very good chance you won't understand the end.And I can bet you dollars to donuts that almost all rapture belivers have no clue about what took place in the beginning.

i would just like to comment on the tribulationif any one has a concordance and if they trace the word tribulation through the new testament they will see it is some thing that has happened! is happening !and will happen .and as far as the rapture or catching up of Christians to be with Jesus . that is at his second comming or judgement day the end of time the end of this worlds history.i neve understood where people think Jesus comes back three or four times .or that he is some kind of a sneaky type fellow . and on the sneak to sneaking christians out.But i would like to admit most every person is born with a left be-hind though. One should find it right next to their right be-hind.

(horsecamp;39258)
But i would like to admit most every person is born with a left be-hind though. One should find it right next to their right be-hind.
LAUGH OUT LOUD !!!

What does it mean when Paul says that the living will not precede to the lord, till the dead in Christ are raised?Explaining the rapture, paul tells us that the dead in Christ will be raised on his decent from heaven and then the living ones will be caught up with them then.This is to say that no living saint will be caught away to the lord, before the day of ressurection.Are we now to say that the ressurection happens before the tribulation.No way, because Jesus himself said that "after the trib of those days" the stars will fall, the sun doesnt shine, the moon goes out and the heavens will be dissolved with the shakin...and then the son of man will appear..when you see this ...look up , because your Redemption draweth near....This redemption, is the redemption of our bodies ==ressurection---glorification.Pauls teaching you that he speaks of the lords teaching--according to the word of the lord.
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
Matt 24--mk 13 --lk 21--jn 14 all tell us of Jesus promise/word to come back and get us.Peter refers to that promise of the lords, and whats going on in the heavens;
Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, 4 and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming?

The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.
Sounds exactly like what Jesus said about his promise.Peter knows that Paul contributes wisdom in all of his letters, about this promise the lord made;
Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless, 15 and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, 16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men and fall from your own steadfastness, 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
There is that day of eternity again.Jesus said that he would raise us the last day.John said that when he appears we will be like him, for we shall see him as he is.Job says;
But man dies and lies prostrate. Man expires, and where is he? 11 "As water evaporates from the sea, And a river becomes parched and dried up, 12 So man lies down and does not rise. Until the heavens are no longer, He will not awake nor be aroused out of his sleep. 13 "Oh that You would hide me in Sheol, That You would conceal me until Your wrath returns to You, That You would set a limit for me and remember me! 14 "If a man dies, will he live again? All the days of my struggle I will wait Until my change comes.
Remember that the living cannot precede to the lord until this day of Eternity, when the dead in Christ rise first

jeffweederWhat does it mean when Paul says that the living will not precede to the lord, till the dead in Christ are raised?Explaining the rapture, paul tells us that the dead in Christ will be raised on his decent from heaven and then the living ones will be caught up with them then.This is to say that no living saint will be caught away to the lord, before the day of ressurection.Are we now to say that the ressurection happens before the tribulation.No way, because Jesus himself said that "after the trib of those days" the stars will fall, the sun doesnt shine, the moon goes out and the heavens will be dissolved with the shakin...and then the son of man will appear..when you see this ...look up , because your Redemption draweth near....
What it means is that there is no way for the living to precede the dead for the simple fact that the dead are already with Christ,they are the ones whom He brings back with Him at His returnI Thessalonians 4:13 "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope."After Paul told the Thessalonians to live right in the community, and search their souls for sin in their lives, they were then to repent of any sin. Paul moved next to what happens when death comes to this flesh body. This topic is important to Paul, for it is the stabilizing factor to the Christian life. It removes the fear that comes from the unknown of ones death. Paul gives this information for one reason, and that is, that we not be ignorant as the heathen are. In other words, Paul doesn't want Christians stupid.This concern is over "them which are asleep". The concern is over the loved ones that have died and left them, and their decaying bodies are out there in their grave. Paul is saying for us not to be sorry about those Christians who are dead and gone, for that is the concern of the heathen. The heathen's fear comes from their ignorance of God's word, and His promises. The heathen have no hope, for they believe it's over at the burial.I Thessalonians 4:14 "For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him."If we believe, as a Christian, that Christ set the example for us; so that we will follow as He did, in dying, and rising again, then "to sleep" is to be dead from the flesh body. The Greek is a simple language, for it's structure allows one to be more precise. The subject in the frame of this verse is; "that ye not be ignorant as to where the dead are." If you're a Christian, you know and believe that Jesus Christ died, was buried, and on the third day arose and came out of the tomb. If you do not believe this, Paul classifies you as ignorant, and heathen [non-believer]. It was on the fortieth day that he ascended back to the Father. When Jesus ascended into heaven, all the souls went with him into heaven also, that had passed on, up to that point in time. The souls of some went to wait for that time of judgment, while others to the glory of God. Those that sleep [are dead] are not out there in a hole in the ground, but all Christians must believe that they arose to be with the Father, just like Christ did also. The dead are with God; all of them. "To be absent from the body [flesh body] is to be present with the Lord." Ecclesiastes 12:7.In your own sentence("after the trib of those days")states that Christ will not return until atfter the trib,so my question to you is how will you not go through it,if He is not coming until after?Now let me show you where these dead saints are,and you will see they are not in the ground waiting on Christ to return,they are already with HimRevelation 6:9 "And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:"These souls were killed for their stand in the Word of God. Who could that be? The saints of God, for their souls are now at [not under] the altar of God in heaven. Those souls have died and are with the Father in Heaven. Revelation 6:10 "And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord [Master], holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth."Their blood was shed on the earth, while at this time they are pleading at the altar of God in heaven. To be absent from this body is to be present with the Lord [Ecclesiastes 12:7]. The time of revenge will come at God's appointed time. Before God, nobody gets away with anything.

Jeffweeder, you missquoted
no i did not sir, In luke 21 :28
"There will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves, 26 men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 "Then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN A CLOUD with power and great glory. 28 "But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near."
"These things" refer to the stars,moon, sun, and going back one more verse we see that it may apply to the times of the Gentiles being over for Jerusalem.No matter which way you look at it, its closer than it has ever been before.---with signs.Doesnt change the fact that the ressurection doesnt happen till the heavens are no more...so we are awaiting our change to glory, up until that point as the living cannot precede the dead --to his presence.