Hi Kriss,If you want to debate Scripture with me and other members of this Christian Message Board that is great! That's what I believe we are all here for . . . to learn by searching the Scriptures and coming back to the other person with our proof of our point and being willing to accept the other's Reply as long as it's backed by Scripture.This way we will all be deepened in the knowledge and understanding of God's Word.When you start name-calling, and insulting your brothers and sisters, you are no longer acting in a Christian spirit. I hope you understand that we are all brothers and sisters who have been commanded by Our Lord to "love one another."1 John 4:20-21, "If anyone says, 'I love God,' and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen.And this commandment we have from him: whoever loves God must also love his brother."Calvin did not invent anything new, except that he expressed the reality of God's revelation in the Bible with a rather new term.The truth of it is not new, though. Limited Atonement simply means that Jesus Christ was sent by the Father to die for the sins of those the Father had Predestined (elected) to be saved . . . to be Christ's Church.Those, and only those, are the ones Christ made atonement for. Therefore, atonement cannot possibly be universal, but, by intent, limited.If you honestly believe that Christ's death was not limited to save only those the Father gave Him, then you must also conclude that He died for ALL men. Now, you have a problem! You are going to have to explain to your own mind and to me and all other readers on the Board why multitludes of people are going to hell for all eternity. Aren't you saying by that viewpoint that Jesus failed in His glorious work of salvation?If you want to talk about blasphemy, that's where I see it rearing its head, for sure!I've done my best to explain what God's word says.You have to dig into the Bible and study and search and compare Scripture with Scripture to satisfy yourself on the matter.I am very willing to interact with you in a loving and Scripture-based manner any time at all.I know that I, too, am learning all the time. waynemlj