The Mark of the Beast

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•First thing to make clear, this all pertains to a future event that has yet to take place. How can we know this?

•The first Beast that rises up is given authority for 42 months, and then Christ will return afterwards to capture the Beast and the false Prophet and throw them in the Lake of Fire. If this was an event that has already taken place, or started to take place in the past, we would have seen all the events take place described below in Revelation, as it is in a 42 month time period, and that is not the case.

•Some people will try and add to the text and claim the 42 months means something else...

•The Greek word used for forty: Strong's G5062 "tessarákonta" —forty. The KJV translates Strong's G5062 in the following manner: forty (22x). It literally means forty(40), and all 22 times it has been used in the Bible, it is to describe a literal number of 40.

•The Greek word for two: Strong's G1417 "dyo" a primary numeral; "two":—both, twain, two.

•We can see Revelation is speaking of literal 42 months. This should be obvious, but there are decivers out there who will tell you otherwise.

Then I[a] stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name. 2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”

5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue[c] for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe,[d] tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

•From this text, we can see this will be a period time where a one world Government will be set in place. This is where we are heading in the near future. You can find information about this by doing research.

11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. 12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 14 And he deceives those[e] who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived. 15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.


16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or[f] the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

•From verse 16, we can get details of what this Mark will be. This will be a time where not only is there a one world Government in place, but a one world currency system, as it would logically follow.

•From the context, we can see that this has to be a time where there is a cashless society. Why is that? Because if there is still cash around, when people receive the Mark, they who have yet to get the Mark can still Buy and Sell among themselves with the exchange of physical money.

•This Mark can't be speaking of something only spritual. Why is that? Because the Bible states it will be received on the right hand OR the forehead. It will not be on both, only one OR the other. If the forehead meant it was a spritual Mark, then there would be no need to be the other option of only getting the Mark on the right hand. Being able to get it only on the right hand means it contradicts the idea that getting the Mark on the forehead means Spritually in your mind. The text would of just said they would receive a Mark "in" their forehead, if it was Spiritual.

•Remember, the text is implying that some may get the Mark on their right hand, while others may get it on their forehead. Not that it will be either all on one or the other. This may be a case where they who don't have a right hand and will have to get it on their forehead, or just a personal choice.

•Two other points to take the idea away that it is spritual are this. The text says they will receive the mark "ON", and not "IN". To say "on the forhead", means physically on the surface. If it was spirtual, it would say "IN" the forehead.

•The other point is the Greek word for "Mark" is defined as this: cháragma, khar'-ag-mah; from the same as G5482; a scratch or etching, i.e. stamp (as a badge of servitude), or scupltured figure (statue):—graven, mark. This will be a physical Mark.

•Some people like to claim that Social Security is the Mark of the Beast. Well, that is easy to refute.

•First point is, this is a period of time that has clearly not happened yet, based on the information provided above. As stated, a one world Government, currency, ruler(42 months), then the return of Christ. Also, you do not see people being killed for refusing Social Security. This same premise can also apply to physical money, Cards, such as debit and credit.

•The Mark of the Beast also cannot be the worship on Sunday Sabbath. Why is that? As I stated above, it is a phsycial Mark you will receive either on the right hand or on the forehead. The Sabbath worship would hold the mark to something spritiual, and as I've noted above, it can't be spiritual.

•So the question is, is there anything that can fit the descriptions of the Mark of the Beast that we know about?

•Yes, there is. It is the RFID Micro Chip implant that can store all your data, including your bank account. This chip has already been implanted in people, some in their right hand. This is not officially the Mark of the Beast yet, because the Beast has yet to rise to power, but only a precursor leading up to the event.

•We have been conditioned throughout time to want more convenience in our lives. From physical money, to physical cards, to the cards having a chip to quickly adding a radio frequency to the cards so you can place your card(along with your hand) near a transmitter. This is all leading up to the RFID chip.

"Rockefeller info on the New World Order from Aaron Russo (RFID)"


•Aaron Russo describes in the video how this RFID chip is the ultimate plan, to enslave everyone with this chip, to have full control over the people. He gained this knowledge from Nick Rockefeller, who is part of one of the families who control the world.

Here is wisdom. Let him who has a mind calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is the number of mankind, and its number is six hundred sixty-six.


•This translation of this scripture comes from a Greek literal translation. It translates Strongs G444 as "Mankind".

•There's a conception from translation that say it will be a number of a man, and many people try to come up with theorys to apply 666 to a specific man.

•This is not absolute, and actually the literal translate shows that it is a number for mankind. So in a new light, you can calculate 666 to be a total number for the identification implemented in this chip of all men who receive the Mark. This means this number could be a total sum to identify each person. Like how we have a Social Security number, each is different, but the total number of characters is the same.

•This could mean 6+6+6=18(total ID sum). Not absolute, but a possible example.

•There is not any better known candidate for the Mark of the Beast. Since all currency will be on this chip, literally, you cannot Buy or Sell unless you have the Mark(Chip). It will be implanted(leaving a Mark) in either your right hand or your forehead. This RFID chip will be part of a one world Government and currency system. This all fits scripture perfectly without any contradiction.

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Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.
 
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There will be no pre-tribulation rapture. There is not one scripture in the Bible that proves it. As shown in revelation 11:15, the 7th trumpet will be post-tribulation when christ comes back. This will be the time where they who are alive and remain will be caught up. We all will see the beast come to rise up and the mark of the beast implimented.

Don't be fooled by these people deceiving you into believing there will be a pre-tribulation rapture. Not one scripture proves it. In fact, the Beast will make war with the Saints, and overcome them. If there was a pre-tribulation rapture, and the Saints didnt make it, why would you? It is because there is not a pre-tribulation rapture!

Decievers want you to believe in a pre-tribulation rapture, because they want to destroy your faith. if you believe god will take you out of this world before the Beast rises and the mark of the beast is implemented, you wont believe the Beast when you see him rise, nor believe the mark of the beast, because you believed God would take you out before you these things come to pass. Because of this, you may end up receiving the mark of the beast.

Don't be deceived by the agents of the devil. They disguise themselves as Christians and are all over the internet, especially on Christian forums. There's a good chance you argued with one of them over scripture, thinking they are a Christian.
 

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Well.....I guess I'm an agent of the devil according to you. Because I'm a firm believer in a pre-tribulation rapture.

Revelation 3:10, “Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth.”

Paul states in 1 Thessalonians 1:10, “and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead—Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.”

He also states in 1 Thessalonians 5:9, “For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.”

Romans 5:9 states, “Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him!

Ephesians 5:6 states, “Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient.”

Colossians 3:4 states, “When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.” Again and again, Scripture states the Church is not meant to endure God’s wrath.

And btw:
One’s end-time views have no bearing on the doctrine of salvation. What is to be celebrated is that our salvation will one day lead us upwards to be with our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ forever and ever.
 
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the mark of the beast/s then as now is as at Jn 6:66 = no life only death - twinc
 

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And btw:
One’s end-time views have no bearing on the doctrine of salvation. What is to be celebrated is that our salvation will one day lead us upwards to be with our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ forever and ever.

Yes indeed. "Look up for they redemption draweth nigh."

Not run around worrying about the Devil and what the One Worlders are doing..they have been "doing" as long as I have been a christian...almost six decades... we first heard all this back in the sixties!!

Our Salvation is "in the Lord" not in outwitting or saving ourselves from the Nasty Beastie.
Our God Wins!! \0/ \0/ \0/ .
 

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Psalms 37:37-40 Mark the blameless man, and observe the upright; For the future of that man is peace. But the transgressors shall be destroyed together; The future of the wicked shall be cut off. But the salvation of the righteous is from the Lord; He is their strength in the time of trouble. And the Lord shall help them and deliver them; He shall deliver them from the wicked, And save them, Because they trust in Him.
 
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Psalms 37:37-40 Mark the blameless man, and observe the upright; For the future of that man is peace. But the transgressors shall be destroyed together; The future of the wicked shall be cut off. But the salvation of the righteous is from the Lord; He is their strength in the time of trouble. And the Lord shall help them and deliver them; He shall deliver them from the wicked, And save them, Because they trust in Him.
U got the rite Bible words;I just babble out whatever feelin' I get when the Spiritu Sancti tweaks me w/somethin' like "why is this triple six obsessed neurotic trying 2 bum us all out w/this cowpoop ??"
 

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Last pg. "REV".. crazy cave-dwelling hermit apostle says;"If everything Jesus said was writ down this would B thicker than a Chicago ph. book !"or sumpin like that...& if all the data Wankan Tanka,(Holy Ghost) fed in2 our group souls was digitized // we'd need 1000 Kray super-comps 2 store it all ! Scrips R spozed 2 teach us how 2 think /not B only thing we're allowed 2 <m>
 
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Yes indeed. "Look up for they redemption draweth nigh."

Not run around worrying about the Devil and what the One Worlders are doing..they have been "doing" as long as I have been a christian...almost six decades... we first heard all this back in the sixties!!

Our Salvation is "in the Lord" not in outwitting or saving ourselves from the Nasty Beastie.
Our God Wins!! \0/ \0/ \0/ .
As my hero;"POPEYE" might say;"lemmie @ that sunburnt lumpy headed bozo,(red horned 1).I'll murdalize 'im,hucka;heyucka,hah !!"