King James Errors

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jamesrage

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You read the King James and found errors or you read from somewhere else that said there are errors in the King James?please point the errors out.It is contradictions or is it mistranslations?You shouldn't bother with atheist sites whose goals are to to discredit religion or currupt it.
 
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Of Course there are, but The Original Word of God doesn't. That's why you must pray for TRUE REVELATION. Like People who believe there is an ETERNAL hell because it says, Tormented for ever and Ever. In the Orginal Textus Receptus, Ever and ever means Ages to Ages. AGES being a period of Time.King James Version is as Close as it gets.
 

Jordan

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The King James translators at least did the translation in public, and did admitted that they are minor errors on there, that's why we look at Hebrew and Greek for words for Textus Receptus known as Byzantine Texts. Unlike modern versions that is copyrighted by MAN, they clearly attack Christ and say it is so easier to read...II Peter 1:20 - Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.I repeat "Unlike modern versions that is copyrighted by MAN, they clearly attack Christ and say it is so easier to read..."Well if you want to say it that way... It is easier to believe in a lie than the Truth. It is easier to tell a lie that to tell the Truth. It is easier to live in Darkness than to live in the Light.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
 

Wayne Murray

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Yes there are many translation errors. A Biblical student is well aware of translation errors. This is why every serious student of God's Word should have a Strongs Concordance. In the front of the original 1611 King James version is a letter called "The Translators To the Reader". Every one should read this letter. This letter tells of translators diligence and care of their work, and how King James did not pressure them in any way to make haste. Let me qoute a couple of sentences from this letter which I have underlined in my reprint copy.No cause therefore why the word translated should be denied to be the word, or forbidden to be current, notwithstanding that some imperfections and blemishes may be noted in the setting forth of it.If you ask what they had before them, truly it was the Hebrew text of the Old Testament, the Greek of the New. These are the golden pipes, or rather conduits, where through the olive branches empty into the gold.Neither did we run over the works with that posting haste that the Septuagint did; if that be true which is reported of them, that they finished it in 72 days; neither were we barred or hindered from going over it again, having once done it, like S. Hierome, if that be true which himself reported, that he could no sooner write anything, but presently it was caught from him, and published,Truly, that we might not vary from the sense of that which we had translated before, if the word signified the same thing in both places (for there be some words that be not of the same sense every where) we where especially careful, and made a conscience, according to our duty.A deeper subject is how the King James Bible was divinely brought about for English speaking readers. It is time tested and approved with many Scholars and students, and without doubt the Word of God, and is His Spirit.
 

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Hm,I use a Study Bible,I find them easier to read and have references to help me out!I do have a kjv at my house though,I just simply like the study bible for me better
 

Wayne Murray

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Hm,I use a Study Bible,I find them easier to read and have references to help me out!I do have a kjv at my house though,I just simply like the study bible for me better
It is not that difficult to read the KJV. Other translations only increase the man factor and man is very fallible. I have not seen it but only heard a rumor about a Bible version in street lingo using "dude" and "chill out" type terms. When will it ever end.
 

biblicalthought

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Unorthodox Christian wrote:
Like People who believe there is an ETERNAL hell because it says, Tormented for ever and Ever. In the Orginal Textus Receptus, Ever and ever means Ages to Ages. AGES being a period of Time.
These are some fascinating claims. What do you mean by the "Original TR?" Second, explain what you mean by ever and ever meaning ages to ages, and how that refers to a long time. Which language?
 

Jordan

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1 John 5:7 is an addition which was not in the original texts. For starters...
And to say that is just wrong...Go look at modern perVersions, they clearly attack Christ. I still haven't found one AFTER the KJV was made.I don't even know why humans wants to go with the Instead of Christ, instead of being with Christ.(Tehillah;36668)
isnt the niv the better translation?
No, cause it attacks Christ and His Word.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
 

amadeus

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While for English I always use and prefer the KJV, the Word of God is that which God "SPOKE". Everything that God wanted us to know can be found in a written Bible (nearly any version, translation or language), but I believe that even as the Truth was written in the first place by divine inspiration, so also can the Truth only be found by divine inspiration.The problem for all of is that not everything we receive from our Bible readings and studies is divinely inspired. None of us have all that God has to give. We are given the "earnest" [see II Cor 1:22] of the Spirit with which to start. The reason that we still sin after being "saved" is that we are still a 'mixed bag'. That is to say there is still an "old man" alive in us exerting his influence on our decisions when we are not in close enough contact with the "new man". Our focus should always be on the Lord, but in ourselves this is impossible. We need to ask for His help to even "pray without ceasing" and to "rejoice in the Lord alway". We must continue to ask Him to increase in us even while asking that we, ourselves, be decreased (the "old man" part of us). [see John 3:30].The only place that the Word of God really exists for us is 'within us' where God has written it, to the extent that He has written it. The Bible by itself has potential, but it is not Alive. The words that we "eat" from the Bible, the preacher, etc. can only be brought to Life by the Spirit. ["Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." II Cor 3:6]"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:" Matt 7:7
 

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those verses are completely taken out of context. II Corinthians 1:22: "Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts." This has nothing to do with us not having all God has to give. The deffinition of the word "earnest" (the third of three in the Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary): "something of value given by a buyer to a seller to bind a bargain." All this verse is saying is that God is sealing us by the Holy Spirit, and as the Holy Spirit is 100% God, we have all of God. This is shown in Ephesians 4:4-5: "There is on body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." He is in us all. The Spirit comes into us when we are saved. This verse says that it is the Father. That is because the Father, the Spirit, and the Son are One. II Corinthians 3:6: "Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." Read the very next verse. II Corinthians 3:7: "But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:" The "letter" is not talking about written words killing, it is talking about the Ten Commandments, or the Law, killing. 1 John 3:4: "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." Romans 6:23: "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." We would not know that we sin unless we had the Law, therefore the "letter" kills. The KJV Bible is infallibe. The letter that was quoted earlier "No cause therefore why the word translated should be denied to be the word, or forbidden to be current, notwithstanding that some imperfections and blemishes may be noted in the setting forth of it." is of no effect. The "imperfections and blemishes" were small spelling errors and errors of the printers. These were all fixed in the 1629, 1638, 1762, and 1769 editions of the KJV. What you read today is the God-spoken, perfect 1769 edition (not version or translation or revision) of the King James 1611 Authorized Version. As for true revelation, we have it. Right here in our Bible. If God can save me from all the sin I commit every single day, then He can write me a perfect Book so that I will know what to do to follow Him. Yes, we should pray that God would help us to understand the Bible when we read it, but as for revelation, we already have the whole of it.
 

Jerusalem Junkie

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Hate to disagree but there are some who say that they were errors in the translation. I cannot say for sure cause I do not know.
 

Wayne Murray

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The KJV Bible is infallibe. The letter that was quoted earlier "No cause therefore why the word translated should be denied to be the word, or forbidden to be current, notwithstanding that some imperfections and blemishes may be noted in the setting forth of it." is of no effect. The "imperfections and blemishes" were small spelling errors and errors of the printers. These were all fixed in the 1629, 1638, 1762, and 1769 editions of the KJV. What you read today is the God-spoken, perfect 1769 edition (not version or translation or revision) of the King James 1611 Authorized Version. As for true revelation, we have it. Right here in our Bible. If God can save me from all the sin I commit every single day, then He can write me a perfect Book so that I will know what to do to follow Him. Yes, we should pray that God would help us to understand the Bible when we read it, but as for revelation, we already have the whole of it.
You were doing so well till this.Any accomplished student of God's Word (The Authorized Version of the 1611 King James Bible 1886) knows there are errors in translation. Not to mention the revisers of the Authorized Version did not have the wealth of facts and information in the Massorah, which now has been compiled by a Biblical scholar.Enough said.
 

warr7020

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Yes sir, Two, I know that there are those who believe that. There are also those who believe that Jesus was not the Christ. We must see the evidence and believe what is true. We ask God to lead us and He will. But we must be careful because Satan would love to distract you and get you off God's path. Yes sir, Wakka, I have heard that before as well. However, you're missing the point of your article (please excuse me if I sound rude, I don't mean to. I'm only talking in Christian love, here, you have my word): "But, if you take that 1/2 of 1% and examine it, you find that the majority of the "problems" are nothing more than spelling errors and very minor word alterations. For example, instead of saying Jesus, a variation might be "Jesus Christ."" There is still nothing wrong. It is still His Name. Perhaps God would rather He was called Jesus in this text. You find this even in the KJV. Elijah is "misspelled" in the KJV. John 1:21: "And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No." God has His ways, and none of us know them: Isaiah 55: 8-9: "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."
 

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You were doing so well till this.Any accomplished student of God's Word (The Authorized Version of the 1611 King James Bible 1886) knows there are errors in translation. Not to mention the revisers of the Authorized Version did not have the wealth of facts and information in the Massorah, which now has been compiled by a Biblical scholar.Enough said.
Wayne I had read that was wondering if anyone else had? Cannot recall where I saw it though?????Hmmmmmm
 

Wakka

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Back in the day, circa 1600's, there was no spelling standard. People spelled words as they sounded.The King James erors were very misfortunate for there wasent a standard in literasey.