Do you not believe Satan exists?

pastor marty · Jan 19, 2018

truthquest said:
What would you tell someone who was having issues? For example, if they told you that they were being attacked physically and even thrown across a room in full view of others seeing that. Or if heavy furniture is being thrown around like toy furniture in their house. Or even worse that a family member is possessed. Things like that that so many people are reporting and needing help with. But are hesitant to ask for help because they think they won't be believed or will be told they have mental issues.

****They have mental issues ! imaginary tinnitus is as annoying 2 the beholder as a 24/7 dentists drill in the next apartment.Even if the evil thoughts stealing yer salvation are self induced or real demonic oppression;samo/samo 2 the victim ! U/me/us can help ! It's what the 2 'er more,+ GOD is 4... Agree???

truthquest · Jan 19, 2018

pastor marty said:
U/me/us can help ! It's what the 2 'er more,+ GOD is 4... Agree???

Yes I agree.

bbyrd009 · Jan 19, 2018

pastor marty said:
****They have mental issues !

hmm, seems more like their protection has been removed for some reason, even if it is self-inflicted, these "possessions;" might even be a manifestation of the unprotected status, iow. Hard to dismiss them as "mental" if they are manifesting, at least if by that you are implying "imaginary."

lforrest · Jan 19, 2018

bbyrd009 said:
hmm, seems more like their protection has been removed for some reason, even if it is self-inflicted, these "possessions;" might even be a manifestation of the unprotected status, iow. Hard to dismiss them as "mental" if they are manifesting, at least if by that you are implying "imaginary."

Can't always blame the person, it may be a thing or place they are near that is under some demonic influence. They are sneaky them buggars.

bbyrd009 · Jan 19, 2018

lforrest said:
Can't always blame the person, it may be a thing or place they are near that is under some demonic influence. They are sneaky them buggars.

anyone here ever actually seen a situation like that, or are we talking all anecdotally here?

lforrest · Jan 19, 2018

bbyrd009 said:
anyone here ever actually seen a situation like that, or are we talking all anecdotally here?

Discernment and Destroying Evil!

truthquest · Jan 19, 2018

bbyrd009 said:
anyone here ever actually seen a situation like that, or are we talking all anecdotally here?

People who have these kind of things happen to them usually don't feel comfortable talking about it in a public way.

Helen · Jan 19, 2018

bbyrd009 said:
anyone here ever actually seen a situation like that, or are we talking all anecdotally here?

Yes, and at different times with different people. It is no joke. I do believe that calling on the name of the Lord and the blood protection of Jesus is all powerful, but it is still very much of a battle...sometimes not easily won.
...but having seen these things, a person cannot un-see or un-hear what one has seen and heard.
Some of the best years of our life was in combat against these forces.

bbyrd009 · Jan 19, 2018

"ByGrace" said:
Yes, and at different times with different people. It is no joke. I do believe that calling on the name of the Lord and the blood protection of Jesus is all powerful, but it is still very much of a battle...sometimes not easily won.
...but having seen these things, a person cannot un-see or un-hear what one has seen and heard.
Some of the best years of our life was in combat against these forces.

hmm, being in a position to literally have to fight the devil, hmm. gotta sleep on that one.

amadeus · Jan 19, 2018

pastor marty said:
****one more time in case the folks in the cheap seats dint hear//Evil/agony/sickness feels the same whether it's todays attack or eternal/Forever is a scary concept/rite now is real !! & so's Lucifer & at the risk o'offending alot o'nice parsons;I mainly go 2 church 2 hide from the devil 4 a few hrs...U guys debate lofty topics/me;I'm just waitin'fer the bus home !(Heaven)********<m>*************

What is the fare in order to ride on that bus? Is anyone with the proper fare allowed aboard? Once aboard can you sit anywhere you like?

amadeus · Jan 19, 2018

bbyrd009 said:
hmm, being in a position to literally have to fight the devil, hmm. gotta sleep on that one.

Sleep well!

amadeus · Jan 19, 2018

bbyrd009 said:
hmm, seems more like their protection has been removed for some reason, even if it is self-inflicted, these "possessions;" might even be a manifestation of the unprotected status, iow. Hard to dismiss them as "mental" if they are manifesting, at least if by that you are implying "imaginary."

"Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face." Job 1:10-11

Yes, if the protecting hedge has been removed from around us, how will we be able to stand for God?

Call it mental illness or possession or whatever, it is surely a danger not to be ignored. Perhaps preparation beforehand is the best of defenses?

"Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting." Matt 17:21

Miss Hepburn · Jan 19, 2018

I don't think the fallen Angel of God's is personally taking the time to
make me have that second piece of triple chocolate cake...but something is
that is not the true 'me'.

Triumph1300 · Jan 19, 2018

Anybody who has a problem believing satan does not exists should go to a local library and borrow a couple of books about the German concentration camps and the holocaust. Satan was the main instigator of these events. And he's still hard at work today. The last couple of days I worked my way through some documentation about the nazi camps. I did not finish reading it all and returned the books because it made me sick.

pia · Jan 20, 2018

Triumph1300 said:
Anybody who has a problem believing satan does not exists should go to a local library and borrow a couple of books about the German concentration camps and the holocaust. Satan was the main instigator of these events. And he's still hard at work today. The last couple of days I worked my way through some documentation about the nazi camps. I did not finish reading it all and returned the books because it made me sick.

The Japanese were just as shocking to their Chinese ( in particular ) prisoners...It's just not as well known about

pia · Jan 20, 2018

pastor marty said:
****one more time in case the folks in the cheap seats dint hear//Evil/agony/sickness feels the same whether it's todays attack or eternal/Forever is a scary concept/rite now is real !! & so's Lucifer & at the risk o'offending alot o'nice parsons;I mainly go 2 church 2 hide from the devil 4 a few hrs...U guys debate lofty topics/me;I'm just waitin'fer the bus home !(Heaven)********<m>*************

There is only one place one can hide from the devil, and that is IN Christ.......I have heard of cases where self proclaimed 'witches' would go to churches to slowly become disruptive, just as one example...the building is not a guarantee, only The Temple of His body..

pia · Jan 20, 2018

truthquest said:
What would you tell someone who was having issues? For example, if they told you that they were being attacked physically and even thrown across a room in full view of others seeing that. Or if heavy furniture is being thrown around like toy furniture in their house. Or even worse that a family member is possessed. Things like that that so many people are reporting and needing help with. But are hesitant to ask for help because they think they won't be believed or will be told they have mental issues.

It certainly also has been on the increase...even many many police officers have come forward in the past few years and reported what they have witnessed, and some if it will chill you to the bone..

truthquest · Jan 20, 2018

pia said:
It certainly also has been on the increase...even many many police officers have come forward in the past few years and reported what they have witnessed, and some if it will chill you to the bone..

Yes it is on the increase. Police officers really have a tough and dangerous job dealing with this.
I saw a video recently of a man in a courtroom being sentenced by a judge. He was looking into the camera baring his teeth and snarling and growling.

pia · Jan 20, 2018

truthquest said:
Yes it is on the increase. Police officers really have a tough and dangerous job dealing with this.
I saw a video recently of a man in a courtroom being sentenced by a judge. He was looking into the camera baring his teeth and snarling and growling.

Eww...Yeah poor people who have no clue how to even begin to protect themselves from all that is coming...

truthquest · Jan 20, 2018

pia said:
There is only one place one can hide from the devil, and that is IN Christ.......I have heard of cases where self proclaimed 'witches' would go to churches to slowly become disruptive, just as one example...the building is not a guarantee, only The Temple of His body..

Yes absolutely. Witches love infiltrating and disrupting churches and they will try to introduce their practices and beliefs into churches in a subtle way and to harm people.

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