Good word Kalixx...We should care. If we don't, who will? We really are tested constantly in life...and by trials. We are also made by trials...and tests...Be assured to the Brother who wrote...that God not only sees you and them, but hears every word, every thought and....every motive, and ...that at the same time satan comes to buffet us and try to steal our faith, we are like Job...in a test. Truly, these kinda things will grow you...and we grow over time and over many experiences. You will not fail or die...but remember the parable of the the dying seed...it springs forth with new life. I die daily, was it Paul who said that? But yet daily Christ becomes more of who I am.I have seen vividly quite a number of times God prove something to me....when I was being tormented by enemies....while I in these times on one hand wanted to just explode and hate these people and give them a few words...I knew with a knowing....that if I held my peace and trusted God, that in the end he would make me stand. Today I remember well David..."Lord prepare me a table in the presence of my enemies." I also remember that if a man's ways please the Lord He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him...I did have to fight to not hate, and fight to find God's love in me for these people....and daily...each time the outcome was that I saw people who hated me change and come back to me in peace and kindness, and a few times I saw people put down....one lady had a nervous break down who tried to wreck my life....I think God knows every man's heart...and because I let him deal instead of dealing myself...he did deal....but never, ever, ever...I hope will I ever...rejoice in seeing another person hurt or judged or fall....This is Not God's Spirit. We do not wish evil even on our enemies...but wish that even if we by meekness and love let the fire fall on them, that the fire will refine them and not destroy them.You are in a place where God has room to work. Don't worry about feeling humiliated, do not feel weak or oppressed....but Know Brother, that the Love in you is wiser and stronger and more valiant than the foolishness these others are showing....don't stand in pride, but stand in full confidence that God is the right hand to those who trust in him, that he will save his people...he will find you standing when the smoke of the battle is over...and as for your enemies...because Christ is in you....what they do or say to you they do or say to him....we are partakers of his sufferring...rejoice if you can be a partaker....Love is the greater power...stand in it with confidence...don't worry about even an army that stands and mocks you...because while they are standing on the approval of man (their buddies)...you are standing on the aprroval of God....and when any one of them would ever find themself in the position of standing alone..eye to eye with you....how then will respond when pure Love is staring them in the eye? And I like to look people right in the eye! I bet they wouldn't be so confident if they stood alone with God...or God in you....Love is confident! The bible says "There is great confidence in the Lord,"....When we through time and many trials come to really see and know how God upholds us...we become less and less moved by the antics of man....think about Jesus....how when they ridiculed him and hit him etc... Was he afraid...was he embarrased...did self pride rise up in him....or was he a weak baby? None of these....Imagine the eye of God toward these people and Realize that Brother...His eye sees through your eyes...because He is in you! The greatest way to conquer an enemy is to become his friend....nobody said we can't be a little sly...(or wise) in our dealings with people who think they have an upper hand but don't know how powerful love is. Love is not weak. It's the weak who are cruel....you are not the weak....so then Brother...do not even consider weakening...and Kalixx....you say you don't know God personally, but yet I can see in you a presence of His True spirit....we don't have the wisdom of God's certain love...without any presence of it in us....I think if you Believe enough to not need a sign, like Thomas did....that ultimately God will reward your belief (faith). It is a perfectly sure thing kalixx, that if you believe with your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead and that sin is the reality that separates all of us...and you....from God, and if you from your heart ask Him for this gift of Salvation he will in no wise turn you away or give you a stone if you ask him for bread....Faith means believing him even if we see no sign....I will serve the Lord if I see no miracles....if he puts me to the highest tests...like Job...and allows satan to test me by taking away all that God has given me....If I make my bed in hell, I will still trust him, because he said he would be there with me....have you ever loved a child or a woman so much that your love was sure and solid even if the child or woman didn't instantly return all you were giving? Love the Lord like this....as he says, "with all our heart and mind and soul"....and Brother...I believe the day will come when he will reward your faith....and as he always does....show or give you exceedingly above all you can ask or think....I feel this about you.....don't reason...just believe....It's the tiniest faith that moves mountains, not the greatest knowledge...God "knows" your secret heart and intents...he can read them....who knows...maybe you are undergoing some kind of test of faith....you do have something...I can see it....and feel to say to you....Believe...without any signs being given...choose and trust God based on His Word and not your feelings...be like an immovable soldier...committed to the one we cannot see with mortal eyes...and after we have believed, not before...one day by surprise...God will reveal himself to you in a greater way than you can ask or think...but just look to Him and not to signs...because it never is or was by signs that we've seen him....but by Love.Alot of rambling from the rambler....but this time inspired rambling...about both of you...I can feel as I write God's love for you and "in" you...and did not premeditate all this but felt it as I wrote....walk on, being fully confident that God will...to those who delight themselves in Him...give them the desires of their heart....and He will....watch and see. siskim