The Olivet Discourse
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Would you include Matt. 23, 24 and 25. Its wrote for all that will hear and study it.
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I ask because some say it's just for the Jew's,whom they assume are Israel,which is not true
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I agree, this is also for Christian's, non Christian's really the whole world. The fig trees and all other trees hits me hard. So when we see all these things know that it is near. That the stars, sun, and moon also will act up. The three understanding of trees are, one nations are trees, two people are trees, three trees are trees. The sword form men and also a sword from heaven, fire and brimstone. We must pray about this and keep patience. The thing that gets me why wait for these things to happen let you travel be now not when things hit the fan.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
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You know the four ask Christ but He must have talked to more about these things because Luke wrote about it.
Creation, wow we will be looking at planets being destroyed and built, the verse says that.
19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.
These are those that made it thru the trib.. Unlike them that died in the trib. array in white robes.
20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
Creation, wow we will be looking at planets being destroyed and built, the verse says that.
19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.
These are those that made it thru the trib.. Unlike them that died in the trib. array in white robes.
20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
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Christ's Olivet Discourse (Matt.24; Mark 13; Luke 21) was written to us, Christ's Church, and was given as warning signs for the very end of this world that His disciples with Him asked about. It directly parallels the seals of Revelation 6 as both can be studied together about the signs of the end.
Actually, a small correction is needed.
Who was this discourse by Jesus spoken to?
The discourse by Jesus is recorded in a number of Gospels, with Matthews recorded account probably the fullest.
So? Who was (Matt. 23:37-39) written to? The subject of the thread is 'who was the Olivet discourse written to?' If you question my question, then you question the subjects question. If you can answer my question, then you answer the subjects question.
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That was when Jesus spoke to the scribes and Pharisees before He went out of the temple to the Mount of Olives. The Matthew 24 chapter is when He went out of the temple and went with His disciples to the Mount of Olives, and there He gave them the signs of Matthew 24.
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The best exegesis I've ever heard on this passage laid it out like this:
Matt 24:4-28 are "The birth pangs of the Messiah", which are basically the signs that are characteristic of the whole period between Christ's two comings.
Verses 15-21 describe a particularly sharp and specific birth pang (destruction of the temple), which Jesus mentions specifically because the disciples asked about it and mixed it up with his second coming.
Verses 29-31 speak of Christ's second coming.
Verses 32-44 Deals with the "when" of Christ's return. V32-35 tell us that all the things Jesus has predicted (except for his return) will be seen (come to pass) in the disciples lifetimes. And we know that they did. They have also continued and will continue until Jesus comes back. V36-44 speaks of the unexpected, unknowable hour of his return, and how life will be going on as it always has.
As I said, this is the best explanation I've heard. The reason we see Jesus jumping back and forward from his disciples near future to the distant one is not surprising or unprecedented in scripture. The OT prophets did the same when looking ahead to Christ's comings. They saw one, single event and spoke of them together, while we know that there will be two.
I'm not planting my flag on this hill of interpretation, but I like it and think it makes sense. It make sense biblically, and it makes sense from what we can see of history and also where we see the world headed now. And so, to answer the OP question...I think it's written to everyone. The Disciples and Jewish believers of that day would have had needed to heed it first...and we know they listened to Christ and fled Jerusalem when the Romans attacked. But every time there is an earthquake, or a false christ or persecution throughout history, Christians have looked at the Olivet discourse and said, "Christ" told us this would happen.
That's just my two cents, anyway!
Matt 24:4-28 are "The birth pangs of the Messiah", which are basically the signs that are characteristic of the whole period between Christ's two comings.
Verses 15-21 describe a particularly sharp and specific birth pang (destruction of the temple), which Jesus mentions specifically because the disciples asked about it and mixed it up with his second coming.
Verses 29-31 speak of Christ's second coming.
Verses 32-44 Deals with the "when" of Christ's return. V32-35 tell us that all the things Jesus has predicted (except for his return) will be seen (come to pass) in the disciples lifetimes. And we know that they did. They have also continued and will continue until Jesus comes back. V36-44 speaks of the unexpected, unknowable hour of his return, and how life will be going on as it always has.
As I said, this is the best explanation I've heard. The reason we see Jesus jumping back and forward from his disciples near future to the distant one is not surprising or unprecedented in scripture. The OT prophets did the same when looking ahead to Christ's comings. They saw one, single event and spoke of them together, while we know that there will be two.
I'm not planting my flag on this hill of interpretation, but I like it and think it makes sense. It make sense biblically, and it makes sense from what we can see of history and also where we see the world headed now. And so, to answer the OP question...I think it's written to everyone. The Disciples and Jewish believers of that day would have had needed to heed it first...and we know they listened to Christ and fled Jerusalem when the Romans attacked. But every time there is an earthquake, or a false christ or persecution throughout history, Christians have looked at the Olivet discourse and said, "Christ" told us this would happen.
That's just my two cents, anyway!
And the Scribes and Pharisees were Jews. And upon that generation of Jews Jesus pronounced a severe judgement to come. (Matt. 23:36) Then Jesus turns His attention to Jerusalem and laments its rejection of Him. Again, that is Jews, Israel. "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets....Behold, your house is left unto you desolate." (37-38) Whose house is left desolate? The Jews.
Then in (39) Jesus said, "For I say unto you...." Who is 'you'? It is the Jews. "For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord." (39) This speaks to a future day for Jerusalem, for the Jews. They will not see Christ anymore 'till' they recognize His Lordship. A promise of the Second Coming.
The disciples were Jews. They didn't know yet of any Christian age. Thus when they show Christ the Temple, Christ immediately refers back to the judgements He promised in (23:36) saying the temple would be destroyed. Their questions in (24:3) pertained to their relationship as Jews and Israel to Christ. Christ had spoken of judgement upon Israel and His leaving Israel and His coming again to Israel. And that was what their questions were directed at.
Even after the resurrection you will see that they hoped now that Christ would return to Israel and set up the kingdom. (Acts 1:6) "When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?" To which He informed them it wasn't for them to know when that would occur. (7)
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Matt.23 - Jesus speaking to unbelievers of the Jews
Matt.24 - Jesus speaking to His Church
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The scribes of Israel were mostly foreigners that became... religious Jews:
1 Chron 2:55
55 And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.
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The Kenites were a people from the lands of Canaan:
Gen 15:19-21
19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,
20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims,
21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.
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