those who think that God shouldn't be feared, are fools

VictoryinJesus · Feb 23, 2018

DPMartin said:
also who are the fatherless in the Throne of Heaven's view? are they not those who are not born again and can't call God the Father (Abba)? who are the widows in the view of the Throne in Heaven, isn't it those who are betrothed to death, and not the Groom the everlasting Life we know to be Jesus? and who are those without food and raiment?

Yes. "in giving them food and raiment". There is the power of God. It is a promise. He will give a son whatever a son ask for in His name. Raiment and food for the orphans, for the widow, and for a stranger. What they need is the Spiritual, not more of the physical. Gather, don't scatter!

tabletalk · Feb 23, 2018

VictoryinJesus said:
Agree. I would even say, what you explained is the overcoming of the world.

John 16:33
[33] These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Acts 14:22
[22] Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

I get it: this life is not about us serving us, but us serving God. My husband says I am one of the weakest people he has ever met, and it is true. Our counselor calls it a fear based personality. I fear God and have for most of my life. There are things in His word; gripping truths about Him that if I brought them here and shared, others would definitely not like the truth of what His word says. But there is not one verse or truth about God's power that offends because, while I fear God, I also know He is good and has a plan and His plan surpasses our own understanding. With fear there must also be trust. If all we talk about is fear then when do we get to share the marvelous work God has done?

John 16:27
[27] For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

Genesis 15:1
[1] After these things the word of the Lord came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.

2 Corinthians 12:10
Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

Truth · Feb 23, 2018

bbyrd009 said:
ah, here it is

"I decide, and you better fear me" is essentially the message being conveyed

Excellent, loved the video laughed Out Loud, It does seem to come to this end, we all see through our own eye's.

bbyrd009 · Feb 23, 2018

Truth said:
Not everyone had such sweet parent's, I have posted before, I FEARED MY DAD, and for good reason. I also fear God, with a reverence fear, and DP is right He has the Power to save, and not to save, If any one brakes the least of the Commandments, that all it takes.

seems at least fair to say that

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Who is not fam with "because i said so," and the warning implicit in that?
The whole point there is "you don't have to respect the decision; you better fear the consequences of not obeying it, tho."
"

has not attracted anyone explicitly unfamiliar with it? lol
i'm guessing here, as i got no reply

bbyrd009 · Feb 23, 2018

Truth said:
He has the Power to save, and not to save

the power of life and death is in the tongue

hmm

Truth · Feb 23, 2018

bbyrd009 said:
the power of life and death is in the tongue

hmm

I love you man, I don't know where you get these Video's, but that was Priceless. The beginning of Wisdom is the Fear of God, and yes there is death in the tongue, I have been a witness to that form of destruction. It is like a person walking out into the town, and they begin to shoot Arrows into the air in all directions, and inevitably hit someone. the tongue speaks the slander, which is the arrow, and it doe's finely hit the one being slandered! sad but true. Thanks for the Video!

Truth · Feb 23, 2018

VictoryinJesus said:
Agree. I would even say, what you explained is the overcoming of the world.

John 16:33
[33] These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Acts 14:22
[22] Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

I get it: this life is not about us serving us, but us serving God. My husband says I am one of the weakest people he has ever met, and it is true. Our counselor calls it a fear based personality. I fear God and have for most of my life. There are things in His word; gripping truths about Him that if I brought them here and shared, others would definitely not like the truth of what His word says. But there is not one verse or truth about God's power that offends because, while I fear God, I also know He is good and has a plan and His plan surpasses our own understanding. With fear there must also be trust. If all we talk about is fear then when do we get to share the marvelous work God has done?

John 16:27
[27] For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

Genesis 15:1
[1] After these things the word of the Lord came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.

The God of the old Testament is the same god of the New.
When God by Joshua lead the people into the Promise Land, they came to a place where there are two Hill's, one mount Gerizim, and Mount Ebal. Half of the Tribes of Israel stood on mount Gerizim, and proclaimed, Blessed shall you be when you go out, blessed shall you be when you come in, blessed shall be the Fruit of your body, and so on. the other half of Israel stood on mount Ebal, and proclaimed Cursed shall you be when you go out, and Cursed shall you be when you come in, and Cursed shall be the Fruit of your body, and so on. Blessed shall yob if you keep my Commandments, and Cursed shall you be if you do not. This was the Covenant God had with Israel, the God of the Old Testament is the Same GOD, He was not a cruel, mean,vengeful God. What He asked them to do was not Impossible, and if they had they Would be a Peculiar people, a nation of Priest's unto God, match that with the New Testament claim, we are to be a Peculiar people, Priest's to the world to turn others back to God, through the Gospel. they were to be an Icon, when those that passed by their lands, they would see that this nation had a God that brought them pure Blessing's, and they were to turn the people back to God, by their Example.

Helen · Feb 24, 2018

I don't fear God in a fear kind of way...but I do find I can fear at the thought of a life without God. That would be no life at all.
Even before I was saved, I feared the thought of not ending up with God, I never feared "hell".
I'm not sure I have ever believed in Hell, only as a place without God.

Armadillo · Feb 24, 2018

DPMartin said:
also Jesus enjoys a Beloved Son relationship with the Father that is true, but until God the Father calls you "beloved" or even Jesus like He did with Apostle John, or the angle that visited Daniel, until you rate at that level, maybe you should heed what the scriptures say.

I know I am God's beloved, it's in my heart, and I will not bow down to your fearmongering.

Ephesians 3:17-18, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the Lord’s holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ,

If you don't how loved you are, then keep nudging whoever is loved next to you and have them ask for you.

John 13:22-24, His disciples stared at one another, at a loss to know which of them he meant. 23 One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved, was reclining next to him. 24 Simon Peter motioned to this disciple and said, “Ask him which one he means.”

Armadillo · Feb 24, 2018

DPMartin said:
Canadian Christianity: every one is entitled to believe in a god in there own image of what they think a god ought to be.

You and I believe in the same God and we are changed into His image as we behold His face, His glory.

Psalm 11:7, For the LORD is righteous, he loves justice; the upright will see his face.

2 Corinthians 3:18, And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate[a] the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

Truth · Feb 24, 2018

Armadillo said:
I know I am God's beloved, it's in my heart, and I will not bow down to your fearmongering.

Ephesians 3:17-18, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the Lord’s holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ,

If you don't how loved you are, then keep nudging whoever is loved next to you and have them ask for you.

John 13:22-24, His disciples stared at one another, at a loss to know which of them he meant. 23 One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved, was reclining next to him. 24 Simon Peter motioned to this disciple and said, “Ask him which one he means.”

Here is a Prophecy about the Son from Psalms 2: 7-12
7-"I will declare the Decree: The Lord has said to Me, You are My Son, Today I have Begotten You.
8- Ask of Me, and I will give You the Nations for Your Inheritance, And the ends of the Earth for Your Possession.
9-"You shall break them with a rod of Iron; You shall dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel."
10- Now therefore, be wise, O Kings; Be instructed, you Judges of the Earth.
11- Serve the Lord with Fear, And rejoice with Trembling.
12-"Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, And you perish in the way,When His wrath is Kindled but a little. Blessed are those who put their trust in Him!

DPMartin · Feb 26, 2018

Armadillo said:
You and I believe in the same God and we are changed into His image as we behold His face, His glory.

Psalm 11:7, For the LORD is righteous, he loves justice; the upright will see his face.

2 Corinthians 3:18, And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate[a] the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

not if you don't fear and respect the Lord God of Israel. you can say you believe in the Lord God of Israel but you tell me about your god who is not the same as the Israelites have witnessed their God and documented that relationship they have had for centuries. you are basically telling me they don't know their God, you know better. so no I'm not convinced you worship their God, if you are trying convince me you do.

anyone can copy and past scripture, but your statements are contrary to scripture as a whole.

and no I can't tell you about your god and your relationship with it, but I can tell you about the God of Israel, because it written right in the bible by those who know the God of Israel hence "their God".

DPMartin · Feb 26, 2018

Armadillo said:
I know I am God's beloved, it's in my heart, and I will not bow down to your fearmongering.

Ephesians 3:17-18, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the Lord’s holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ,

If you don't how loved you are, then keep nudging whoever is loved next to you and have them ask for you.

John 13:22-24, His disciples stared at one another, at a loss to know which of them he meant. 23 One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved, was reclining next to him. 24 Simon Peter motioned to this disciple and said, “Ask him which one he means.”

you can say anything about yourself on the internet you want, or aren't we supposed to realize that? but what the bible says God is, and like is true internet or not.

DPMartin · Feb 26, 2018

Happiness: OED

The state of pleasurable content of mind, which results from success or the attainment of what is considered good.

Happiness Internet:

the state of being happy.

synonyms: pleasure, contentment, satisfaction, cheerfulness, merriment, gaiety, joy, joyfulness, joviality, jollity, glee, delight, good spirits, lightheartedness, well-being, enjoyment;

it seems many think God is to be equated with what one considers happiness and everything else that doesn’t satisfy their need for happiness is evil.

Hence, they wouldn’t be happy to fear God (as the bible instructs many times over) therefore that can’t be their god in their own judgement of what their god is, because by all intents and purposes their god is to make them happy, what they considered good.

Armadillo · Feb 26, 2018

Motivation is by love not fear. One chooses to go all the way with Moses or with Jesus and since I don't live in an Old Testament world and geography, Israel, isn't my promise, I'll lay hold of eternal life.

The Apostle Paul preaches Grace and if one can't line up with what he says then scripture gets twisted.

DP, I am sorry to read that I insulted you by writing we worship the same God and I will never apologize to you for writing how good and how beautiful God is. I trust Him, will never fear him and will boldly go into the throne room.

Have a nice day

Helen · Feb 26, 2018

Armadillo said:
Motivation is by love not fear.

Agree...who wants to be the Bride of a fearful, overbearing, vengeful husband.

Armadillo · Feb 26, 2018

DPMartin said:
Happiness: OED

The state of pleasurable content of mind, which results from success or the attainment of what is considered good.

Happiness Internet:

the state of being happy.

synonyms: pleasure, contentment, satisfaction, cheerfulness, merriment, gaiety, joy, joyfulness, joviality, jollity, glee, delight, good spirits, lightheartedness, well-being, enjoyment;

it seems many think God is to be equated with what one considers happiness and everything else that doesn’t satisfy their need for happiness is evil.

Hence, they wouldn’t be happy to fear God (as the bible instructs many times over) therefore that can’t be their god in their own judgement of what their god is, because by all intents and purposes their god is to make them happy, what they considered good.

Happiness is fleeting, joy is everlasting.

Truth · Feb 26, 2018

All mankind are Created Equal, and are endowed with unalienable right's by Their Creator, these are God Given Right's, To Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness! 1- Life - no one has the right to take anyone's LIFE. 2- Liberty - No man , or Government, or any Authority has right to deny anyone their Freedom, or Liberty. 3 - Pursuit of Happiness - we have the right to try to find, and take hold of that which we consider happiness, but according to our founding forefathers that was to govern ourselves according to the Scriptures. All God given right's come with God given Responsibility's, to which if we do not consider the outcome of our behavior, by the Judgement of God, and Savior, then we do not fear the Wrath to come!! and by whom it will come.

DPMartin · Feb 28, 2018

Truth said:
All mankind are Created Equal, and are endowed with unalienable right's by Their Creator, these are God Given Right's, To Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness! 1- Life - no one has the right to take anyone's LIFE. 2- Liberty - No man , or Government, or any Authority has right to deny anyone their Freedom, or Liberty. 3 - Pursuit of Happiness - we have the right to try to find, and take hold of that which we consider happiness, but according to our founding forefathers that was to govern ourselves according to the Scriptures. All God given right's come with God given Responsibility's, to which if we do not consider the outcome of our behavior, by the Judgement of God, and Savior, then we do not fear the Wrath to come!! and by whom it will come.

I'm sorry truth but these things are a declaration of a group of men in agreement, but scriptural? where does the bible say these things? the statement "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is an agreement amongst men, not men and God.

and who decides what life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is according to the declaration of independence? its a view of a nation not necessarily God's views. the people of this nation that has this declaration can't agree who or what the Creator is nor can it agree there is one.

again where is the scripture that says this is true, that men are entitled life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? no one is entitled their next breath my friend, let alone such things as life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. what the Government proposed by the continental congress has done is declare they agree to honor and protect the life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness of its citizen of the newly formed government as though it the citizen's unalienable right.

but as far as who and what to fear yea you're on the mark on that, and I would point out that its because in truth no one has a right or claim to anything of God's creation seeing it's God's, and not ours. even the life of dust to dust is something that belongs to God just as the air you breath and just as the water you drink and the foods you eat.

and life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is about this life in the dirt and how this nation values it, which has nothing to do with valuing the Life of Christ.

Truth · Feb 28, 2018

DPMartin said:
I'm sorry truth but these things are a declaration of a group of men in agreement, but scriptural? where does the bible say these things? the statement "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is an agreement amongst men, not men and God.

and who decides what life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is according to the declaration of independence? its a view of a nation not necessarily God's views. the people of this nation that has this declaration can't agree who or what the Creator is nor can it agree there is one.

again where is the scripture that says this is true, that men are entitled life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? no one is entitled their next breath my friend, let alone such things as life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. what the Government proposed by the continental congress has done is declare they agree to honor and protect the life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness of its citizen of the newly formed government as though it the citizen's unalienable right.

but as far as who and what to fear yea you're on the mark on that, and I would point out that its because in truth no one has a right or claim to anything of God's creation seeing it's God's, and not ours. even the life of dust to dust is something that belongs to God just as the air you breath and just as the water you drink and the foods you eat.

and life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is about this life in the dirt and how this nation values it, which has nothing to do with valuing the Life of Christ.

SOOOOOO, did I declare that this was from Scripture, My statement was to bring about the Fact that all people should Govern themselves by Scripture! And if we do not Govern ourselves by Scripture, and we continue with behavior unacceptable to God and Savior, to which the outcome of such, not fearing the wrath to come, and by whom it will come! the Thread is about fear of God, those that claim they do not fear, because they feel that they are sealed in Christ, should always understand that there is a wrath to come, and God and Savior are the Scales that will Judge who is Acquitted from such Judgement!

those who think that God shouldn't be feared, are fools

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