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Triumph1300

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Why would Jesus call people - "hypocrites," "fools," or"children of hell"? Did He have a bad spirit? What was He trying to prove by doing so?

No, Jesus did not have a "bad spirit." Of course not! He was and is the Son of God Who is perfect, without sin, and can do no wrong.

Then what was He trying to prove by entering into this practice? Was He setting a precedent for us - giving us an excuse to call people who get on our "last nerve" - "You fool, hypocrite, or serpent!"?

Being the Omniscient God that He is, He infallibly knows what is in man. Hence, He knows when people are sincere or phonies.

Throughout Matthew 23, we find Him renouncing the Pharisees - using various derogatory names. In using them against these religious leaders, it was not His intent to manifest hatred, resentment, wrath, or malice toward them for opposing His ministry. He simply called them names in order to reveal to them their true character and in hopes that they would "wake up" and repent of their sins.

In Matthew 23:15, He called them - "hypocrites" - simply because they were stage-players in religion. They were show-offs, frauds, and impersonators. They were acting the part of someone who is holy. Under the mask of godliness, they hid their polluted hearts. Their whole life was a lie.

In Matthew 23:15, He referred to them as being a - "child of hell." He mentioned that their converts were "twofold more the child of hell than yourselves." "Child of hell" was a Talmudic phrase - a Hebraism for an excessively wicked person who might very easily claim Hell for his Mother and the devil for his father. It was one who was fitted and destined for Hell.

In Matthew 23:16, He called them - "blind guides." These who professed to be "guides of the blind"(Romans 2:19), He was calling the total opposite - "blind guides." They professed to be leaders but were themselves blind because they closed their eyes to the Truth and became ignorant of divine things.

In Matthew 23:17, He called them - "fools." Didn't He say in Matthew 5:22 that if you call your brother a "fool," then you would be "in danger of hell fire"? Was He contradicting Himself here or breaking His own law in doing so? No, He was not maliciously calling them "fools" in a fit of rage or anger. He referred to them as such to open their eyes to their own stupidity, irrationality, absurdity, and moral delinquency. Their minds were so blinded by their love for money that they weren't thinking "straight" or reasoning rationally.

In Matthew 23:27, He called them - "whited sepulchres." On the fifteenth day of the month Adair - right before the Passover feast - the Jews would whitewash all the spots where the graves of the poor were situated in the fields or along the roadsides. They did this practice in order to beautify these graves or to alert the pilgrims to the areas where the dead lay. On their way to keeping the Feast of Passover, they did not want to be defiled through contact with the dead. Jesus referred to the Pharisees in this manner because - on the outside like the "whited sepulchres" they appeared pure and clean - but on the inside, they were filled with death.

In Matthew 23:28, He told them that they were - "full of...iniquity." This came as a great insult to these pretenders of holiness and righteousness.

In Matthew 23:33, He called them - "serpents" and a "generation of vipers." They were as deadly as serpents in that they expressed craft and subtlety and were of a venomous nature. They were a generation of envenomed, enraged, and spiteful adversaries to Him and His ministry.

In Matthew 23:34, He prophesied that they were - "murderers" - because they would "kill" the "prophets," "wise men," and "scribes" that He would send unto them.

In calling these religious leaders all these names, the Lord Jesus did not react in anger or malice toward these opposers. Instead, He declared their true character in hopes that they would come face-to-face with the Truth about themselves and repent.
 

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Agree...the same as when He called Peter Satan...and said "get behind Me"..
He saw "in them" and who was "using them", = the devil behind them and behind their actions.
 
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Once out on a job with the engineering company I worked for, a backhoe operator whom I did not know, began to curse me up and down for no apparent reason. Others there were as shocked as I. However I recognized it as the devils that lived in him.

They didn't like the Jesus in me. Just a straight up spiritual conflict.
 

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Sure. I was witnessing on the street after midnight in Hot Springs during he racing season. I was talking to a backslidden Christian outside a 7-11 store. A car pulled up beside us and the driver left the car running. Before going in he turned up the radio as loud as it would go! I told the man I was talking to "did you see that?" that's the way the devil works, he wanted to interrupt this talk about the Lord. The man was taken aback and said he noticed the odd act.

We can mention Jesus and their knees knock like castinets.
 
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Sure. I was witnessing on the street after midnight in Hot Springs during he racing season. I was talking to a backslidden Christian outside a 7-11 store. A car pulled up beside us and the driver left the car running. Before going in he turned up the radio as loud as it would go! I told the man I was talking to "did you see that?" that's the way the devil works, he wanted to interrupt this talk about the Lord. The man was taken aback and said he noticed the odd act.

We can mention Jesus and their knees knock like castinets.

I'm not worried much about encountering a devil or an evil spirit from a spirit world even during midnight. All those vampire movies on TV make them look like a fiction :D.

I'm more concerned and troubled with those who are eager to do exactly the opposite when they hear the Word of God or something good from another christian. And then they shameless pretend that nothing has gone wrong and they are better than those who are sincerely trying to live a righteous life. I've seen such people more than once in my life. I throw them out of my personal life as soon as I can.

Proverbs 26
12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

All glory to God.
 

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IF you are baptized in the Holy Spirit AND prayed up, AND have a short account with the Lord then we have might with God to stand against the devil.

I do not fear him BUT I see him working through others in Word and deed. Be assured he will try and hinder every witness you try to make. Whether it be face to face, or a biblical post.

The longer you live as a Christian the more of his devices you will see. But you MUST stay in prayer - with the understanding and by the spirit - tongues, the prayer language given you. I have seen much healing and delicerance wrought while praying in the spirit.

Friends you MUST cleave to Jesus with your might. My family has been seemingly forced to live a wilderness life style for the past 40 years. The churches we attended in past years have become so liberal that they are not worth attending. The prosperity cult seems to have infected many assemblies in America. I refuse to hear the gospel turned to a method of gaining wealth.

I actually prayed with tears for God never to make me rich. This after seeing my friends pierce themselves through with MANY sorrows pursuing Almighty dollar. So far He has answered my prayers! LOL!

RIGHT before I typed this my wife was beset with terrible chest pains. We've dealt with this before and she had a heart stint placed in a clogged artery. We prayed in the spirit, with our understanding, praised and cryed out to God, quoted scriptures, laid on hands and I anointed with oil. We had to BATTLE but the Lord gave us victory. Thus has been our spiritual existence for these years in the wilderness.

Deuteronomy 2:7 KJVS
For the Lord thy God hath blessed thee in all the works of thy hand: he knoweth thy walking through this great wilderness: these forty years the Lord thy God hath been with thee; thou hast lacked nothing.

It so happens I have been saved for 40 years this past fall. We've NEVER depended upon others but always hung onto Jesus for our very lives. I am not ashamed to ask for prayer from others and do so. But many times the need is NOW. And we need help right then, not later.

You must learn to grip the garments of Jesus with your might. If not right now then down the road you're going to need Him like never before. This is a truth for every believer. Man is born unto trouble as sparks fly up from a fire.

Many are the afflictions of the righteous but the Lord delivereth him out of them all Psalm 34 :19
 

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I actually prayed with tears for God never to make me rich. This after seeing my friends pierce themselves through with MANY sorrows pursuing Almighty dollar. So far He has answered my prayers! LOL!

Before my husband was saved he used to gamble on the the British Football.
I too used to pray.." Oh Lord please don't let him win." :)
Too much money and the worry over money can be a prison.
We do have two very rich friends...one of them is always so worried about his money...such a burden.
God has always supplied our needs. Praise His name.
 

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"Fools" are discussed at a detail in the book of proverbs. Even there it was referring to people right! why do you think someone should not refer to another as a fool when they behave that way?
i would say mostly because God is the head of Christ, but we should not be so quick to claim this relationship for ourselves, although i guess that is arguable. Aren't we told not to be calling people fools, in other passages?
Matthew 5:22 Lexicon: "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.
 

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Friends you MUST cleave to Jesus with your might. My family has been seemingly forced to live a wilderness life style for the past 40 years. The churches we attended in past years have become so liberal that they are not worth attending. The prosperity cult seems to have infected many assemblies in America. I refuse to hear the gospel turned to a method of gaining wealth.

Well said, Frank.
 

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i would say mostly because God is the head of Christ, but we should not be so quick to claim this relationship for ourselves, although i guess that is arguable. Aren't we told not to be calling people fools, in other passages?
Matthew 5:22 Lexicon: "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.

Point: "When said in anger."
 
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Ephesians 4:26 instructs us “in your anger do not sin” and not to let the sun go down on our anger. The command is not to “avoid anger” (or suppress it or ignore it) but to deal with it properly, in a timely manner.
well, that is a diff subject now, and i don't disagree with you here; but i would be directed here more to examine why i am angry than to attempt to justify it. after all--to stretch a parable--wouldn't you rather be cheated?