@Bread of Life
I said.....
19th century new enough for you? Or how about pre Vatican 2? I am sure I could find some evidence of Rome calling one such as I a heretic if I dug deep enough. Why, I think if I ventured onto a Catholic operated forum and spoke openly of my beliefs the charge of heresy would be very quick in coming.
Your response was....
WRONG.
Your lack of homework keeps digging you into a deeper hole.
the definition of a "heretic" is a CATHOLIC who espouses heresy - NOT a Protestant who espouses heresy.
I short - you have to be a Catholic to be considered a heretic by the Catholic Church.
Your Protestant Fathers were all CATHOLICS, and were therefore, considered to he heretics.
Do your homework . . .
I was a Catholic...the old saying 'once a Catholic always a Catholic" is a Catholic tradition. If I ventured into a Catholic forum, I would be branded a heretic. Period. Thing is though BOL, it wasn't just heretics that Catholics were warring against was it. The Albigenses, the Waldenses, The Celtic church in Britain, the Hugenoets, the Hussites, the Lollards, the Goths, Vandals, and Heruli, all groups of people who were Christian, but different. That difference, and their refusal to bow and submit to a pagan emperor posing as a bishop, brought war.
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Sure. The Way
No, Brakelite - you don't get to pass the buck.
I asked YOU to show me where the BIBLE says to come out of the Catholic Church.
If YOU can't show me that - then, you're just another angry little anti-Catholic with ZERO evidence . . .
BOL, stop presuming. First you assume I was not Catholic, then you presume I am giving you a lead to someone elses writing. The link 'The Way' is to my blog. My article, original. In that article you will find an exegetical study that clearly and profoundly points an unerring finger at the Papacy, the RCC, as being the prime stake-holder (pun not intended) of Babylon the Great Inc. Minor shareholders are the Lutherans, the Anglicans, with others being added daily as your church's daughters/separated brethren (how appropriate) return to mother.
A woman in prophecy is the a symbol of God's people. A pure woman such as that in Revelation 12, a pure church, such as those remnant true believers at the time of Christ's birth, a harlot woman an apostate church, such as the woman in Revelation 17. This woman in Revelation 17, Babylon the Great, is an apostate church riding a beast, which in prophecy designates a nation/civil power/ or state. The church is holding the reins, the state is subservient to her wishes, going where she directs. The state is used as her puppet in legislating church dogma, and her proxy in putting to death those who don't submit to those laws. This woman is a persecuting woman. Drunk with the blood of the saints. So she persecutes Christians. Her cup is full of abominations and filth of her fornication...her practices and false teachings. Her adultery is in joining with the kings of the earth instead of her former husband, Christ. She is dressed in purple and scarlet colour. She is greatly wealthy. And she blasphemes. There are two definitive descriptions of blasphemy in scripture...both charges being laid at the feet of Jesus by the Pharisees. One was that He forgave sin. "Who can forgive sin but God alone?". The answer was obvious, no-one, but Jesus is God right? The second was the charge of claiming to be God. Of claiming to have the prerogatives and authority that belong only to God. It may have passed your notice, because I sense you are not one to look honestly in the mirror, but the above description of that whore is an apt description of Rome. So, God calls His people to come out, because He is going to judge her. Soon. There is NO-ONE, not an indiviidual, not a religion, not a government, that is so well presented in scripture as that final and ultimate expression of the Antichrist. Growing up from being the little horn in Daniel 7, to being the composite beast in Revelation 13, and now the fully matured whore of Revelation 17. Come out of her BOL, lest you be judged along with her.
Associated with that article if you scroll to the bottom you will find similar articles showing different perspectives, but drawing the same conclusion.
I said.....
19th century new enough for you? Or how about pre Vatican 2? I am sure I could find some evidence of Rome calling one such as I a heretic if I dug deep enough. Why, I think if I ventured onto a Catholic operated forum and spoke openly of my beliefs the charge of heresy would be very quick in coming.
Your response was....
WRONG.
Your lack of homework keeps digging you into a deeper hole.
the definition of a "heretic" is a CATHOLIC who espouses heresy - NOT a Protestant who espouses heresy.
I short - you have to be a Catholic to be considered a heretic by the Catholic Church.
Your Protestant Fathers were all CATHOLICS, and were therefore, considered to he heretics.
Do your homework . . .
I was a Catholic...the old saying 'once a Catholic always a Catholic" is a Catholic tradition. If I ventured into a Catholic forum, I would be branded a heretic. Period. Thing is though BOL, it wasn't just heretics that Catholics were warring against was it. The Albigenses, the Waldenses, The Celtic church in Britain, the Hugenoets, the Hussites, the Lollards, the Goths, Vandals, and Heruli, all groups of people who were Christian, but different. That difference, and their refusal to bow and submit to a pagan emperor posing as a bishop, brought war.
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Sure. The Way
No, Brakelite - you don't get to pass the buck.
I asked YOU to show me where the BIBLE says to come out of the Catholic Church.
If YOU can't show me that - then, you're just another angry little anti-Catholic with ZERO evidence . . .
BOL, stop presuming. First you assume I was not Catholic, then you presume I am giving you a lead to someone elses writing. The link 'The Way' is to my blog. My article, original. In that article you will find an exegetical study that clearly and profoundly points an unerring finger at the Papacy, the RCC, as being the prime stake-holder (pun not intended) of Babylon the Great Inc. Minor shareholders are the Lutherans, the Anglicans, with others being added daily as your church's daughters/separated brethren (how appropriate) return to mother.
A woman in prophecy is the a symbol of God's people. A pure woman such as that in Revelation 12, a pure church, such as those remnant true believers at the time of Christ's birth, a harlot woman an apostate church, such as the woman in Revelation 17. This woman in Revelation 17, Babylon the Great, is an apostate church riding a beast, which in prophecy designates a nation/civil power/ or state. The church is holding the reins, the state is subservient to her wishes, going where she directs. The state is used as her puppet in legislating church dogma, and her proxy in putting to death those who don't submit to those laws. This woman is a persecuting woman. Drunk with the blood of the saints. So she persecutes Christians. Her cup is full of abominations and filth of her fornication...her practices and false teachings. Her adultery is in joining with the kings of the earth instead of her former husband, Christ. She is dressed in purple and scarlet colour. She is greatly wealthy. And she blasphemes. There are two definitive descriptions of blasphemy in scripture...both charges being laid at the feet of Jesus by the Pharisees. One was that He forgave sin. "Who can forgive sin but God alone?". The answer was obvious, no-one, but Jesus is God right? The second was the charge of claiming to be God. Of claiming to have the prerogatives and authority that belong only to God. It may have passed your notice, because I sense you are not one to look honestly in the mirror, but the above description of that whore is an apt description of Rome. So, God calls His people to come out, because He is going to judge her. Soon. There is NO-ONE, not an indiviidual, not a religion, not a government, that is so well presented in scripture as that final and ultimate expression of the Antichrist. Growing up from being the little horn in Daniel 7, to being the composite beast in Revelation 13, and now the fully matured whore of Revelation 17. Come out of her BOL, lest you be judged along with her.
Associated with that article if you scroll to the bottom you will find similar articles showing different perspectives, but drawing the same conclusion.
