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ha, i just love how "we" is invoked whenever it suits someone's purpose lol
We'll congregate in heaven one day.
how bout let's be honest and admit that this describes virtually zero Christians that anyone here, "we," can witness of
so you say, but you cannot Quote this wadr.
boy, i dunno, i gotta go with Imelda on this one, why love Jesus when you can love Love?
Why do you think believing in heaven is satanic?so you say, but you cannot Quote this wadr.
Oh wait, there is a church song, you could quote it from that i guess,
"when we all get to heaven
what a day of rejoicing that will be!
when we all see Jesus
we"ll sing and shout the victory!"
straight from satan himself, i guess
boy, i dunno, i gotta go with Imelda on this one, why love Jesus when you can love Love?
no offense, but these days when i hear "i love Jesus" from most ppl, i know to keep my hand on my wallet!
ah, well i didn't say that, but that this "we'll congregate in heaven one day" is not what the Bible or Christ says
yes, but see how this can also be read "I'm leaving so that you will have a place to manifest, to pick up your cross, and follow Me. Otherwise, you will just keep trying to put a crown on Me, and yikes as it is I'm still going to get a gaggle of candle-lighters and a bunch of Greek worshippers, no matter how much i hide from them"
well, He "gave up the spirit" over 2000 years ago, yet here we are talking about Him still, so imo He lives where the kingdom of God is, the only place that matters i guess
There are two kingdoms:
ok i guess there are two kingdoms from our pov, so i can't really disagree in a sense; but your "two kingdoms" seems diff from the Methodist doctrine "two kingdoms," and to me both seem to disagree with As above, so below?
imo this fails whenever we restrict God to a place in the way we understand that term. If you insist that there is a "place" where God dwells, then heaven is simultaneously bound to creation (physically) and kept divided from it spiritually, unless you start imagining alt realities (physical) or alt futures that you cannot verify, seems to me anyway; misinterpreted Scripture surely meant to be applied to "as soon as you change your mind, and get a revelation" notwithstanding imo.
