giulty challenger ? Exo 22:9

VictoryinJesus said:

In context; it sounds like Christ.

Exodus 22:5-9
[5] If a man shall cause a field or vineyard to be eaten, and shall put in his beast, and shall feed in another man's field; of the best of his own field, and of the best of his own vineyard, shall he make restitution.

He was judged in our place and made "restitution".

[6] If fire break out, and catch in thorns, so that the stacks of corn, or the standing corn, or the field, be consumed therewith ; he that kindled the fire shall surely make restitution.

Remember: Luke 12:49
[49] I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

[7] If a man shall deliver unto his neighbour money or stuff to keep, and it be stolen out of the man's house; if the thief be found, let him pay double.
[8] If the thief be not found, then the master of the house shall be brought unto the judges, to see whether he have put his hand unto his neighbour's goods. [9] For all manner of trespass, whether it be for ox, for ass, for sheep, for raiment, or for any manner of lost thing, which another challengeth to be his, the cause of both parties shall come before the judges; and whom the judges shall condemn, he shall pay double unto his neighbour.

The judges condemned the innocent and He said not a word.

Luke 24:20
[20] And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him.

1 Peter 2:23-24
[23] Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: [24] Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

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Windmillcharge said:

It always helps to reread any passage one has problems with in a modern english version.
Biblegateway enables one to read numerous translations.

This is part of a passage title protection of property, and is about how to resolve a despute over who owns what stolen property.
In Hebrew law it is common for the guilty party to have to pay back twice to five times the value of the lost, stolen or destroyed goods. It is also why slavery was accepted as they had no prisons so a bankrupt theif would be sold to make payment.

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Windmillcharge said:

As compensation for the goods he stole. It is not a case of being accused of lieing, but of being accused of stealing.

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VictoryinJesus said:

Okay, you are probably going to completely ignore what I ask you to consider but: you have to ask when did we make a covenant with death? When did we agree with hell?

Isaiah 28:18
[18] And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

As they (His people) went into bondage in Egypt, as Joseph was sold into bondage, so we also were sold into bondage. And God pleaded with Pharaoh to let His people go, and God pleaded with the Pharisees and the strong bonds of the religious as He walked among those He referred to as children of the devil: to let go the poor, the widows, the broken with no shepherd so they might have a true shepherd and serve Him. He broke in and spoiled Satan's house. As a thief he came and took a spoil. What He purchased and bought by blood. So it is His. And He was wrongly accused. A fire was kindled and fire came from above and burnt through man's religion. You are asking about Judges and falsely accusing...put Christ at the center. You say there is no way The Lord connects to your verse but the "volume" proves there is a good chance you are wrong:

Hebrews 10:7
[7] Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

Beast of the field, fowls of heaven, creeping things of the ground (it is unclean men without God). A grace covenant (NT) with that which was unclean.

Hosea 2:18-23
[18] And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely. [19] And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies. [20] I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the Lord . [21] And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the Lord , I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth; [22] And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and they shall hear Jezreel. [23] And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

Sow who? "Jezreel".
That God would have mercy on her that had not obtained mercy.

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VictoryinJesus said:

somehow, every time I try to share something with you or reply to your post :it always comes out meaning the opposite of what was intended. I never meant to imply the OT (The Torah) is religion. I was only suggesting the verse you asked about; the law, and all the sacrifices have to do with Christ and to see how Exodus 22:9 connects to Him. You say it doesn't, then okay, you have made it clear. By no means was I trying to do you any harm...

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Windmillcharge said:

It is not the accuser who is condemned but who ever is guilty.

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