Greatest War the World has ever Seen coming very Soon!

charlesj said:

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I will "paste" a short study on "Some Tools To Dig With" that I wrote some years ago in a "reply" to this reply.

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SOME TOOLS TO DIG WITH.

“Apocalyptic speech is something “we moderns” have dug up…apocalyptic speech is lurid in its colors and very often violent in its tone. It strikes the imagination and grabs hold of the mind. Who, having read of it, can forget the seven-headed sea beast or the scarlet prostitute on its back? Whose mind does not boggle over the falling of the stars and the rolling up of the heavens? Apocalyptic speech is vivid and easily remembered. It appeals to our imagination. It is the language of conflict and victory. It is the language used when God smites the oppressor and vindicates his people. It is the language of crisis if not of persecution.” -Jim McGuiggan, Book of Revelation, p. 14

The Hebrew mind understands these things, but we with the “western mind” draw wrong conclusions many times.

Sun, Moon, Stars and Clouds in prophecy:

We first see evidence of the definition of the sun, moon and stars in Genesis 37 where we run across Joseph. At this time, Joseph is a young man and is having dreams etc. He dreams a dream and tells it to his father:

Genesis 37:9-10

9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. 10 And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth? KJV

Notice: Joseph dreams that the SUN, MOON AND STARS will bow down to him. (We with our “western minds” don’t see this)

-his father (verse 9, a Hebrew) immediately knows what these elements represent and rebukes Joseph.
-the sun, moon and stars represented the household of Jacob.
-the sun represented Jacob the father, the moon his mother and the stars represented his brothers.

Later, this prophecy was fulfilled when Joseph was in Egypt and in a high government position and his family did bow to him.
The sun represented the head of the house, a leader of the house.
In scripture you may run across the sun, moon and stars mentioned. Take a good look at the context. If the context is speaking in prophecy, then most likely the sun, moon and stars represent the government of that country.

Isaiah 13:10

10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine. KJV

The Lord is speaking here in Isa 13:10 of the destruction of Babylon. He used an army (clouds) to do His will.

Isaiah 19:1 The burden of Egypt. Behold, the LORD rideth upon a swift cloud, and shall come into Egypt: and the idols of Egypt shall be moved at his presence, and the heart of Egypt shall melt in the midst of it.

Here again, In Isaiah 19:1ff the Lord is speaking of “riding a swift cloud” to destroy Egypt. An army fulfilled this. The point is, that the Lord, in prophetic speech, speaks of “coming in the clouds, or riding a swift cloud” when really He is speaking of using a nations army to destroy another nation. In Isaiah, it is evident that the prophet is talking about the conquest of Egypt by an army that is doing the will of God.

Matthew 24:29
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: KJV

Here, in Matthew you see a reference to the fall of the Jewish nation in 70 A.D. The sun, moon and stars are made up of the Sanhedrin, that is, the high priests, scribes (some Pharisees) and elders. These made up the ruler ship of Israel at this time.
It has been referred to as the “last days, the last hour” in the New Testament and happened in 70 A.D. when Titus, the Roman general, came and destroyed the temple and Jerusalem.


This was fulfilled when the Lord “came on clouds” (Roman army) and destroyed the temple and city. Messiah told them when they see (Matt 24:15) the abomination of desolation (destruction) spoken of by the prophet Daniel then know the time is near. The synoptic parallel to Matt 24:15 is Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. (Email me on this, I have a whole writing on Matthew 24, verse by verse.) [email protected]

So, Jesus told them when you see the Roman army (Gentile army, an abomination) surrounding Jerusalem, then you will know the desolation (destruction) is near

Matthew 26:64

64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. KJV

In Matthew 26 Christ promised the high priest, Caiaphas, that he would see him coming on the clouds.

He saw this in the fulfillment of the Roman army, doing the will of God, through Titus in 70 A.D. “Coming in clouds, sun, moon and stars all are “judgement language” for the Hebrews. (We miss this with our western minds)

Like in Noah’s time, a new age was started. Jesus brought in a new age (New Relationship) in which those that have been “born from above” (born again) have been added to the bride of Christ, the Assembly (The church, Acts 2:47). Their names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life and they enter into that great city as described by the Hebrew writer: (This great city is all those righteous in Heaven from Adam to today’s time and growing daily.

Hebrews 12:22-23 22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

This city (Universal Church in heaven) is made up of all the righteous from the time of Adam until the present time – and is growing daily. PRAISE HIS NAME!! (When one is “born again” they are added to the universal church in heaven. After being born again, they later “join” a church here on earth.)

Acts 2:20
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: KJV

These statements means “the end of the world” to a premillennialist, but this is not what the bible is teaching. It is not the end of time (world), but the time of the end of the age. (Old Covenant age, THE JEWISH rule).

Mountains = Kingdoms

Jeremiah 51:24-26 24 And I will render unto Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, saith Jehovah. 25 Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith Jehovah, which destroyest all the earth; and I will stretch out my hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain. 26 And they shall not take of thee a stone for a corner, nor a stone for foundations; but thou shalt be desolate for ever, saith Jehovah.

Here in Jeremiah 51 the defeat and destruction of Babylon is pictured by making a destroying mountain (apparently a volcano) into a “burnt-out” mountain. The term “MOUNTAIN” is used over and over again to stand for a kingdom, as for example, in Amos 4:1 and Isaiah 2:2.


WINDS:

The “winds” are often used to indicate the “activity of God.”
The Greek or Hebrew word could have been translated “wind or spirit.”
“Wind” is constantly associated with God and the activity of God.

For example look at John 3:7,8 "Do not marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born again. The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit."

Sometimes the “winds” are used as actions by God against people:

"When you cry out, let your collection of idols deliver you. But the wind will carry all of them up, And a breath will take them away. But he who takes refuge in Me shall inherit the land,And shall possess My holy mountain." -Isaiah57:13.

“Like an east wind I will scatter them Before the enemy; I will show them My back and not My face In the day of their calamity.'" –Jeremiah 18:17

Or, like where the Hebrew writer Hebrew writer quotes Psalm 104:4 in Hebrews 1:7 “And of the angels He says, "Who makes His angels winds, And His ministers a flame of fire.”
God rides on the cherubim (Psalm 18:10 & elsewhere) and also walks on the wings of the wind. .

THE POINT HERE IS “WIND” IS CONSTANTLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE ACTIVITY OF GOD.

These “SYMBOLS” are a part of the Bible’s way of teaching.

I have more to say, but will say it later. If you are interested, then email me: [email protected]

Friends; The email for EndTimes Ministries/ End Times Inc is:
endtimes(at)endtimes dot com

Leads me to speculate that they're under a bit of pressure to produce content about the end times?

Jay Ross said:

If you have no idea about what is happening with respect to biblical prophecy, then how will you be able to, one day, know that it has happened if you have no understanding of when or what has to happen for the prophetical End Time Prophecies to be fulfilled.

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I guess that I should say...back in the sixties we attended many many meeting on the Prophetic. We did much study on the Prophetic. We prayed about the Prophesies. We thought that we had it all "down pat" word perfect.
Knew it all.
So, now 50yrs later in the 2000's I will still maintain that we can only know to the best of our understanding...which to me, is nothing more than an opinion. and, most of the 'understanding' that I have heard cannot in any way be 'written in stone' as to being what will really happen.

Personally. I believe now, with all prophesy it is only when it actually happens we will then say to each other- "Aah...this is that which was spoken by the prophets..." A confirmation of what is happening.
In my own life, I try as much as I can to "live ready" at all times.
We've read and know the prophecies....as for the outworking and the timing.... we stay in the Spirit and have our ears pricked and open to hear His voice.
Sorry if I offended you.

@ByGrace you did not offend me, really, you showed that you are not able to see what has already happened around you and that has saddened me.

The Seventh Bowl judgement has already been completely fulfilled, but you are looking for an "earthquake" to occur in somewhere, possible in Jerusalem which will not happen in association with this prophecy. The same Greek word which is translated in Revelation 16:18 twice as "earthquake," is translated as "tempest" n Matthew 8:24 when Jesus was asleep in the boat as they were crossing the Lake of Galilee. When translator of the original language texts available, translate the same Greek Word in, sometimes many ways, all that they do is create confusion within the body of believers, because one will prefer the KJV to the NIV etc, and believe that their preferred translated version is infallible. However, if we substitute the English word "turmoil" in place of the word "tempest" into the translated text, then the passage makes perfect sense. Matthew, the writer of the Gospel, was describing the turmoil of the wave during the storm cause by the wind and the wave reflections of the shorelines around the Lake of Galilee. If the same Greek word in Matthew 8:24 is not understood to have the meaning of earthquake, then, the same is true for Revelation 16:16 where this same Greek word appears twice.

Now this revelation of the Greek word with the embedded Greek Root word G:4578 only happened within the last two or so months for me which makes what I have written a new revelation for others as well.

That means that if the seventh Bowl Judgement has already been fulfilled, then the order of the seven bowl judgements should be considered quite seriously as occurring in the reverse order to the order in which they are presented. That means that we are searching for the first bowl judgement to occur first when in reality it will be the last of the Bowl Judgements to occur.

Now, because I have switched around the order of the Bowl Judgements, then we should be able to see the Sixth Bowl Judgement unfolding at this present time. The 9/11 events was the fulfilment of part of the Sixth Bowl Judgement as the final outcome of this Bowl Judgement is the Gathering of the Kings of the Earth at Armageddon to be Judged. The outcome of the Sixth Bowl Judgement is drawing closer and closer at this present time, however, around 40 years is required for mankind to change his mind from one understanding to another.

A Biblical heresy when it is introduced often time becomes acceptable doctrine within about 40 years. Israel being the church's friend to becoming the church's enemy will occur over a period of around 40 years. When that occurs, then there will be no impediments for all of the kings of the earth to gather at Armageddon to bring the rebellious state of Israel to heed the rest of the world and to accept their demands. This event is also the fulfilment of the Prophecy of the 2,300 years of the Heathen Gentiles trampling God's sanctuary.

Unless we begin to understand, we will not see. It is not in our dreams so to speak, it is the recorded/written word of God.

Shalom

Jay Ross said:

The Seventh Bowl judgement has already been completely fulfilled, but you are looking for an "earthquake" to occur in somewhere, possible in Jerusalem which will not happen in association with this prophecy.

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Do WHAT!!!!

I am not "looking for" anything Jay. ( Only to God Himself)

So how on earth can you get the above quote out of what I actually said in the quote of mine below????

"ByGrace" said:

In my own life, I try as much as I can to "live ready" at all times.
We've read and know the prophecies....as for the outworking and the timing.... we stay in the Spirit and have our ears pricked and open to hear His voice.
Sorry if I offended you.

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Does that sound like I am "looking anywhere" but to God.?

Many blessing Jay.....Helen.

aspen said:

I expect mercy over judgment every time. I dont think we should expect anything less based on Gods character.

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God's character? I know where you are trying to go Aspen. And a message of love is never wrong. But it is not complete. Because if you do not recognize ALL of God's character you misrepresent him.
This is tough, and I want to walk through it, but I'm afraid of waffling a little. I'll try anyway.
I'm sure you've heard the example of "what if someone murdered your child? wouldn't you want to punish him, get justice?"
I'm sure you would reply that the best thing to do, the Christ-like thing, would be to forgive this murderer; to show him mercy.
But is that supposing he is repentant of killing your child? What if he is not? Do we still forgive? The bible tells us yes! But...the bible also tells us forgiveness is for us, just as much as the other person. So we don't become hard and bitter. So we don't become hypocrites.
We know that God does not need to forgive for such reasons. He does not get bitter, or hard. He is never a hypocrite. He is not human, or sinful.
Let's forget about our personal needs in this instance. What if this man was not only not repentant, he was gleeful of his murder and confesses he plans to do it again? Would you still (forgetting about the court system for a while), forgive him and let him walk free? Perhaps you may have then stopped a growing bitterness on your soul, but you've just taken most of the meaning out the the death of your child, and given him the green light to perpetrate many more murders. Are you then, in a way, taking part of his evil?
Let's take it a step further. Now where talking of God. Who is not human, so let us not dream of holding him to human standards of morality. We know him to be perfect. We know him to be loving. But he has also revealed to us that he is also just. And that sin against him is cosmic treason.
For God to accept a persons ongoing sin, to accept their rejection of Christ, and still show mercy? That would be taking part in the persons sin. And God cannot do that. He is not sin, he is goodness and completely holy. If he did not punish sin then he would not be loving. Do you see how it all circles around? You cannot have one without the other. If you hang everything on a loving God, which, thank goodness we do! Then you also have to accept that at some point those who reject Christ will answer for that rejection.
We have to do nothing more than read how often Jesus warns of those who will be "set out into that place of darkness", or to read Revelation, to know that coming judgment is very real.

That is why the good news of the gospel is so very, very good! It wouldn't be half so precious if there wasn't very real judgement coming upon people who strive to be their own gods every day! God does love us, and he wants as many spared as can be. He loves enough to send his own son! It's such a beautiful message it's a wonder to me that more don't accept it. But again, that is in God's hands. All we can do is tell. But tell it all. Don't let people think that it's not really such a big deal to put it off or not choose, because a "loving God wouldn't send people to hell". That misconception will send more people there, I fear, than those who just outright reject him.

aspen said:

Sounds like you can’t wait! All the death and torture and annihilation...whoo-hoo!

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if its God's will, then why would you have a distain for it?


Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.


the world isn't on God's side, nor are they on Israel's side. so what do you expect to happen? it seems apparent that most here didn't serve in any military service. in the military you do what you are told or go to jail. as recent as WWII if you didn't go into battle as ordered your sargent would most likely shoot you himself. its not a democracy.


Exo_15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

DPMartin said:

if its God's will, then why would you have a distain for it?

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A better question is - if it goes against God’s character, why would we believe it? The answer to your question is, i know the shepherd.

the world isn't on God's side, nor are they on Israel's side. so what do you expect to happen? it seems apparent that most here didn't serve in any military service. in the military you do what you are told or go to jail. as recent as WWII if you didn't go into battle as ordered your sargent would most likely shoot you himself. its not a democracy.

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Yes. Nuremberg was full of this type of mindset......it didn’t save the Nazis.

The world is the collective false self. It must be conquered by returning to a garden state - a state of vulnerability, which allows us to love and receive love perfectly. Isreal (the law) was fulfilled by Jesus (the law in motion) - the country named Israel is a nation among nations - as much apart of the world as any other.

Exo_15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

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So The Lord is a man?

aspen said:

A better question is - if it goes against God’s character, why would we believe it? The answer to your question is, i know the shepherd.

So The Lord is a man?

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Jesus did call Himself the "Son of man" several times didn't He? it seem you may know a shepherd, but it doesn't seem to be the One spoken of in the Bible since you disagree with the Bible anytime it doesn't show a god you thing a god ought to be.

again your shepherd your god you speak of never seems to agree with the Lord God of Israel's, character does it aspen? your god and shepherd and the One in the bible can't be the same, and they aren't the same are they aspen?

DPMartin said:

Jesus did call Himself the "Son of man" several times didn't He? it seem you may know a shepherd, but it doesn't seem to be the One spoken of in the Bible since you disagree with the Bible anytime it doesn't show a god you thing a god ought to be.

again your shepherd your god you speak of never seems to agree with the Lord God of Israel's, character does it aspen? your god and shepherd and the One in the bible can't be the same, and they aren't the same are they aspen?

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Correct. My image of God does not match your image of God; whose character appears schizophrenic. Your image of God is full of contradictions - the bad parent, the loving father, the parent who commits infanticide; opposes divorce until He wants to divorce Israel; recruits Abram and then, moves to murder him for not following a rule he had not told him about; creator of imperfect humanity, who he blames for being imperfect. Ya - no thanks to your God who fails to live up to the morality of Fallen humanity. Indeed your god is a naked emporor and seems to have your fidelty.

The Bible is true from humanities’ perspective.

DPMartin said:

if its God's will, then why would you have a distain for it?


Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.


the world isn't on God's side, nor are they on Israel's side. so what do you expect to happen? it seems apparent that most here didn't serve in any military service. in the military you do what you are told or go to jail. as recent as WWII if you didn't go into battle as ordered your sargent would most likely shoot you himself. its not a democracy.


Exo_15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

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Hello DPMartin:
I have seen these types of arguments over the years. Revelation is an expansion of Matthew 24 only is in more detail. It is about the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. I know you won’t believe it because you (and most) have been taught wrong and they will look at me as being crazy. Ha

If you get a chance, read the book “The Avenging of the Apostles and Prophets” by Arthur Ogden. It is a pretty easy book to read. Revelation is about destruction of a city (Jerusalem) “where our Lord was crucified.” (Rev 11.8) If you read this book I am willing to bet you will agree with it. (And me).

By the way, I spent 6 years with the Naval Security Group as a Navy spy (I was in Africa, Germany and all over the Mediterranean Sea) and also spent 4 years with the USMC as a “recon Marine.”

May the Lord be with you and bless you,

Charles Jemeyson
[email protected]

GISMYS_7 said:

Jesus named the signs to look for just before His return and we see all of them today!

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Your avatar is wonderful. "Mr. Cardinals" are one of my favorites.

But back to the important thread content. Luke 21:36 came to mind: (KJV) Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

APAK said:

Yes, I’ve noticed time is shifting into 3rd gear these days. Have you felt it? Before you know it will be Tuesday again, of for those ‘down there,’ Wednesday again. My mind is recently aware of this time shift and trying to adjust to new time acceleration norm….maybe we are getting too close the time axis asymptote when Christ shall return…is time becoming meaningless soon..

Now Helen, the question is, what I’ve just said, is it a bunch of ‘male cow’ or not?

Bless you,

APAK

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I have noticed this...yes, experiencing this Divine Phenomenon, in my spirit, but in the physical realm mostly...hard to describe, exactly...but quite a happenstance! What times we are in!!!

TammyinWI said:

I have noticed this...yes, experiencing this Divine Phenomenon, in my spirit, but in the physical realm mostly...hard to describe, exactly...but quite a happenstance! What times we are in!!!

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TammyimWI:

Yes, I've really become more aware or conscious of this unknown phenomenon more recently. I know that in the future, a part of heaven (Kingdom) from at least the 4th dimension where time is multi-dimensional or meaningless, will collide with our 3D-T continuum. When it begins, it will progressively cause increasing oscillations in this world, from an astro-physics perspective. It will cause the universe and earth to literally shake and oscillate.

Yes, what times are we in, indeed.

Hello and welcome to the site..

APAK

Thank you, APAK. It is very nice to be here.

God is in control, and can arrange anything He wants. Judgment is coming down! People are not turning from their wicked ways, in fact, it is getting worse in that department. I have been in prayer more and more, and it is time to do a fasting and prayer session, I believe...in fact, overdue.

The enemy really tries to get at me when I try fast/pray...the depression can be really bad, but I work to prevail.

This a general mood to join 'feeling good' or 'doing good' clubs or groups of secular and even religion origin. It deadens or numbs the mind to block out God's calling and desires for people. I noticed this sudden change for a couple of decades now. There are less people 'wanting' to be an individual and speak their own minds on any topic. THey have become sheep, not for God but fort themselves and the world's needs.

They seem feel coerced to be a group-thinker not wanting to offend or be targeted as an outsider. Many social technologies, and the public media and education system has contributed greatly to this general mood in society; mores have changed for the worst.

Prayer is a powerful spiritual tool given to God's people to reveal our heart's desires from our spiritual will, as we cry out to him. I know you will prevail in you mission.

Bless you,

APAK

GISMYS_7 said:

Greatest War the World has ever Seen coming very Soon!
03-26-18, 09:44 PM
Greatest War the World has ever Seen coming very Soon! Revelation 9:13-16 Then the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,

14 one saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.”

15 And the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released so that they would kill a third of mankind.

16 The number of the armies of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them.

Just after the rapture Iran, Syria, Turkey backed by Russia will attack tiny Israel and God will defend Israel and defeat their enemies but 1/3 of all mankind= 2 1/2 billion will die in that war.

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The pre-trib rapture doctrine of men you're on tries to move the event of Jesus' coming and gathering of His Church back to prior to the tribulation Jesus warned of. That's why you also have the above Revelation 9 event timing wrong in your understanding.

The last 3 trumpet periods are in order, with Jesus taking reign over the nations at the sounding of the 7th trumpet:

Rev 11:14-15
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever.
KJV

Revelation 11:1-13 are still 6th Trumpet - 2nd WOE tribulation timing, so how can the battle of Armageddon happen before the final WOE on the 7th trumpet?

The "two hundred thousand thousand" locust army of Rev.9 is TRIBULATION TIMING, not ARMAGEDDON TIMING.

And per our Lord Jesus and Apostle Paul, the tribulation time is to be a time of world peace to the wicked and deceived, which is why Jesus warned that we shall hear of wars and rumors of wars, but don't be troubled, for THE END IS NOT YET. The opposite time of wars and rumors of wars is a time of peace. That's why Paul said when the deceived begin to say, "Peace and safety", that's when the "sudden destruction" will come upon them with the "day of the Lord". So the battle of Armageddon DOES NOT HAPPEN DURING THE TRIBULATION. It happens at the END of the tribulation.

IF... there is a WWIII, it MUST occur PRIOR... to the time of great tribulation upon the saints. The tribulation timing is when Satan's host will fully control all nations on earth under their "one world government" system, what some have called a "new world order". That is when another temple will be built in Jerusalem by the Jews, and old covenant sacrifices started up again, with the league made with the "vile person" of Dan.11 who will after 3.5 years end that agreement, and instead place the "abomination of desolation" idol in the temple and demand to be worshipped in place of God.

charlesj said:

Hello DPMartin:
I have seen these types of arguments over the years. Revelation is an expansion of Matthew 24 only is in more detail. It is about the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. I know you won’t believe it because you (and most) have been taught wrong and they will look at me as being crazy. Ha

If you get a chance, read the book “The Avenging of the Apostles and Prophets” by Arthur Ogden. It is a pretty easy book to read. Revelation is about destruction of a city (Jerusalem) “where our Lord was crucified.” (Rev 11.8) If you read this book I am willing to bet you will agree with it. (And me).

By the way, I spent 6 years with the Naval Security Group as a Navy spy (I was in Africa, Germany and all over the Mediterranean Sea) and also spent 4 years with the USMC as a “recon Marine.”

May the Lord be with you and bless you,

Charles Jemeyson
[email protected]

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It's true that Revelation is an expansion of Jesus' Olivet Discourse of Matt.24 and Mark 13, however, it's not about the destruction of 70 A.D. Jerusalem.

Jesus gave 7 main signs of the end of this world in Matt.24, the very last sign He gave there was that of His second coming and gathering of the His saints (His Church). And He also showed that the final generation of this world would see 'all these things', meaning all those 7 signs. Those 7 signs are the signs in the Seals of Rev.6.

There is going to be another temple built by the Jews in Jerusalem in our near future to fulfill Bible prophecy for the end of this world. That is what Rev.11:1-2 is about (with Dan.11 concerning the "vile person", and Matt.24:23-26 with the pseudo-Christ). When Jesus said not one stone will be standing on top of another there upon the Temple Mount, it is actually about His destruction of this next temple on the day of His coming in our near future. Even the huge stones of the 'Wailing Wall' that stand there today will no longer be standing on that day of His return. Is this actually written? Yes...

Rev 11:13
13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
KJV

Zech 14:4-5
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
KJV

Ezek 38:19-20
19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;

20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.
KJV

What do you think about this, folks?

Should I put this on its separate thread? This just came in one of my email newsletters:

April 5, 2018
“Trump is destined to rebuild the temple”

WASHINGTON – Donald Trump might not be the most popular person inside the beltway, in California, on U.S. college campuses or in the American media, but his support is growing in Israel, with one prominent rabbi saying he believes the president is destined to rebuild the Jerusalem Temple before the coming of the Messiah.Rabbi Yosef Berger, the son of a widely revered Hasidic leader in charge of King David’s Tomb on Mount Zion, told Breaking Israel News Trump will play this “final historic reparation for his entire nation.”“No leader in history has recognized Jerusalem as the capital of the Jews and Israel,” Berger said. “[Trump] has already created a great tikkun (reparation) for the Christians through his unprecedented relationship with Jerusalem. Trump is the representative of Edom that will perform that final historic reparation for his entire nation by building the Temple.

Edom is an ancient adversary of Israel, founded by Esau, the twin brother of Jacob, whose name was later changed to Israel, according to Genesis. As the slightly older brother of Jacob, Esau famously rejected his birthright for a mess of pottage or stew when he was famished after a hunting excursion. Some ancient rabbis saw Edom as a spiritual progenitor of Christians.Meanwhile, Trump mania runs strong throughout Israel, according to public polls.

Source: Famous rabbi sees Trump rebuilding Temple

Tags: Donald Trump, Middle East, The Third Temple

https://www.endtime.com/prophecy-ne...-47803201&mc_cid=583ffe2c4e&mc_eid=eecf3cfa77

TammyinWI said:

What do you think about this, folks?

Should I put this on its separate thread? This just came in one of my email newsletters:

April 5, 2018
“Trump is destined to rebuild the temple”

WASHINGTON – Donald Trump might not be the most popular person inside the beltway, in California, on U.S. college campuses or in the American media, but his support is growing in Israel, with one prominent rabbi saying he believes the president is destined to rebuild the Jerusalem Temple before the coming of the Messiah.Rabbi Yosef Berger, the son of a widely revered Hasidic leader in charge of King David’s Tomb on Mount Zion, told Breaking Israel News Trump will play this “final historic reparation for his entire nation.”“No leader in history has recognized Jerusalem as the capital of the Jews and Israel,” Berger said. “[Trump] has already created a great tikkun (reparation) for the Christians through his unprecedented relationship with Jerusalem. Trump is the representative of Edom that will perform that final historic reparation for his entire nation by building the Temple.

Edom is an ancient adversary of Israel, founded by Esau, the twin brother of Jacob, whose name was later changed to Israel, according to Genesis. As the slightly older brother of Jacob, Esau famously rejected his birthright for a mess of pottage or stew when he was famished after a hunting excursion. Some ancient rabbis saw Edom as a spiritual progenitor of Christians.Meanwhile, Trump mania runs strong throughout Israel, according to public polls.

Source: Famous rabbi sees Trump rebuilding Temple

Tags: Donald Trump, Middle East, The Third Temple

"Trump is destined to rebuild the temple" - Endtime Ministries | End of the Age | Irvin Baxter

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Even if this is remotely accurate it is an example of ends justifying the means....God is not immoral