Well, whats wrong with my mind being made up on something that is plainly stated?? When the Bible says that there are three that bear record in heaven as Father, Word and Holy Spirit, I have no reason to believe otherwise. One cannot exist without the other just like the body of the earthly cannot exist without the blood, water and spirit. Jesus as the word is the very essence of God and always has been.
Dcopymope: I just want to inform you that the verses you are using to support your causes are a forgery, in part.
There is a critical problem in at least 35 percent of English translations of verse 1 John 5:7 and the first part of verse 8.
Here’s the KJV
(1Jn 5:6) This is he that came by water and blood,
even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
(1Jn 5:7) For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
(1Jn 5:8) And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. (ALL KJV)
Now verse 7 and the first part of verse 8, highlighted in red, was altered by the KJV translators of 1611. Others, including the Catholic Douay-Rheims translators quickly followed suit and changed these verses to the same.
Even the ORIGINAL Vulgate translation never had the English translated words of " For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth," It was added and therefore these verses are a forgery!
Many scholars agree that after the Erasmus’ Greek NT was published in 1516 this gross error crept in. Many say that the 3rd edition of Erasmus’ Greek NT of 1522 is when this insertion was originally made because of pressure from the Catholic Church.
The KJV should correctly read:
(1Jn 5:6) This is he that came by water and blood,
even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
(1Jn 5:8) the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. (ALL KJV)
Now this is what most English translations read…with some variations
(1Jn 5:6) This is he who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ; not by the water only but by the water and the blood. And the Spirit is the one who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.
(1Jn 5:7) For there are three that testify:
(1Jn 5:8) the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three agree. (ALL ESV)
So, I would advise you not to use the KJV verse 7 and part of verse 8 to support ‘the word’ = Jesus. It is just not there.
Bless you,
APAK